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#1 James van Riemsdyk

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 09:31 PM

This is time I've made a proposal, I'm just thinking that this might be a good idea since we're lacking center depth and Columbus's defense is quite thin. This trade can meet both our needs. I know most of you are already rolling your eyes at another "ballard" trade, but please look at it this way.


To VAN: Artem Anisimov

To CBJ: Ballard

Ballard isn't getting much ice time with the Canucks he is a true top 4 defense man and he can shine in Columbus.

We need center depth with Kesler out with injury we can play Anisimov and when kesler does come back he can play on the third line. We are lacking size and this guy is 6''4 at 210 pounds that's quite a big guy for someone only 24.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 09:32 PM

Columbus isn't going to trade for defensemen, considering theirs is actually not bad.
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Posted 10 November 2012 - 09:37 PM

Columbus doesn't need defense.
Columbus needs to gain youth, not give it away.
Columbus just acquired Anisimov.
Anisimov has more trade value than Ballard.

This is why we can't have nice things.
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Posted 10 November 2012 - 10:42 PM

Columbus doesn't need defense, what they need are top six forwards...and goaltending.
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Posted 10 November 2012 - 11:42 PM

This is time I've made a proposal, I'm just thinking that this might be a good idea since we're lacking center depth and Columbus's defense is quite thin. This trade can meet both our needs. I know most of you are already rolling your eyes at another "ballard" trade, but please look at it this way.


To VAN: Artem Anisimov

To CBJ: Ballard

Ballard isn't getting much ice time with the Canucks he is a true top 4 defense man and he can shine in Columbus.

We need center depth with Kesler out with injury we can play Anisimov and when kesler does come back he can play on the third line. We are lacking size and this guy is 6''4 at 210 pounds that's quite a big guy for someone only 24.

Thanks for taking your time to read this.


Ballard is so damn bad, he's not even a top 4 in Columbus. Tell me, of these 4, which one is he better than?
Nikita Nikitin
James Wisniewski
Jack Johnson
Fedor Tyutin
Plus they also have Adrian Aucoin or even Ryan Murray. Yah, the CBJ don't need more defence.

Yah, none of them.
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Posted 10 November 2012 - 11:46 PM

Ballard is so damn bad, he's not even a top 4 in Columbus. Tell me, of these 4, which one is he better than?
Nikita Nikitin
James Wisniewski
Jack Johnson
Fedor Tyutin
Plus they also have Adrian Aucoin or even Ryan Murray. Yah, the CBJ don't need more defence.

Yah, none of them.

LOL. You think Nikita Nikitin is better than Ballard? Ballard was arguably our best D man in the playoffs and is a very good bottom pair D man. And he CAN play top 4 minutes if there are any injuries.
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Posted 10 November 2012 - 11:51 PM

LOL. You think Nikita Nikitin is better than Ballard? Ballard was arguably our best D man in the playoffs and is a very good bottom pair D man. And he CAN play top 4 minutes if there are any injuries.


Absolutely.
Nikitin 7 goals, 25 assists 32 points, only finished a -5 on a very bad CBJ team and also blocks more shots than your star Ballard and only made 600k last year
Ballard 1 goal, 6 assists 7 points and made 4.2 mil!
I know who I'll pick!

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 11:53 PM

Nikitin is very underrated.
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Posted 10 November 2012 - 11:58 PM

Absolutely.
Nikitin 7 goals, 25 assists 32 points, only finished a -5 on a very bad CBJ team and also blocks more shots than your star Ballard and only made 600k last year
Ballard 1 goal, 6 assists 7 points and made 4.2 mil!
I know who I'll pick!

I'd take Ballard any day. Again Ballard would be a very good top 4 D man here had he been given the chance. And he would more than likely be a top 4 in Columbus. Nikitin would barely see bottom pair time here.
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 12:02 AM

I am a Ballard fan boy but trying to be as non-biased as I can here. I would take Ballard over Nikitin too.

Nikitin is better than giving credit for, but I still think Ballard brings more to the table and his skills would be used better in Columbus than here.
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:25 AM

I don't see why all of you are jumping the gun so quickly, Ballard gets almost no ice time here and he is 6 or 7th on our defensive depth while before he got here he put up around 30points. Murray is still a rookie( knock on wood) but how do you know he won't get a career ending injury or if he's a draft bust? Aucoin is 39 he's going to retire soon.
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 03:05 AM

I don't see why all of you are jumping the gun so quickly, Ballard gets almost no ice time here and he is 6 or 7th on our defensive depth while before he got here he put up around 30points. Murray is still a rookie( knock on wood) but how do you know he won't get a career ending injury or if he's a draft bust? Aucoin is 39 he's going to retire soon.


Because that's what other GMs go by. Why not trade for Scott Gomez and Wade Redden? Both of them were great players and put up a lot of points before they got traded. Would you offer up anything of value for those 2? How is Ballard any different? While we're at it, why not give Cheechoo a tryout? He scored 56 goals however many years ago.
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 03:12 AM

Because that's what other GMs go by. Why not trade for Scott Gomez and Wade Redden? Both of them were great players and put up a lot of points before they got traded. Would you offer up anything of value for those 2? How is Ballard any different? While we're at it, why not give Cheechoo a tryout? He scored 56 goals however many years ago.

Im sure anyone could score 56 goals while playing with Joe Thornton in his prime.

And you're still ignoring the fact that Ballard barely gets playing time in Vancouver.
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 03:26 AM

Im sure anyone could score 56 goals while playing with Joe Thornton in his prime.

And you're still ignoring the fact that Ballard barely gets playing time in Vancouver.


And who's fault is that? It's Ballards! I'll trust the one time Coach of the Year, the winningist head coach in Canucks history, the coach that led to this team to back to back Presidents Trophy and one win from winning it all over Keith Ballard anyday! If Coach V is wrong, then so be it. Ok, answer me this, who would you rank Ballard ahead of? Hamhuis? Bieksa? Salo? Edler? Ehrhoff? And now with Garrison How can the coach give him more playing time when he's clearly not as good as those guys?
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 09:02 AM

And who's fault is that? It's Ballards! I'll trust the one time Coach of the Year, the winningist head coach in Canucks history, the coach that led to this team to back to back Presidents Trophy and one win from winning it all over Keith Ballard anyday! If Coach V is wrong, then so be it. Ok, answer me this, who would you rank Ballard ahead of? Hamhuis? Bieksa? Salo? Edler? Ehrhoff? And now with Garrison How can the coach give him more playing time when he's clearly not as good as those guys?



I already stated that a while back that Ballard is low on our defensive depth, you don't know if he is not as good as any of those people because he hasn't been given any time to shine. Has he gotten any time on the 1st or 2nd pairing with edler, hamhuis, bieska, erhoff? He's been usually paired with Rome, or Tanev. Coach AV doesn't give him time because he's not good, he gives him less time because he just likes him less than the others, take Rome for example.
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 11:28 AM

i agree with coach V's playing rome over ballard in many games....rome gave the team steady, safe defensive play. ballard, while more talented, made poor decisions, that left him out of position. in coach V's system, if you don't play the game he wants you to play, you don't play. he said he liked ballard's game while playing with tanev...that's because tanev could play defensively so well.
ballard is a player we all wanted, and still do, to play top 4 minutes...he won't get that because some fans believe he deserves it..he has to prove himself on the ice. ballard can't play effectively on the right side, nor can edler. that means he has to beat out edler or hamhuis for that job...i love his speed and sometimes i think they should convert him to left wing. hopefully he makes believers of all of us this year.
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:44 AM

Jack Johnson and Ryan Murray say hi
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 08:34 PM

CBJ laughs at this
Anisimov is 24.. Ballard is 30
ENOUGH SAID
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