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#31 Red Light Racicot

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 05:11 PM

He made Chuck Norris and Donald Trump lose their fricking minds

It was humorous

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 05:33 PM

His legacy?

Even a foreign born Muslim communist can grow up and steal a presidential election.


Sounds like you have issues. This must go back to when you, he and little donald were growing up in Kenya.
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 05:35 PM

Sounds like you have issues. This must go back to when you, he and little donald were growing up in Kenya.

Sounds like your irony detection meter is malfunctioning.
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 05:49 PM

The whole fiscal cliff thing is a joke. This is exactly what america needs. Let the taxes go back to what they were and then start cutting the budget. This branding of the "Fiscal Cliff" makes it sound so scary. In reality it should be called "getting america on track". This is the only time that doing nothing actually is better than doing something. Just let it happen and things will begin to start moving in the right direction. Do anything else and you are just prolonging what you will need to do in the future anyways


Ya, but the guaranteed -2% GDP and -2 million jobs and surefire cratering of the stock market in the short term will hurt. Though by sticking to not compromising on at least new taxes for the rich (which is in violation of the Americans for tax reform pledges every Republican in congress has signed) he might be able to guide the nation of the "cliff" while actually blaming it on the Republicans.

Then he could have his cake and eat it too.

The next couple months are going to decide his legacy for sure.
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 05:50 PM

he better fix climate change or we're screwed
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 05:59 PM

he better fix climate change or we're screwed


Well then we're screwed. Unless you think he can convince two billion Chinese and Indians to go back to riding bikes and his own population to give up it's cars and houses and move into the city.

Mind you, going over the fiscal cliff would be a good start to that! :shock:
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 07:17 PM

he better fix climate change or we're screwed


I dont think even Superman could do that. That would require like, a major alteration of our weather patterns and stuff.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 08:21 PM

I dont think even Superman could do that. That would require like, a major alteration of our weather patterns and stuff.

Well then we're screwed. Unless you think he can convince two billion Chinese and Indians to go back to riding bikes and his own population to give up it's cars and houses and move into the city.

Mind you, going over the fiscal cliff would be a good start to that! :shock:


Actually with all the money invested into the military and all the useless aid they give to countries, they could already have developed something to maybe not stop but slow down climate change
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 09:37 PM

His legacy will be marking the point in history when the white establishment no longer held sway in national elections. Romney won 60 percent of the white vote and still lost.
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 10:10 PM

-first non-white President
-new healthcare law
-devastated international terrorism with drone attacks, special forces
-maintained Bush-era erosion of civil liberties, expansion of executive privilege which are now status quo
-first-ever President to admit marijuana, cocaine use
-built incredibly advanced Democratic Party electoral machine

What else might happen in the next four years? Tough to say, but some things are on the radar...

-immigration reform
-drug law reform
-regime change in Iran
-partial withdrawal from Afghanistan
-incremental economic reforms (hopefully no "perestroika")
-minor reforms to social security, medicare
-possibly some sort of assassination/coup plot? especially if economy slumps again

Say what you want about the guy, he's definitely an active President. No laying down on the job for Obama, he gets things done.

he better fix climate change or we're screwed


I don't think anybody can "fix climate change." What do you expect, we're gonna stop the climate from changing? That's an insane expectation, climate is always changing and always has been. Climate change is not the danger it's made out to be. Solutions include building sea walls, flood control, requiring higher safety standards for buildings. We don't have the technology to control a complex system like global or even regional climate and trying is more likely to backfire than do anything useful.

Edited by ThaBestPlaceOnEarth, 22 November 2012 - 10:15 PM.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 10:54 PM

Honestly him being the first non-white president will FAR overshadow anything barring world peace, heck look at how quickly everyone forgot about taking out Bin Laden
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 01:55 AM

Damage control for 8 years of this guy:

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 02:17 AM

-first non-white President
-new healthcare law
-devastated international terrorism with drone attacks, special forces
-maintained Bush-era erosion of civil liberties, expansion of executive privilege which are now status quo
-first-ever President to admit marijuana, cocaine use
-built incredibly advanced Democratic Party electoral machine

What else might happen in the next four years? Tough to say, but some things are on the radar...

-immigration reform
-drug law reform
-regime change in Iran
-partial withdrawal from Afghanistan
-incremental economic reforms (hopefully no "perestroika")
-minor reforms to social security, medicare
-possibly some sort of assassination/coup plot? especially if economy slumps again

Say what you want about the guy, he's definitely an active President. No laying down on the job for Obama, he gets things done.



I don't think anybody can "fix climate change." What do you expect, we're gonna stop the climate from changing? That's an insane expectation, climate is always changing and always has been. Climate change is not the danger it's made out to be. Solutions include building sea walls, flood control, requiring higher safety standards for buildings. We don't have the technology to control a complex system like global or even regional climate and trying is more likely to backfire than do anything useful.



You may be right , the effects of global warming maybe impossible to negate , but if we do not make an effort to reduce greenhouse gases , future generations will not enjoy the quality of life we do.
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 10:19 AM

Drone bombing defenseless women and children while they are asleep.
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 10:47 AM

Actually with all the money invested into the military and all the useless aid they give to countries, they could already have developed something to maybe not stop but slow down climate change


They could have developed a bullet to the head of every american and Canadian and dedicate the whole freaking continent into a international nature park and there would still be global warming.
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:13 AM

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Well then we're screwed. Unless you think he can convince two billion Chinese and Indians to go back to riding bikes and his own population to give up it's cars and houses and move into the city.

Mind you, going over the fiscal cliff would be a good start to that! :shock:


He doesn't have to convince anyone to do anything. He could stop spending insane amounts of money on unofficially declared wars to steal oil for his country's benefit. The carbon monoxide is already polluting so much of the worlds water and is clearly having an effect on the Earths patterns. Like buddy said above me, he could have invested great amounts of money into reversing this embarrassment we humans like to pretend doesn't exist; but just like any other issue, we'll wait till the absolute last second to do anything about it.
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:18 AM

Everything seems to be laid at Obama's feet .. perhaps his legacy will be the lowest functioning Congress in history .. since the Prez CANNOT initiate spending but rather only "lead thru suggestion" and use the power to veto where appropriate ..
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:27 AM

Everything seems to be laid at Obama's feet .. perhaps his legacy will be the lowest functioning Congress in history .. since the Prez CANNOT initiate spending but rather only "lead thru suggestion" and use the power to veto where appropriate ..


In good news he can veto his way over the fiscal cliff in the congress doesn't decide to turn it's back on the Americans for Tax Reform pledge forms. He can veto in tax increases for the rich (and everyone else), cuts to military, increase to dividends and capital gains tax. A leftist cornicopia of happiness!
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:28 AM

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He doesn't have to convince anyone to do anything. He could stop spending insane amounts of money on unofficially declared wars to steal oil for his country's benefit. The carbon monoxide is already polluting so much of the worlds water and is clearly having an effect on the Earths patterns. Like buddy said above me, he could have invested great amounts of money into reversing this embarrassment we humans like to pretend doesn't exist; but just like any other issue, we'll wait till the absolute last second to do anything about it.


They could have developed a bullet to the head of every american and Canadian and dedicate the whole freaking continent into a international nature park and there would still be global warming
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:28 AM

In good news he can veto his way over the fiscal cliff in the congress doesn't decide to turn it's back on the Americans for Tax Reform pledge forms. He can veto in tax increases for the rich (and everyone else), cuts to military, increase to dividends and capital gains tax. A leftist cornicopia of happiness!


Viva la'revolution, Brother .. :rolleyes:
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:54 AM

Viva la'revolution, Brother .. :rolleyes:

Just pointing out that an adjustment to the US federal budget solving global warming is fantasy at best.
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 12:39 PM

His legacy?? Bribing his way into office.

Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney said that President Barack Obama won re-election because of the "gifts" he had already provided to blacks, Hispanics and young voters and because of the president's effort to paint Romney as anti-immigrant.

"The president's campaign, if you will, focused on giving targeted groups a big gift," Romney said in a call to donors on Wednesday. "He made a big effort on small things.

And it seems Mitt was correct as Obama was caught on camera paying off his supporters.


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Posted 23 November 2012 - 01:14 PM

They could have developed a bullet to the head of every american and Canadian and dedicate the whole freaking continent into a international nature park and there would still be global warming


Haha and why is that?
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 03:00 PM

Haha and why is that?


The expected energy demands of the emerging economies of China, India, and Brazil alone will offset any changes we make to emissions even if we were somehow able to eliminate them entirely.

Oh, and even with the tax increases and massive cuts to military spending included in the fiscal cliff (minus one million military jobs that's no small cut) the US will still be massively in debt and deficit and in no position to toss a pile of money at some new environmental initiative. They don't even have the money to pay their existing bills. Even if they reduced military spending to zero!
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Posted 24 November 2012 - 01:16 PM

The expected energy demands of the emerging economies of China, India, and Brazil alone will offset any changes we make to emissions even if we were somehow able to eliminate them entirely.

Oh, and even with the tax increases and massive cuts to military spending included in the fiscal cliff (minus one million military jobs that's no small cut) the US will still be massively in debt and deficit and in no position to toss a pile of money at some new environmental initiative. They don't even have the money to pay their existing bills. Even if they reduced military spending to zero!


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If they stop fueling for war, then they would have money to pay off some of the debt, and it would be a great step in the right direction. No one wants to fight these wars and people are becoming increasingly sick of them.
If the US was going to spend imaginary money on anything, it should have been investments.
They could have easily decided to stimulate the economy rather than spend it on power and control.
The US is fighting wars that don't need to be fought, and they're wasting way to much money on this. If I was American, I wouldn't be okay with having a flag drenched in blood.

What we as people need to do is stop worrying about what will make us the quickest dollar and actually focus on fixing the issues that we're stimulating. As long as humanity is a closed-minded, egotistical, selfish race; we will always be a cancerous bacteria. Just as mold to a sandwich, we're humans to an Earth.
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Posted 24 November 2012 - 01:35 PM

:picard: Click This Bud

If they stop fueling for war, then they would have money to pay off some of the debt, and it would be a great step in the right direction. No one wants to fight these wars and people are becoming increasingly sick of them.
If the US was going to spend imaginary money on anything, it should have been investments.
They could have easily decided to stimulate the economy rather than spend it on power and control.
The US is fighting wars that don't need to be fought, and they're wasting way to much money on this. If I was American, I wouldn't be okay with having a flag drenched in blood.

What we as people need to do is stop worrying about what will make us the quickest dollar and actually focus on fixing the issues that we're stimulating. As long as humanity is a closed-minded, egotistical, selfish race; we will always be a cancerous bacteria. Just as mold to a sandwich, we're humans to an Earth.


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Posted 24 November 2012 - 01:55 PM

Obama is definately in the running for "worst President not named LBJ," shared, in contention with the other Boomer Presidents.
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Posted 24 November 2012 - 02:00 PM

Obama is definately in the running for "worst President not named LBJ," shared, in contention with the other Boomer Presidents.


And the thinking behind this is?
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 05:42 AM

-first non-white President
-new healthcare law
-devastated international terrorism with drone attacks, special forces
-maintained Bush-era erosion of civil liberties, expansion of executive privilege which are now status quo
-first-ever President to admit marijuana, cocaine use
-built incredibly advanced Democratic Party electoral machine

What else might happen in the next four years? Tough to say, but some things are on the radar...

-immigration reform
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-regime change in Iran
-partial withdrawal from Afghanistan
-incremental economic reforms (hopefully no "perestroika")
-minor reforms to social security, medicare
-possibly some sort of assassination/coup plot? especially if economy slumps again

Say what you want about the guy, he's definitely an active President. No laying down on the job for Obama, he gets things done.



First off if the legacy you leave is the color of your skin instead of the substance of your being than that really isn't much of a legacy. Secondly, introducing a heavily unpopular health care bill when the country is already broke is not really a smart fiscal move. Also, most of the terrorism was taken care of by his predecessor and the drone attacks killed many innocent people much like his predecessor and as far as special forces go many of which died to defend america only to have the gov't cover it up and not even acknowledge the troops that perished under his botched leadership. Thirdly, admitting you were once drug addict is not exactly something you want people to put on your resume.

Finally as far as being "active" other than giving speeches, Obama has pretty much taken the entire year off only to throw one party after another to raise money to buy his second election victory. He made numerous promises he didn't keep like every other politician out there and if the economy goes off the fiscal cliff like it looks like it will than his legacy will be the president that will have finally bankrupted the country due to being corrupt to wall street and financially illiterate.

Instead of uniting America he has pretty much torn it apart so other than he is doing a bang up job so far and people are really looking forward to the next four years and beyond.
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 07:14 AM

First off if the legacy you leave is the color of your skin instead of the substance of your being than that really isn't much of a legacy. Secondly, introducing a heavily unpopular health care bill when the country is already broke is not really a smart fiscal move. Also, most of the terrorism was taken care of by his predecessor and the drone attacks killed many innocent people much like his predecessor and as far as special forces go many of which died to defend america only to have the gov't cover it up and not even acknowledge the troops that perished under his botched leadership. Thirdly, admitting you were once drug addict is not exactly something you want people to put on your resume.

Finally as far as being "active" other than giving speeches, Obama has pretty much taken the entire year off only to throw one party after another to raise money to buy his second election victory. He made numerous promises he didn't keep like every other politician out there and if the economy goes off the fiscal cliff like it looks like it will than his legacy will be the president that will have finally bankrupted the country due to being corrupt to wall street and financially illiterate.

Instead of uniting America he has pretty much torn it apart so other than he is doing a bang up job so far and people are really looking forward to the next four years and beyond.


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