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#1 Hamhuis2

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 01:00 AM

To VAN: Braden Schenn

To PHI: Chris Tanev+1st

Why VAN does this: Schenn is a very talented two-way player who will only continue to improve. He can slot in this year as 3rd line center, play PP time, and fill in the top-6 if we have injuries. He is also young and *gritty* (your call on that one).

Why PHI does this: They have many injuries on the back end with little/no fill in players or prospects coming in. Tanev slots in nicely in their backend and he can learn from some of the more veteran guys such as Pronger and Timonen. They also get a 1st round pick (albeit probably bottom 5) in a very deep, talented draft.

Overall:

I think Philly wouldn't do this trade due to the fact that they just acquired Luke Schenn. Sean Couturier would cost slightly more than this but would be a player I would love to have, however he is more untouchable than Schenn. Read is another guy to target if Schenn is unavailable, though he does not play center normally. I also think the Canucks underpay a bit in this deal. Perhaps add a weaker forward prospect (i.e. Labate)?

What do the wonderful folk of CDC have to say about this deal? Pull the trigger? How *realistic* (very loose term) is this?
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 08:53 AM

I think it's pretty reasonable considering no massive contracts are going either way (i.e Ballard) Tanev is a reliable defender who could potentially be on a shut-down pairing with Schenn, to help keep the puck out of Bryzgalov's net.

Only question I have is if that pick is in 2013, or 2014. I'd much rather have it in 2014 because of how deep this year's draft is.If it is in 2014, then I like this trade.

We need offence, and Philadelphia needs defence. It's a win-win!!
Oh, and both teams have enough prospects that could "theoretically" fill the void of these players. Philadelphia has Cousins, and Laughton. While Vancouver has Connauton, and Sauve.
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 09:42 AM

Only on CDC can u see spare parts get traded for future superstars. Where a non drafted 5th or 6th dman is worth a future first liner who was also the main guy coming back in a trade for their former captain. Philly is set to contend now, that late first rounder isn't gonna help them for until 2015 at the earliest. Yah, great trade. Can't see Holmgren not pulling the trigger on this one
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 10:29 AM

I think it's pretty reasonable considering no massive contracts are going either way (i.e Ballard) Tanev is a reliable defender who could potentially be on a shut-down pairing with Schenn, to help keep the puck out of Bryzgalov's net.

Only question I have is if that pick is in 2013, or 2014. I'd much rather have it in 2014 because of how deep this year's draft is.If it is in 2014, then I like this trade.

We need offence, and Philadelphia needs defence. It's a win-win!!
Oh, and both teams have enough prospects that could "theoretically" fill the void of these players. Philadelphia has Cousins, and Laughton. While Vancouver has Connauton, and Sauve.



Not sure if Philly would do this in a more shallow draft. To Trade Schenn it would have to be this years pick, which shouldn't be a problem regarding a player like Schenn.


Only on CDC can u see spare parts get traded for future superstars. Where a non drafted 5th or 6th dman is worth a future first liner who was also the main guy coming back in a trade for their former captain. Philly is set to contend now, that late first rounder isn't gonna help them for until 2015 at the earliest. Yah, great trade. Can't see Holmgren not pulling the trigger on this one


Wouldn't call Tanev a spare part. He's young and has upside. Probably won't be a star, but he's no throw in. He's a bottom pairing defenseman now, but should grow into a top 4 easily. Plus a deep draft 1st would help.



I think the deal is close, but at the end of the day, I don't think Philly pulls the trigger on this one. If they wanted to move Schenn for a young defenseman, I'm sure they would find better offers out there.

Edited by Sweatt_GLaNDs, 09 November 2012 - 10:30 AM.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 12:31 PM

They won't do it, As Sweatt_GLaNDs just said.

If they wanted to get a young defender in return for Schenn they would get better offers.
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 01:25 PM

Not a chance they do that.
To get Schenn you'd be looking at us having to move someone like Edler.

Edited by Jägermeister, 09 November 2012 - 01:26 PM.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 01:47 PM

They wouldn't even trade Schenn for weber..
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 02:14 PM

They wouldn't even trade Schenn for weber..


I never heard that was an offer.

Anyways, if you were Philly, and thought you could get Weber via offersheet and without giving up Schenn, why even put that on the table.
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 02:19 PM

They just brought in Luke Schenn so that the brothers would be together. I doubt they'd want to move him. Regardless of the offer.
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 07:12 PM

How is Chris Tanev a spare part???

It's a pretty even trade but we would have to throw in some extra things.
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 09:54 PM

How is Chris Tanev a spare part???

It's a pretty even trade but we would have to throw in some extra things.


He is when you're trying to trade him for someone like Brayden Schenn. Like someone else said, Philly would want back an important piece like a Edler + Tanev for Schenn and whoever thus making him a "spare"
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