Israel takes out top Hamas commander after missiles launched from Gaza

[Edler0023]

No: Israel has the most technically advanced and efficient military in the world. Believe it or not the fact that only 100 Palestinians have been killed so far this week is a sign of severely limited engagement. Keep in mind Gaza is a tiny strip of land with 1.7 million people in it...

[Tearloch7]

If you heard that then chances are Hamas did too. The perfect place to store weapons. When you can guarantee 100% those sites are clear of any terror weapons such as unguided missiles let me know. Until then too bad Hamas will use any place they can to hide their munitions safely. This is war not a picnic. Innocent people including journalists could become casualties. Perhaps they should avoid the area or ask Hamas to stop launching their indiscriminate rockets. I'm sure Hamas will be all ears(cut off their ears).

[Tearloch7]

Since "might seems to mean right" to so damn many people here, if all the Arab nations rose up and wiped Israel off the face of the earth before the US could intervene, then that would be alright, no? .. just according to your "logic"

[Lancaster]

I am saying that the rest of the world thinks that how the israeli's have treated the palestinians is wrong, and you trying to discredit that is a bunch of crap .

[Special Ed]

Let me throw a senario out there:

Right now you are in a room full of Hamas militants or Israeli soldiers. While both are being bombarded. Then you have to choose one of two options.

1) you are in a room full of Israeli soldiers. You tell them; 'they should leave Israel and hope they are all killed by Hamas militants'.

2) you are in a room full of Hamas Islamic militants. You tell them; 'Palestine should not exist and hope they are all killed by Israeli soldiers'.

Now... Think about these two senarios carefully and honestly tell me you feel more confident in accepting senario #2.

[taxi]

You are eithernot reading , or not comprehending what i have posted on this terrorist action

The Dier Yassin Massacre

Early in the morning of Friday, April 9, 1948, commandos of the Irgun, headed by Menachem Begin, and the Stern Gang attacked Deir Yassin, a village with about 750 Palestinian residents. It was several weeks before the end of the British Mandate. The village lay outside of the area that the United Nations recommended be included in a future Jewish State. Deir Yassin had a peaceful reputation and was even said by a Jewish newspaper to have driven out some Arab militants. But it was located on high ground in the corridor between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem and one plan, kept secret until years afterwards, called for it to be destroyed and the residents evacuated to make way for a small airfield that would supply the beleaguered Jewish residents of Jerusalem.

By noon over 100 people, half of them women and children, had been systematically murdered. Four commandos died at the hands of resisting Palestinians using old Mausers and muskets. Twenty-five male villagers were loaded into trucks, paraded through the Zakhron Yosef quarter in Jerusalem, and then taken to a stone quarry along the road between Givat Shaul and Deir Yassin and shot to death. The remaining residents were driven to Arab East Jerusalem.

That evening the Irgunists and the Sternists escorted a party of foreign correspondents to a house at Givat Shaul, a nearby Jewish settlement founded in 1906. Over tea and cookies they amplified the details of the operation and justified it, saying Deir Yassin had become a concentration point for Arabs, including Syrians and Iraqis, planning to attack the western suburbs of Jerusalem. They said that 25 members of the Haganah militia had reinforced the attack and claimed that an Arabic-speaking Jew had warned the villagers over a loudspeaker from an armored car. This was duly reported in The New York Times on April 10.

A final body count of 254 was reported by The New York Times on April 13, a day after they were finally buried. By then the leaders of the Haganah had distanced themselves from having participated in the attack and issued a statement denouncing the dissidents of Irgun and the Stern Gang, just as they had after the attack on the King David Hotel in July 1946. A 1987 study undertaken by Birzeit University's Center for Research and Documentation of Palestinian Society found "the numbers of those killed does not exceed 120".

The Haganah leaders admitted that the massacre "disgraced the cause of Jewish fighters and dishonored Jewish arms and the Jewish flag." They played down the fact that their militia had reinforced the terrorists' attack, even though they did not participate in the barbarism and looting during the subsequent "mopping up" operations.

They also played down the fact that, in Begin's words, "Deir Yassin was captured with the knowledge of the Haganah and with the approval of its commander" as a part of its "plan for establishing an airfield."

Ben Gurion even sent an apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But this horrific act served the future State of Israel well. According to Begin:

• Arabs throughout the country, induced to believe wild tales of "Irgun butchery," were seized with limitless panic and started to flee for their lives. This mass flight soon developed into a maddened, uncontrollable stampede. The political and economic significance of this development can hardly be overestimated.

Of about 144 houses, 10 were dynamited. The cemetery was later bulldozed and, like hundreds of other Palestinian villages to follow, Deir Yassin was wiped off the map. By September, Orthodox Jewish immigrants from Poland, Rumania, and Slovakia were settled there over the objections of Martin Buber, Cecil Roth and other Jewish leaders, who believed that the site of the massacre should be left uninhabited. The center of the village was renamed Givat Shaul Bet. As Jerusalem expanded, the land of Deir Yassin became part of the city and is now known simply as the area between Givat Shaul and the settlement of Har Nof on the western slopes of the mountain.

The massacre of Palestinians at Deir Yassin is one of the most significant events in 20th-century Palestinian and Israeli history. This is not because of its size or its brutality, but because it stands as the starkest early warning of a calculated depopulation of over 400 Arab villages and cities and the expulsion of over 700,000 Palestinian inhabitants to make room for survivors of the Holocaust and other Jews from the rest of the world

so are you now going to tell me that that jewish newspaper lied ?

And the maasarce of innocent people in their homes is not an act of war , it is an act of TERRORISM

[taxi]

[Tearloch7]

Propaganda is a double edged sword don't you think?? .. as I said, the Jewish people learned a lot from Herr Goebbels ..

[taxi]

Propaganda is a double edged sword don't you think?? .. as I said, the Jewish people learned a lot from Herr Goebbels ..

[Special Ed]

Please stop the comparisons to nazis. They aren't useful in any way. Facts and perspectives you disagree with, are not propaganda. I am, however, going to post this video from a different perspective:

[inane]

Except that I actually have posted previously on topic in this thread.

What Tearloch7 said.........

[Tearloch7]

I will make whatever comparisons I wish to make, Mr. Ed .. discount or ignore them as you will .. glorifying acts of war, and "spinning facts" to discredit those you wish to displace, was perfected in the late 1930's .. those lessons were not lost on the peoples they were perpetrated against .. just as the Palestinian "terrorists" learned from the brave "Jewish Freedom Fighters", who were also called "terrorists" at the time ..

T'is said that one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter .. until the hypocrisy of your collective "spin" is admitted, I and others will speak out in favor of De-escalation of this muddle ..

"When a man has got nothing, he has nothing to lose" .. too many Palestinians have more to die for than to live for .. much like many Jewish people must have felt after a few months in an "internment camp" ..

Such a sad, sad state of affairs .. history and "God" will judge accordingly ..

[taxi]

Any comparisons of Israelis to nazis is a blatant flaw of logic. I wonder what those people would think if the Israelis sent millions of Palestinians to the gas chambers. If the Israelis were treating the Palestinians as the nazis treated jews. Well then that would really be something to complain about. If there were even any Palestinians left.

[Special Ed]

I will make whatever comparisons I wish to make, Mr. Ed .. discount or ignore them as you will .. glorifying acts of war, and "spinning facts" to discredit those you wish to displace, was perfected in the late 1930's .. those lessons were not lost on the peoples they were perpetrated against .. just as the Palestinian "terrorists" learned from the brave "Jewish Freedom Fighters", who were also called "terrorists" at the time ..

T'is said that one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter .. until the hypocrisy of your collective "spin" is admitted, I and others will speak out in favor of De-escalation of this muddle ..

"When a man has got nothing, he has nothing to lose" .. too many Palestinians have more to die for than to live for .. much like many Jewish people must have felt after a few months in an "internment camp" ..

Such a sad, sad state of affairs .. history and "God" will judge accordingly ..

[DonLever]

"Not too surprising given the propaganda given out by Hollywood with the hundeds if not thousands of movies/books/tv shows about the Holocaust. "

Wow, any respect I ever had for you as a poster has completely dissipated. I am at a complete and utter loss of words here for the most part..at least ones that are permissible to be posted here. You actually believe this *%#!....

I'm flabbergasted and that doesn't happen often. Like there's some grand conspiracy in Hollywood, amongst book publishers or television companies to make movies/television programs/publish books....oh, I'm sorry, 'propaganda'.......to make all these programs/books/movies etc about the Holocaust just to shore up support for Israel.

JFC, just when you think you've heard/read the max on CDC ignorance and stupidity.

[Special Ed]

If the Israelis treated the Palestinians like the Nazis treated the Jews, there would be no conflict, because there would be no Palestinians. Instead the Palestinians are one of the fastest growing populations in the world. They also have a higher life expectancy than their arab contemporaries outside of Israel.

[Tearloch7]

People have been displace all over the world and throughout history. Now you want to replace a stable well developed democracy for a group who's leaders can't even control various militias? I haven't even heard one reasonable suggestion of how that could be accomplished. The Israelis are just suppose to 'magically' find a new home so the 'peaceful' Palestinians can live in harmony... And then you woke up.

[Tearloch7]

I wonder if the nazis would varify a hostile target is clear of civilians before firing...

http://www.liveleak....=612_1353364533

[Special Ed]

How effective have they been .. 100 civilians dead? .. maybe the US should ship em some new guidance systems? ..

[taxi]

How effective have they been .. 100 civilians dead? .. maybe the US should ship em some new guidance systems? ..