ronthecivil Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Largely Chinese owned oil companies. Again, I don't disagree that we need to cut spending AND raise taxes (GST...stupid Cons). We have plenty of money though...it's just not being spent remotely wisely. I doubt any party will make a major dent in that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 While the jets are a massive cost that would be the first to be cut we need some sort of plane so it's not just a matter of saving all the money. Resource protectionism (or flat out obstructionism) will ultimately result in less jobs and less money for Canadians (at least anyone with any sort of mutual funds in their retirement plan). And there's things that could be done other than just build more prisons. But it's not like anyone else wouldn't fill that extra spending with even more spending. If you think jets are expensive check out the costs of adding even more entitlements in a demographic crunch! Pretty ridiculous line of reasoning to say well, we're going broke anyways, might as well make it harder to pull ourselves out of the whole when the **** hits the fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Just as ridiculous to perpetuate this notion that there is no money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Canada is giving money to Chinese owned oil companies? The Chinese are trying to buy Nexen, which, if it happens, would be the Chinese giving a lot of money to Canadians. But it's likely the government will block that. Oil companies (be they foreign or domestic) pay a TON of money to Canada in royalties and taxes, be they foreign or independent. Look at how much a drop in natural gas prices put our provincial budget out of whack! Make no mistake the feds take the lions share of revenue as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 It would be even more money if we didn't squander it. It's short term thinking that a quick fire sale of our resources to the Chinese because we're in a bit of a financial pickle is a good idea. Long term we're better off to retain those assets here. To create jobs here. Jobs for people who will pay taxes and buy goods and homes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted November 29, 2012 Author Share Posted November 29, 2012 Nice contradiction there Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 It is not a contradiction if you truly believe that Canada is much better off when Quebeckers run things - like Justin Trudeau said as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Do we really need the eastern Canada language politics garbage (especially tenuous jabs like this) staining the entire country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Consider this process a "primary" .. all candidates will pamper to their base and where the votes are .. the votes are NOT in the West .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 When you are running for the job of leader for the COUNTRY you shouldn't leave yourself open for such jabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I didn't say anything about him funneling money to Quebec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I didn't say anything about him funneling money to Quebec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 Consider this process a "primary" .. all candidates will pamper to their base and where the votes are .. the votes are NOT in the West .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electro Rock Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I have this funny feeling that Harper could kill off what remains of the LPC whenever he wants to by order a full investigation into any number of their activities during the time they were in power. But, he choses not to because that would, for a time at least, do away with the vote split on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Well they will probably block the Nexen deal anyways. And the foreign worker program is probably going to be cut down what with the noise over the coal workers here. But last I checked Fort McMurray is chock a block full of Canadians making big money who do pay taxes and buy goods (if you consider truck balls and meth goods that is) and homes. If you block (or even look hostile to) foreign investment that means less development, less money for the government, and less jobs. What do you propose the government do? NEP v 2.0? That would go over like a lead balloon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Investigate the Mulroney regime and we would need a new prison .. they are ALL pigs at the trough when in power .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electro Rock Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 That's true, but it was far worse when the Eastern elites (of which the Progressive Conservative Red Tories were just another faction of) were in power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 Today the Commons Standing Committee on Natural Resources has summoned Trudeau and McGuinty to appear before them and explain their anti-Alberta comments. Seriously???? When the motion first surfaced earlier this week, Liberal MP John McKay successfully staved off a vote by moving amendment after amendment to protest what he dismissed as a partisan witch hunt. It seems the Liberals now see no real downside - and nor do I. At 12:50 p.m., the sitting resumed in camera. It was agreed, — That the Committee, in light of the comments by Senior Liberal MP David McGuinty and Liberal leadership candidate Justin Trudeau, conduct hearings on the economic benefits that flow from Alberta's energy sector across Canada; that Members of Parliament David McGuinty and Justin Trudeau be invited as witnesses to explain their comments; and that the Committee report its findings to the House in order to ensure that all Members of Parliament and Canadians are informed of these economic benefits. http://www.parl.gc.c...1&Parl=41&Ses=1 A spokesperson for the Trudeau campaign sends along this response: Even though this government has no respect for Parliament, we do. And Justin will be happy to go explain himself and share his vision for natural resources in Canada when we are given the details of the request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 what a total waste of time, money and energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 what a total waste of time, money and energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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