canuktravella Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 leafs trade van riemsdyk rielly for raymond luongo 2nd rounder edler booth 1st rounder for perry sign arnott to 2 yr deal 2.1 mill per sedin sedin perry van riemsdyk kesler burrows kassian laps higgins hansen manny arnott/mallet hamhuis bieska garrison ballard rielly sauve connauton corrado tanev alberts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksFanMike Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 1st deal.... no way in hell burkie does that 2nd deal..... seems fair but I wouldn't do it as it takes too much out of our team If we sign Arnott at 2.1 M per he isn't going to be playing wing on our 4th line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87Crosby Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 5th Overall pick and great prospect for a unwanted goalie and forward!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 leafs trade van riemsdyk rielly for raymond luongo 2nd rounder edler booth 1st rounder for perry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grape Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 5th Overall pick and great prospect for a unwanted goalie and forward!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks1 Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 That Toronto deal is TERRIBLE for Toronto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 That deal makes no sense for Toronto. Would never happen. Anaheim deal is good value wise, but our lineup is stronger with Booth and Edler than it is with just Perry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 5th Overall pick and great prospect for a unwanted goalie and forward!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 1. Burke says No 2. No thanks, look at the Defense core, Sauve and Rielly as the bottom pair? I would rather hold onto Edler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00bxQb Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 So, basically, our team gets substantially worse ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TmanVan Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Anaheim deal is good value wise, but our lineup is stronger with Booth and Edler than it is with just Perry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorFutureGM Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 You're proposing other teams trading their best assets for the Canucks' garbage. Both trades are not even close. If Anaheim trades Perry, they're going to rebuild. They don't want players in their late 20s underacheiving or pending UFAs. Toronto isn't going to trade their best young players for Luongo, no one else will either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Toronto isn't going to trade their best young players for Luongo, no one else will either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorFutureGM Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 A pet peeve of mine are posts like these. Like, give an example as to why Toronto wouldn't trade one of their best prospects for Luongo instead of just flat out saying they won't. If trading one of your best young players means you can improve substantially in another position, without giving up a top six forward or top 4 D man, why not go for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Luongo doesn't have that value. You're going to say something like he will make them a playoff team, improve them immensely, .... I'm going to say it's his contract and the fact he hasn't proven to be a difference maker goaltender You're going to come with these stretches he played great in Vancouver and he has a great cap hit I'm going to say he choked and it's the term You're going to say the team choked and he'll retire before then I'm going to say he didn't steal a series when the Canucks needed it and you don't know when he'll retire The point of the matter is if those are the pieces that you think the Leafs would trade for Luongo, they could get a better goaltender than that and or a #1 centre with those assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00bxQb Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 The last time a high-calibre goaltender was traded was Halak and he went for a top prospect (Eller) and a mediocre prospect (Schultz). I don't think anyone's going to argue that Halak is better than Luongo, although he does have a more manageable contract. Toronto can keep missing the playoffs for all I care. Luongo isn't far removed from being a Vezina finalist and a Stanley Cup appearance. Of course, only on this forum is potential skill > actual skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorFutureGM Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Luongo absolutely has that value, you just can't see it because you have the Lu hater blinders on. Luongo could very easily make the Leafs a playoff team, not much one could argue on that statement. Time and time again people have told you and King Luongo's contract isn't even that bad, and with the new CBA it will be even better. And there aren't many goalies (if any) currently on the market that are better than Luongo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TmanVan Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Just because you can get 1000 people from this board to say that Luongo is as valuble as Stamkos doesn't mean it's right. If anything, whatever the majority believes on this board when it comes to trade means it is not likely true. I will bet you a sig bet for a year that Vancouver doesn't get any one of Rielly, Gardiner or Van Riemsdyk FOR Luongo if traded to Toronto. Put your money where your mouth is kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drybone Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Unless the new CBA (if there is one anytime soon) puts the cap up to 70mil , the canucks are over the cap and Roberto Luongo becomes virtually worthless in trade value. We would have to put him on waivers because the only teams that have the cap room to take him are bottom feeders he would never agree to go to in the first place. The owners demand of a roll back makes Luongo an albatross around our neck with nowhere to go. I have no idea what Gillis is going to do but certainly in hindsight the Luongo signing is the second worst in canucks history behind the Messier signing. None of this means Lui aint a good goalie. He is . But his contract has crushed his value. Gillis should have taken what he could get if there were actual offers on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Luongo doesn't have that value. You're going to say something like he will make them a playoff team, improve them immensely, .... I'm going to say it's his contract and the fact he hasn't proven to be a difference maker goaltender You're going to come with these stretches he played great in Vancouver and he has a great cap hit I'm going to say he choked and it's the term You're going to say the team choked and he'll retire before then I'm going to say he didn't steal a series when the Canucks needed it and you don't know when he'll retire The point of the matter is if those are the pieces that you think the Leafs would trade for Luongo, they could get a better goaltender than that and or a #1 centre with those assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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