Lui's Knob Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 <p><p>Upgrade over Rome/Alberts...any SC Rings/experience? If so,may be a decent 1 year pickup - especially since this Joslin guy in the minors is wretched (awful signing)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laxgoalie Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Jeez!.........at last, someone who can handle himself. I wouldn't even mention Joslin and Mullen in the same breath as this guy. Come on get him in the green and blue now. It will give this lock-out disaster a silver lining for Canucks fans. Yeh! I like him. PS Not sure about him being an upgrade on Rome. I thought Rome was very solid for us and was a bit sad to see him leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 So in the middle of this crappy lockout all you give us is Jim freakin' Vandermeer? Get lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edler's Mind Tricks Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 What's his MO? Flaws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 If there aren't any other better options why not. He gives us a little tougher look for games when we need it. We can swap out Ballard or Tanev when there may be need for less skill and more punching. On the other hand, I think there are probably guys who hit a lot more than Vandermeer does, and that is really what we need from a 6/7th tough guy. There are only so many fights, but if you can paste an opposing forward a few times a game and make them worried about coming into the offensive zone... that is worth a lot more. Of this exact ilk I would probably take Shaone Morrison over Vandermeer actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I'm not sold on the idea. It's not that I don't appreciate JV - it is that I don't see it as an optimal situation to have a guy on the 3rd pairing providing this role. I like the makeup of the Canucks blueline - I think the emphasis on mobility makes perfect sense - and I agree with Provost - would prefer to have a hard-nosed shut down guy who hits and can handle giants in front of the net whether he fights or not. A little harder to acquire, but perhaps worth it. If Vandermeer were a fourth line forward I think he'd be a better fit - as it is, I'd rather see the Canucks give up an asset/prospect/pick to get a guy like Chris Neil instead - imo it is preferable to have a depth forward providing deterrence - and if he is a skilled wrecking ball like Neil who can play third line minutes, even better. I'd pay the price in assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsey Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 don't know too much about the guy, but based on how he talks in that article it sounds like he has a passion and goal for playing on this team. If you have a guy thats wants to be here, chances are he is going to play well. Must be an upgrade over Rome from what I've seen at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00bxQb Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Kevin Connauton, Derek Joslin and Patrick Mullen are skating with the Chicago Wolves and may merit roster consideration on the back end with the loss of the skilled Sami Salo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00bxQb Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 If there aren't any other better options why not. He gives us a little tougher look for games when we need it. We can swap out Ballard or Tanev when there may be need for less skill and more punching. On the other hand, I think there are probably guys who hit a lot more than Vandermeer does, and that is really what we need from a 6/7th tough guy. There are only so many fights, but if you can paste an opposing forward a few times a game and make them worried about coming into the offensive zone... that is worth a lot more. Of this exact ilk I would probably take Shaone Morrison over Vandermeer actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00bxQb Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 What's his MO? Flaws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00bxQb Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Other possibilities:Brett ClarkChris CampoliPaul RangerColin WhiteMike MottauMark Eaton<Where I'd put Jim Vandermeer on my list>Matt GilroyKent HuskinsRandy JonesCam BarkerNick Boynton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieCrumbs Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Vandermeer > Alberts Alberts can lay the odd heavy hit, but he has zero edge, can't fight for sh*t, and is inconsistent with his hits. I'm always rooting for the guy, but Vandermeer is an obvious upgrade over him. PTO at the very LEAST. I say bring him in as our 7th defenseman on a 1 year. That's assuming we don't get any D back in a Lou trade or whatever ends up happening with that ridiculous situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyFox Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Stay away from him he would not help us in the playoffs.. Guy is to slow and a pylon he's the type of defenseman that could cause that brutal turnover or take a dumb penalty. Also during the charity game The thunder birds made him look like a snail to slow for the game I'm sure there is better options out there for toughness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 We need a big, physical shutdown stay at home defenceman, especially for our bottom-half and that is what Vandermeer is. He's also capable of playing 20+ minutes in case we have an injury to our top-4, something Ballard and Tanev weren't capable of during the last two post season runs. Edler - Garrison Hamhuis - Bieksa Ballard - Vandermeer Tanev Alberts We desperately need defensive depth, especially seeing as Alberts' size is rarely being used, and I've been saying that guys like Vandermeer or Jurcina would fill that role perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieCrumbs Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Stay away from him he would not help us in the playoffs.. Guy is to slow and a pylon he's the type of defenseman that could cause that brutal turnover or take a dumb penalty. Also during the charity game The thunder birds made him look like a snail to slow for the game I'm sure there is better options out there for toughness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyFox Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Trade route when we deal luongo I'm sure the Canucks can find a depth defenseman of a Aaron Rome type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieCrumbs Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien37 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Lets hope the softest team in the league pulls the trigger on a stable veteran fighter like this...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossram Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 We need a big, physical shutdown stay at home defenceman, especially for our bottom-half and that is what Vandermeer is. He's also capable of playing 20+ minutes in case we have an injury to our top-4, something Ballard and Tanev weren't capable of during the last two post season runs. Edler - Garrison Hamhuis - Bieksa Ballard - Vandermeer Tanev Alberts We desperately need defensive depth, especially seeing as Alberts' size is rarely being used, and I've been saying that guys like Vandermeer or Jurcina would fill that role perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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