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#61 theminister

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 07:38 PM

We'll have to return the favour then, in case one of their European neighbours decide to attack them.

Besides, they're currently the big guy's biggest lapdog, though Harper is trying hard to get us that title back away from them.

What again? It's their turn.Lets put it this way, if we piss the Brits off then they certainly won't. It's not the Royals we would need to worry about insulting it's the public and the press.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:04 PM

So no amount of public opinion nor even a referendum will change that?

Has democracy also left the building?

Nope. Constitutions are not ordinary law.

Basic rule of constitutional law... basic institutions are entrenched in our supreme law and require a specific amending formula to be changed. Quite democratic.

All you need is to convince all the provincial legislatures and both Houses of Parliament and it can be changed.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:16 PM

Okay. Done.

Now what?
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:39 PM

Okay. Done.

Now what?

Now you wait...
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:56 PM

A poll by Ipsos-Reid, also in June 2010, found that the majority two-in-three Canadians agree the royal family should not have any formal role in Canadian society, and reported growing sentiment that Elizabeth II should be Canada's last monarch. The majority 58% of Canadians want Canada to end ties to monarchy when Queen Elizabeth II's reign ends, and the majority 62% of Canadians believe that Canada's head of state should be the Governor General, not the Queen.[63][64]


Most polls over the years indicate that the majority of Canadians see the monarchy as obsolete and not needed, and that a referendum on keeping the monarchy around should be held.

But if the question is 'does the monarchy contribute to our national identity?' or 'does the monarchy help seperate our idenity from that of the USA?', then the majority of Canadians agree with that as well.

Nevertheless, Elizabeth II may very well be our last monarch. SEE ya!

While the prestige of the old queen may serve as something worthy of holding on to for the sake of our colonist pride, or our difference from the US, does Prince William? Does Kate Middleton? Not really. So that'll likely be that for the monarchy for us.

However, they're still around. While the royalty is useless, the brits LOVE them. Why? Well, brainwashing, of course. The royalty is like a religion. As long as they have followers, their power remains. This is partly why they have to remain in the tabloids. If apathy towards them there grew, then enough people would eventually come to realize that their royalty should be abolished, just like how the vast majority of the monarchies around the world have already been abolished.


Saudi Arabia would be next on my list. If not for oil wealth and of course a ton help from their american friends, that royalty would've been deposed long ago.


The question is whether or not we'd be better off.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:59 PM

Ironically, it won't happen anytime soon due to Quebec being Quebec.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:35 AM

Probably meant the UK. So when will Scotland be suceeding?


Just as soon as I finish my house alterations...........I hope :).............the referendum is to be held in 2014.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:15 AM

The question is whether or not we'd be better off.


I dont see how we could be better off without them as they do absolutely nothing to harm us. They dont cost us anything. They dont negatively effect us in any way. The only thing that would be accomplished by getting rid of them (which would have to be by magic based on the way they are embedded in the charter) would be to weaken our ties with the rest of the commonwealth countries. Regardless of England being a shadow of its former empire they are still firmly in the trillion dollar GDP club so strong trade ties with them is firmly in our countries best interests.

So yes, we would be worse off without them.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:21 AM

There are plenty of archaic royal families in Europe, seems a bit unfair to single out a particular one.

I hold no grudge against them, theyre fine with me.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:11 AM

We'll have to return the favour then, in case one of their European neighbours decide to attack them.

We already did that. Back in the 40s....some crazy German guy wanted to take over the world.....
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:33 AM

Most polls over the years indicate that the majority of Canadians see the monarchy as obsolete and not needed, and that a referendum on keeping the monarchy around should be held.

But if the question is 'does the monarchy contribute to our national identity?' or 'does the monarchy help seperate our idenity from that of the USA?', then the majority of Canadians agree with that as well.

Nevertheless, Elizabeth II may very well be our last monarch. SEE ya!

While the prestige of the old queen may serve as something worthy of holding on to for the sake of our colonist pride, or our difference from the US, does Prince William? Does Kate Middleton? Not really. So that'll likely be that for the monarchy for us.

However, they're still around. While the royalty is useless, the brits LOVE them. Why? Well, brainwashing, of course. The royalty is like a religion. As long as they have followers, their power remains. This is partly why they have to remain in the tabloids. If apathy towards them there grew, then enough people would eventually come to realize that their royalty should be abolished, just like how the vast majority of the monarchies around the world have already been abolished.


Saudi Arabia would be next on my list. If not for oil wealth and of course a ton help from their american friends, that royalty would've been deposed long ago.


The question is whether or not we'd be better off.


William and Kiki Wigglesworth will at least look good on the money and will do an awesome job of promoting Whister. Really that's all we will really need the for so what's the problem?

Oh, and if you think getting rid of the "monarchy" here (it's really just a pretend one were secretly a parlimentary democray) will stop the tabloids from being all obsessed over those two look no further than south of the border where two centuries ago they booted out the king's reps of the day and yet even THEY still obsess over the royals! Well, that and the Kardashians.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:07 AM

I'd read all this but stopped after the 1st post.

How about people start working hard instead of looking for handouts. The world would not be saved if wealth was distributed evenly. it would prob be worse for everyone. why would anyone invent or create or do anything if you got no reward such as wealth?

Typical liberal thought process wanting everything for nothing. well not nothing you guys want someone else to work hard and then give you their money.

Save Africa? LOL they don't want to save themselves, if you want to save Africa you 1st have to get rid of all the Kings and Warlords that are causing all the strife. It's not the Queen Of England's wealth that will save it.


Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with most of what you said in this post.

Also to the Queen would like to say this to everybody:

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