Pouria Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 A company can charge a lot more, not less, for a cure than a treatment that may or may not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouria Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 Hey Pouria, Maybe you should not post this crap here. If you want to spend your money on snake oil go ahead but leave the rest of us out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouria Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 I hope so, one of my sisters (who just died yesterday as a result of organ failure after voluntarily ceasing her medications for months) grew up fighting leukemia, after 15 years, a few relapses, and several bone marrow transplants plus extensive chemotherapies finally beat it, but thanks to treatments had two other cancers develop which she also had to beat. I really hope for a breakthrough on chemo in these regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevlach Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Well when you already have cancer...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie.the.Unicorn Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 The bad thing about chemo is not only it could cause other types of cancers but it can be harmful to doctors, nurses, pharmacists and pharmacy techs who dispense or administer the drug. Too bad most people here are ignorant of some of the chemicals that are in chemo drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouria Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 I am pretty sure most people know that chemotherapy contains harmful drugs. Anything that makes you puke your guts out and lose hair doesn't sound appealing to most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMonk Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 A company can profit more by charging multiple times to treat a disease vs. a one time payment for a cure. What are they going to charge for the cure? $10 million dollars?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouria Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 If a course of a chemotherapy costs $10,000 and have a success rate of (say) 50%, would you not pay at least that for a treatment that has 100% success rate? What alternatives do you propose? Currently you either undergo surgery, radiation or chemotherapy. Usually you need a combination to maximize the chance of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMonk Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Well, like some other posters said, there could be other alternatives to chemo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offensive Threat Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Forget about the article, am just wondering why we are still using chemotherapy to treat cancers when there should be other alternatives for treating it. Chemo doesn't work all the time and it could cause secondary and tertiary cancers but unfortunately it is the only option being pushed by big pharma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj_coolcat Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I hope so, one of my sisters (who just died yesterday as a result of organ failure after voluntarily ceasing her medications for months) grew up fighting leukemia, after 15 years, a few relapses, and several bone marrow transplants plus extensive chemotherapies finally beat it, but thanks to treatments had two other cancers develop which she also had to beat. I really hope for a breakthrough on chemo in these regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryten Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 This topic is near and dear to me. Sorry Pouria but you are incorrect (as is that BS article) about chemotherapy harming health care workers to the extent portrayed. I was a hospital pharm tech for 5 years and often prepared chemo IV admixtures. The process was always arduous and intensive and we always took extreme care when handling dangerous chemicals. Only experienced techs with specific training with these chemicals with the required radiopharmaceutical IV hoods (www.germfree.com has some fine examples) were allowed to produce chemo admixtures. Whoever wrote that article did zero research. Homeopathic and Naturopathic providers are vultures of people in need. They are as corrupt as big pharma. Where I do agree with you Pouria, is on the topic of big pharma. I have had many negative dealings with pharmaceutical companies as a tech. They are big, bad and beyond reproach. They do not care AT ALL about the health or well-being of their customers, just the profit margin. Problem is there isn't anything anyone can do about it. Pharmacists and doctors have been blowing the whistle for decades but like the banks, they are too big to fail. For example, American companies get paid by the Canadian government for pharmaceutical R&D and then take the patent to America or the UK to brand the product and keep it from the generic manufacturers in exchange for kickbacks to certain government agencies and individuals that are supposed to regulate this industry. As long as these companies own our government and have the FDA in their pocket (which they do, just read the FDA's reports on Canadian online pharmacies which were supposedly denting their profit margin), they will never stop killing for profit. They make me sick. Yet despite all of that, there are some good people on the frontlines that produce and administer amazing medications for people that need it. The pricing of meds is corrupt but the production of the meds is not. They are necessary and they save lives but it's bittersweet. Too many people die because they cannot afford to buy a med that could save their life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthNinja Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Pouria, you should have just posted the article from MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38114586/ns/health-cancer/t/lifesaving-cancer-drugs-may-put-workers-lives-risk/#.UKMxI8WHI9U Or the Seattle Times article: http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2012327665_chemo11.html?syndication=rss Or Investigate West: http://www.invw.org/chemo-workers Or PBS: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/health/july-dec10/chemo_08-05.html Or the Oregonian article: http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2010/07/health_workers_who_worked_with.html Or the Union-Bulletin: http://union-bulletin.com/news/2010/jul/15/in-painful-irony-lifesaving-chemo-poses-threat-too/ Or Health Care Professional Live: http://www.hcplive.com/blogs/Nurses_Blogs/2910/hazardous_drug_exposure etc., perhaps once the minds of the people would register 'mainstream media', they would, in their ignorance, instead swallow wholesale what you are presenting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 There are teams of scientists around the world researching alternative cancers treatments 24/7. Chemo is the best/most proven treatment we currently have available. If something better comes along and gets approved, it will become the new "standard". I had hodgkins lymphoma about 4 years ago (in remission) and I too can say that I likely would not be here if not for the toxic stew I had pumped through me every couple weeks for months. It certainly sucks at the time and I'm still dealing with worsened circulation to my extremities (nothing serious, my hands and feet just get cold easy now) from ahving poison pumped through my veins but it sure beats the alternative!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 nothing is harm free radiation therapy is commonly used to treat some type of cancers. but they also increase the risk of developing other cancers later on, should you survive long enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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