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#1 Red-Haired_Shanks

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 07:10 PM

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i have been reading here for a while and it seams that there are a lot of people who expect way too much out of our prospects. not all of our prospects will turn out to be NHLers or even elite NHLers, so realistically what will you expect our prospects to turn out as
here are the prospects

edit: added comparable's to NHLers

Goaltenders:
-Eddie Lack: Decent NHL Starter- lindback like
-Joe Cannata: NHL Backup/AHL starter-clemmensen like
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-David Honzik: Does not make NHL, possible AHL Backup

Defense:
-Chris Tanev: NHL 2nd pairing-kevin klein like
-Kevin Connauton :NHL 2nd pairing-salo/garrison like
-Patrick McNally : NHL 2nd-3rd pairing-Allen like
-Frank Corrado: NHL 1st/2nd pairing-carle like
-Yann Sauve: NHL 5th-6th D-man-douglas murray
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-Henrik Tommernes: Europe top 4
-Jermey Price: AHL top 4
-Adam Polasek: Europe top 6
-Ben Hutton: AHL top 4
-Evan McEneny: AHL top 6
-Peter Andersson: Europe top 6

LW:
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-Darren Archibald: AHL bottom 6/4th liner
-Ludwig Blomstrand: Europe 3rd liner
-Steven Anthony: AHL bottom 6
-Bill Sweatt: AHL top 6
-Wesley Myron: AHL 3rd liner
-Matthew Beatie: AHL 3rd liner

RW:
-Nicklas Jensen: NHL 1st line- matt molson like
-Zack Kassian: NHL 2nd line- bertuzzi like
-Anton Rodin: Europe top 6/NHL 3rd liner-hansen like
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-Alexandre Grenier: Europe top 6
-Pathrik Westerholm: Europe 3rd liner
-Kellan Tochkin: Europe 3rd liner

Centers:
-Jordan Schroeder: NHL 3rd liner-Goc like
-Brendan Gaunce: NHL 2nd/3rd liner-kesler like
-Joseph Labate: NHL 3rd liner- gaustad like
-Alexandre Mallet: NHL 4th liner-lapierre like
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-Prab Rai: AHL 3rd liner/ECHLer
-Alex Freisen: AHL 3rd liner
-Stefan Schneider: AHL 3rd/4th liner


what do you expect?
i think corrado is going to turn out well and surprise a lot of people.
if schroeder can overcome his size problem he can be alright.
i can see gaunce turning out like kesler, expected to be a 3rd line checking center and turn out to be a great 2 way forward who can put up points.
our left wingers need to improve big time.
i think Gillis should trade up in the draft this year to get a top 10 pick.

Edited by Red-Haired_Shanks, 25 November 2012 - 09:15 PM.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 07:27 PM

Goaltenders:
Eddie Lack: NHL backup
Joe Cannata: 3rd String/ AHL starter

Defense:
Chris Tanev: NHL 2nd pair
Kevin Connauton: NHL 3rd pair/PP specialist (think MA Bergeron)
Patrick McNally: NHL 7th or 8th D-Man/ AHL top pair (think Dylan Reese)
Frank Corrado: NHL 3rd pair
Yann Sauve: NHL 7th or 8th D-man/ AHL top pair
Henrik Tommernes: NHL 7th or 8th D-Man/ AHL top pair (assuming he comes to NA)

RW:
Nicklas Jensen: NHL 1st/2nd line (Would be good 2nd liner, good enough to play 1st if needed)
Zack Kassian: NHL 1st/2nd line
Anton Rodin: NHL 3rd line/AHL 1st line (however unless he's good enough to get a top 6 role he won't be very effective in the NHL)

Centers:
Jordan Schroeder: Depth Forward/ AHL 1st line (Think Andrew Ebbett)
Brendan Gaunce: NHL 2nd/3rd line (Would be a great 3rd liner, would be good enough to play 2nd if needed)
Joseph Labate: NHL 4th line
Alexandre Mallet: NHL 4th line

Anyone one I left out I don't expect to be in a position to make our team.
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Posted 25 November 2012 - 07:41 PM

Goaltenders:
-Eddie Lack: NHL Backup
-Joe Cannata: AHL starter
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-David Honzik: Czech league starter

Defense:
-Chris Tanev: NHL 2nd pairing
-Kevin Connauton :NHL 3rd pairing, PP QB
-Frank Corrado: NHL 2nd pairing
-Yann Sauve: NHL Depth dman
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-Adam Polasek: Europe top 6

LW:
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-Darren Archibald: AHL bottom 6/4th liner
-Steven Anthony: AHL bottom 6
-Bill Sweatt: NHL 3rd liner

RW:
-Nicklas Jensen: NHL 1st line
-Zack Kassian: NHL 1st line
-Anton Rodin: Europe top 6
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Centers:
-Jordan Schroeder: NHL 2nd liner
-Brendan Gaunce: NHL 2nd liner
-Alexandre Mallet: NHL 3rd liner
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-Prab Rai: ECHLer
-Alex Freisen: AHL 3rd liner
-Stefan Schneider: AHL 3rd/4th liner

Our prospect system sucks. We have a handful of future NHLers, none of which are elite prospects, but the rest are longshots.

Edited by n00bxQb, 25 November 2012 - 07:42 PM.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 07:46 PM

Lack: journeyman starter. Like a poor man's Howard.

Tanev: top 4 defenseman. Uses his brain and is a great first passer. Not sure who to compare to.
Sauve: tope 4 shutdown defenseman. Like Mitchell or Douglas Murray
Connauton: top 4 power play quarterback. Like Salo with his shot.
Corrado: 7th defenseman. A poor man's Alberts.

Jensen: borderline first liner. Like shoot first Bertuzzi.
Kassian: third/second liner. Like a poor man's Bertuzzi.
Rodin: third liner. Like Raymond. (I don't see him in a Canucks uniform though)

Schroeder: a useful third liner. Like a poor man's Kesler.
Gaunce: second/third liner. Like Laich or Bolland.
Mallet: typical 4th liner.

People I didn't mention won't make the NHL as regulars.

This is just my opinion.
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Posted 25 November 2012 - 07:48 PM

Centers:

Brendan Gaunce: 2nd line power forward. I could see Gaunce becoming a Jordan Staal type player

Jordan Schroeder: 2nd line playmaker

Alexander Mallet: Bottom six grinder

Joseph Labate: 4th liner

Right wingers:

Nicklas Jensen: 1st line sniper

Zack Kassian: 1st/2nd line power forward

Anton Rodin: Decent 3rd line grinder, could fill in on the 2nd line incase of injuries

Defensemen:

Chris Tanev: Top 4

Kevin Connauton: Same as Tanev but maybe a tad worse

Patrick McNally: Decent depth D man, will play majority of his time on the top pair in the AHL

Henrik Tommernes: Maybe AHL top six? Will most likely play in Europe

Frank Corrado: Solid offensive 3rd pair D man

Yann Sauve: Same as Corrado

Goalies:

Eddie Lack: Starter on a team like Chicago, back up on a team like Vancouver

Joe Cannata: AHL Starter
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 07:56 PM

I ve been following the AHL more closely this year with no NHL, and I must say that I am a bit dissapointed with our prospects.
I dont really see any stars or impact players on the horizon. The only NHL ready player I ve seen would be Tanev, and even then, he s looked shaky at times.

Chris Tanev - 2nd Pairing, reliable puck moving defender
Zazh Kassian - 2nd/3rd Line Winger
Niklas Jensen - 2nd/3rd Line Winger
Frank Corrado - 2nd Pairing reliable defender (Very Similar to Tanev)
Eddie Lack - Backup Goaltender
Gaunce - 3rd/4th Line Centre, defensive specialist
Schroeder - Occasional call-up NHL player

Rodin - Does not make NHL
Price - Does not make NHL
Cannata - Does not make NHL

Not that great in comparison to most teams, but thats what you get for being a winning franchise.
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Posted 25 November 2012 - 08:08 PM

Gaunce like Kesler?? I doubt that... more like a Brendan Morrison type in my opinion
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Posted 25 November 2012 - 08:08 PM

Goaltenders:
Eddie Lack - Decent NHL Starter
Joe Cannata - AHL starter/NHL Backup

Defensemen:
Chris Tanev - 2nd Pair D-man
Frank Corrado - 2nd Pair D-man (Similar to Tanev)
Yann Sauve - Depth D-man (Think Alberts/Rome)
Kevin Connaution - 2nd/3rd Pair + PP QB (Think Ehrhoff's Role when he was here)
Henrik Tommernes - Depth D-man/AHL top Pair (Think Alex Sulzer)

Forwards:
Nick Jensen - 1st/2nd Liner (Borderline 1st Liner)
Zack Kassian - Good 2nd Line PWF (Think Scott Hartnell)
Brendan Gaunce - Good Two-way 2nd Line Center (Think Brooks Laich)
Jordan Schroeder - 2nd Line Forward (Dangerous Scoring/Playmaking ability)
Anton Rodin - 2nd/3rd line tweener forward (Raymond/Higgins)
Alexander Mallet - 3rd/4th line Physical/Grinding two-way center (Think Maxim Lappierre)

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 08:17 PM

I ve been following the AHL more closely this year with no NHL, and I must say that I am a bit dissapointed with our prospects.
I dont really see any stars or impact players on the horizon. The only NHL ready player I ve seen would be Tanev, and even then, he s looked shaky at times.

Chris Tanev - 2nd Pairing, reliable puck moving defender
Zazh Kassian - 2nd/3rd Line Winger
Niklas Jensen - 2nd/3rd Line Winger
Frank Corrado - 2nd Pairing reliable defender (Very Similar to Tanev)
Eddie Lack - Backup Goaltender
Gaunce - 3rd/4th Line Centre, defensive specialist
Schroeder - Occasional call-up NHL player

Rodin - Does not make NHL
Price - Does not make NHL
Cannata - Does not make NHL

Not that great in comparison to most teams, but thats what you get for being a winning franchise.


^this

We have one of the weakest prospect pools in the league. Other than leaving out Connaution, who I believe will be a 7th defence man, I agree with your entire list.
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Posted 25 November 2012 - 08:58 PM

I ve been following the AHL more closely this year with no NHL, and I must say that I am a bit dissapointed with our prospects.
I dont really see any stars or impact players on the horizon. The only NHL ready player I ve seen would be Tanev, and even then, he s looked shaky at times.

Chris Tanev - 2nd Pairing, reliable puck moving defender
Zazh Kassian - 2nd/3rd Line Winger
Niklas Jensen - 2nd/3rd Line Winger
Frank Corrado - 2nd Pairing reliable defender (Very Similar to Tanev)
Eddie Lack - Backup Goaltender
Gaunce - 3rd/4th Line Centre, defensive specialist
Schroeder - Occasional call-up NHL player

Rodin - Does not make NHL
Price - Does not make NHL
Cannata - Does not make NHL

Not that great in comparison to most teams, but thats what you get for being a winning franchise.

I may like Gaunce a little more than you, and Corrado a little less but I also think you have basically nailed it here.

I also think that Ben Hutton and Patrick McNally could be long shots/sleepers.
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Posted 25 November 2012 - 09:01 PM

I ve been following the AHL more closely this year with no NHL, and I must say that I am a bit dissapointed with our prospects.
I dont really see any stars or impact players on the horizon. The only NHL ready player I ve seen would be Tanev, and even then, he s looked shaky at times.

Chris Tanev - 2nd Pairing, reliable puck moving defender
Zazh Kassian - 2nd/3rd Line Winger
Niklas Jensen - 2nd/3rd Line Winger
Frank Corrado - 2nd Pairing reliable defender (Very Similar to Tanev)
Eddie Lack - Backup Goaltender
Gaunce - 3rd/4th Line Centre, defensive specialist
Schroeder - Occasional call-up NHL player

Rodin - Does not make NHL
Price - Does not make NHL
Cannata - Does not make NHL

Not that great in comparison to most teams, but thats what you get for being a winning franchise.


Really Jensen only a 2nd/3rd liner? (Basicly Raymond/Higgins/Hansen)

And Gaunce only a defensive specalist.

Schroeder has also been playing pretty well for the Wolves.


I don't have a huge issue with anything else but I disagree on those 3.
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Posted 25 November 2012 - 09:05 PM

Goaltenders:
Eddie Lack: NHL backup
Joe Cannata: 3rd String/ AHL starter

Defense:
Chris Tanev: NHL 2nd pair
Kevin Connauton: NHL 3rd pair/PP specialist (think MA Bergeron)
Patrick McNally: NHL 7th or 8th D-Man/ AHL top pair (think Dylan Reese)
Frank Corrado: NHL 3rd pair
Yann Sauve: NHL 7th or 8th D-man/ AHL top pair
Henrik Tommernes: NHL 7th or 8th D-Man/ AHL top pair (assuming he comes to NA)

RW:
Nicklas Jensen: NHL 1st/2nd line (Would be good 2nd liner, good enough to play 1st if needed)
Zack Kassian: NHL 1st/2nd line
Anton Rodin: NHL 3rd line/AHL 1st line (however unless he's good enough to get a top 6 role he won't be very effective in the NHL)

Centers:
Jordan Schroeder: Depth Forward/ AHL 1st line (Think Andrew Ebbett)
Brendan Gaunce: NHL 2nd/3rd line (Would be a great 3rd liner, would be good enough to play 2nd if needed)
Joseph Labate: NHL 4th line
Alexandre Mallet: NHL 4th line

Anyone one I left out I don't expect to be in a position to make our team.


I pretty much agree with all this. Out of all these players as much as i would like to see everyone develop to their top level, i really look forward to seeing what Kassian and Jensen can do in a few short years here.
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Posted 25 November 2012 - 09:12 PM

Schroeder: Complete bust.
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Posted 25 November 2012 - 09:36 PM

Schroeder: Complete bust.


Too early to already be saying that dude
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Posted 25 November 2012 - 09:47 PM

Schroeder: Complete bust.


Too early to already be saying that dude


I agree, he is having a bit of an issue between Junior and Pro which is worrisome. But he is picking up his game here and is showing a good offensive upside lately. Too early to write him off
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Posted 25 November 2012 - 09:58 PM

Too early to already be saying that dude


No it isn't, hes had 3 years since draft and hasn't had a single NHL game and doesn't come close to a point per game in the lower leagues. He is too small to play bottom 6, and not good enough to play top 6. He will be in the AHL for his entire career unless he learns to create plays like a sedin.
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Posted 25 November 2012 - 10:25 PM

No it isn't, hes had 3 years since draft and hasn't had a single NHL game and doesn't come close to a point per game in the lower leagues. He is too small to play bottom 6, and not good enough to play top 6. He will be in the AHL for his entire career unless he learns to create plays like a sedin.


Your point? Niether has Connaution. Is he a bust?

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 11:52 PM

i have been reading here for a while and it seams that there are a lot of people who expect way too much out of our prospects. not all of our prospects will turn out to be NHLers or even elite NHLers, so realistically what will you expect our prospects to turn out as
here are the prospects

edit: added comparable's to NHLers

Goaltenders:
-Eddie Lack: Decent NHL Starter- lindback like
-Joe Cannata: NHL Backup/AHL starter-clemmensen like
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-David Honzik: Does not make NHL, possible AHL Backup

Defense:
-Chris Tanev: NHL 2nd pairing-kevin klein like
-Kevin Connauton :NHL 2nd pairing-salo/garrison like
-Patrick McNally : NHL 2nd-3rd pairing-Allen like
-Frank Corrado: NHL 1st/2nd pairing-carle like
-Yann Sauve: NHL 5th-6th D-man-douglas murray
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-Henrik Tommernes: Europe top 4
-Jermey Price: AHL top 4
-Adam Polasek: Europe top 6
-Ben Hutton: AHL top 4
-Evan McEneny: AHL top 6
-Peter Andersson: Europe top 6

LW:
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-Darren Archibald: AHL bottom 6/4th liner
-Ludwig Blomstrand: Europe 3rd liner
-Steven Anthony: AHL bottom 6
-Bill Sweatt: AHL top 6
-Wesley Myron: AHL 3rd liner
-Matthew Beatie: AHL 3rd liner

RW:
-Nicklas Jensen: NHL 1st line- matt molson like
-Zack Kassian: NHL 2nd line- bertuzzi like
-Anton Rodin: Europe top 6/NHL 3rd liner-hansen like
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-Alexandre Grenier: Europe top 6
-Pathrik Westerholm: Europe 3rd liner
-Kellan Tochkin: Europe 3rd liner

Centers:
-Jordan Schroeder: NHL 3rd liner-Goc like
-Brendan Gaunce: NHL 2nd/3rd liner-kesler like
-Joseph Labate: NHL 3rd liner- gaustad like
-Alexandre Mallet: NHL 4th liner-lapierre like
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-Prab Rai: AHL 3rd liner/ECHLer
-Alex Freisen: AHL 3rd liner
-Stefan Schneider: AHL 3rd/4th liner


what do you expect?
i think corrado is going to turn out well and surprise a lot of people.
if schroeder can overcome his size problem he can be alright.
i can see gaunce turning out like kesler, expected to be a 3rd line checking center and turn out to be a great 2 way forward who can put up points.
our left wingers need to improve big time.
i think Gillis should trade up in the draft this year to get a top 10 pick.


Not bad projections, but obviously some are optimistic than others.
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Posted 25 November 2012 - 11:55 PM

Your point? Niether has Connaution. Is he a bust?

Unless he suddenly discovers how to defend, yes.
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Posted 26 November 2012 - 12:02 AM

Forwards:
Nicklas Jensen: 1st line Sniper, 35-30 kinda guy
Zack Kassian: 1st/2nd line Powerforward, Bertuzzi-lite type player.
Jordan Schroeder: 2nd/3rd line Playmaking Center, 15-30, gets top PP minutes.
Brendan Gaunce 2nd/3rd line Two-way center. Plays top PK and can be slotted anywhere in the top 9 due to being able to play wing. 25-25-50 in prime.
Anton Rodin: Will either be a solid, more offensive Jannik Hansenesque player or will be an AHL top sixer.
And that's as far as my glitching out phone will let me go -_-

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 12:17 AM

Unless he suddenly discovers how to defend, yes.


His defensive game has improved leaps and bounds already, it's not quite the issue some think it is.
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Posted 26 November 2012 - 12:20 AM

Only included players with the potential to play in the NHL at some point in their careers (not necessarily regulars).

Goaltenders:
Eddie Lack: Regular NHL starter

Defense:
Chris Tanev: #2/3 defenseman
Frank Corrado: #3/4 defenseman
Kevin Connauton: #5/6 defenseman, possibly a top-4 guy if all goes well. Don't see it though.
Yann Sauve: #7 defenseman/AHL player

Forwards:
Nicklas Jensen: Second line winger
Zack Kassian: Second line winger
Jordan Schroeder: Second line center
Joseph LaBate: Second/third line center/winger. Not sure whether he has the offensive upside to be a legitimate top-6 forward but I'm higher on him than most it seems.
Brendan Gaunce: Third line center
Alexandre Mallet: Bottom-six forward, not overly optimistic.
Alex Friesen: Fourth line center/AHL forward
Anton Rodin: AHL/Euro player. Tools are impressive but he needs to start producing. Probably gets a few games in the NHL but will never be a regular IMO.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 12:42 AM

Goalies:
Eddie Lack- NHL Starter

Defensemen:
Chris Tanev- Second pairing d-man
Frank Corrado- Second pairing d-man
Kevin Connauton- #6,7 d-man
Yann Sauve- #7,8 d-man
Patrick McNally- #5,6 d-man

Forwards:
Nicklas Jensen- 1st line forward
Zack Kassian- 2nd line forward
Jordan Schroeder- Depth centre
Brendan Gaunce- 3rd or 4th line centre
Alex Friesen- 4th line centre
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Posted 26 November 2012 - 12:43 AM

Wasn't McEneny supposed to be a top pick in the last draft though? If it wasn't for his injuries he definitely would have been chosen early so I think that if he recovers well he will surprise a lot of people

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 12:51 AM

The biggest thing I've seen, is that I'm really happy Luongo is still with the big club. There's no way Lack could back up either Schneider or Luongo, at this point in time.
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Posted 26 November 2012 - 12:52 AM

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Off the top, not going to make it:

Rodin, Blomstrand, Price, Hutton, Myron, Beattie, Labate, Tochkin, Friesen, Rai, Archibald, Honzik

NHLers:

Forwards:

Schroeder - 2nd line potential, should be a dynamic forward in the NHL
Jensen - 1st line scoring winger - great puck possesion, and a hell of a wrister
Kassian - 1st line power forward - he's got sick hands, goes hard to the net, at worse he's your Byfuglien on the powerplay
Sweatt - 3rd liner at best, his scoring has tailed off since his rookie season, he's more of a checker with speed
Mallet - 4th line centre and top rate goon, this kid can hit and isn't afraid to throw down
Gaunce - 2nd line centre, every time I see him play he reminds me of Couture, he dangles, has great vision of the ice
Grenier - 4th line with some upside

Defence:

Tanev - 2nd pairing, top rate shutdown defenseman (though he is starting to show some offense)
Connauton - 3rd pairing, power play guy, hell of a slapper
Corrado - 2nd pairing, steady all around guy (Hamhuis jr.)
McNally - 3rd pairing, offensive upside
Andersson - Depth defenseman, shut down type
Sauve - 3rd pairing, physical defenseman, protects his goaltender
Polasek- Depth defenseman, used for physicality

Goalies:

Lack - NHL starter, he's struggled this season, but he's got the body and the reflexes to become a top goaltender
Cannata -NHL backup, he's a technical goalie, reads the play well

Some of these are optimistic I guess, but I am making a lot of these assumptions based on what I know of other teams prospects and of how our own prospects compare to one another. Being one of our stronger prospects should convert to being a stronger NHLer. Due to this, guys like Kassian and Jensen should have their names up there with the likes of Baertschi, Granlund, Armia, Tatar, Strome, Scheifele, etc. Our D is probably the strongest going forward, with guys like Tanev, Connauton, and Corrado coming up we should be comfortable on the back end. McNally is a darkhorse, as far as I'm concerned anyone going to Harvard for their undergrad isn't going to accept a reduced role, he'll make it if only for motivation.

I apologize for being so long winded, I have a passion for prospects.
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Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:17 AM

I see a lot of you guys are underestimating Gaunce and Schroeder. I can only assume it's due to smear articles by Gallagher - criticisms about Schroeder's size and Gaunce's skating. none of which are of real concern. Gaunce plays on a much larger international ice surface for home games, and is widely considered a 2 way forward. I can't see how you can be a poor skater while being effective on both sides of a larger ice surface. Small forwards make it in the NHL, many turn out to be very effective forwards; yes there are the success stories of St.Louis, Fleury, Parise and Cammalleri, but factor in guys like Desharnais, Ennis, and even younger guys are making it now. The factors that really matter are skill, motivation, and heart - factors that both Gaunce and Schroeder have.

Of note, the CSS rankings for both draft years had Schroeder and Gaunce much higher up than where they went. Schroeder was even ranked top 5 for NA skaters. Here are the NA skater rankings for their respective years:

2009, 2012

Let's not underestimate these two.
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Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:21 AM

Great post; enjoyable to hear someone who is both a believer and one who follows every Wolves game + our prospects beyond. And fun analogies...

Byfuglien does outweigh Kassian, but I think Kass works a lot harder! He is our most guaranteed to play guy; because he has the physical tools plus some talent. 2knd line PF

Jensen has the most upside and appears to have a nose for scoring 1st line potential, perhaps a 1 or 2 time all star.

Schroeder; I disagree. Its not a really qualified opinion, I have only seen him play a couple of times but I do not see the instincts that Hodgson had. To make up for his size he needs more than speed.

Mallet; I love your outlook on him; plus we need a goon ! :towel:
Gaunce seems destined for our stereotypical 3rd line center. Malhotra who can chip in? 2knd line potential when either Hank or Kess moves on.

Tanev? Everybody loves him, except me? When he was paired with Hamhuis, Sutter immediately targetted him and punished us for having a small guy on a stopper line. And he's not fast enough, nor does he carry the puck, or shoot well to be a top 4 guy. He's just an amazingly efficient composed player; who is fantastic when not overwhelmed by the top big athletes some teams can throw out there. great 3rd pair and fill guy!

Corrado; has what Tanev does plus better skills. He's your 2knd pair guy!

Connauton; Think Mathieu Schneider, just not at his peak. Great PP specialist, good as long as you can cover him the rest of the time.

Lack; great backup, would push for a starter role on many teams.

Would like to think Rodin could make it?

Not qulaified on the balance, maybe not here at all but... :bigblush:



Off the top, not going to make it:

Rodin, Blomstrand, Price, Hutton, Myron, Beattie, Labate, Tochkin, Friesen, Rai, Archibald, Honzik

NHLers:

Forwards:

Schroeder - 2nd line potential, should be a dynamic forward in the NHL
Jensen - 1st line scoring winger - great puck possesion, and a hell of a wrister
Kassian - 1st line power forward - he's got sick hands, goes hard to the net, at worse he's your Byfuglien on the powerplay
Sweatt - 3rd liner at best, his scoring has tailed off since his rookie season, he's more of a checker with speed
Mallet - 4th line centre and top rate goon, this kid can hit and isn't afraid to throw down
Gaunce - 2nd line centre, every time I see him play he reminds me of Couture, he dangles, has great vision of the ice
Grenier - 4th line with some upside

Defence:

Tanev - 2nd pairing, top rate shutdown defenseman (though he is starting to show some offense)
Connauton - 3rd pairing, power play guy, hell of a slapper
Corrado - 2nd pairing, steady all around guy (Hamhuis jr.)
McNally - 3rd pairing, offensive upside
Andersson - Depth defenseman, shut down type
Sauve - 3rd pairing, physical defenseman, protects his goaltender
Polasek- Depth defenseman, used for physicality

Goalies:

Lack - NHL starter, he's struggled this season, but he's got the body and the reflexes to become a top goaltender
Cannata -NHL backup, he's a technical goalie, reads the play well

Some of these are optimistic I guess, but I am making a lot of these assumptions based on what I know of other teams prospects and of how our own prospects compare to one another. Being one of our stronger prospects should convert to being a stronger NHLer. Due to this, guys like Kassian and Jensen should have their names up there with the likes of Baertschi, Granlund, Armia, Tatar, Strome, Scheifele, etc. Our D is probably the strongest going forward, with guys like Tanev, Connauton, and Corrado coming up we should be comfortable on the back end. McNally is a darkhorse, as far as I'm concerned anyone going to Harvard for their undergrad isn't going to accept a reduced role, he'll make it if only for motivation.

I apologize for being so long winded, I have a passion for prospects.


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Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:28 AM

Gotta love how you say that Kassian will be a second liner, and then compare him to Todd Bertuzzi... Yeah, he was a pretty alright second liner... What was it? 46 goals during the dead puck era?
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Posted 26 November 2012 - 06:02 AM

No it isn't, hes had 3 years since draft and hasn't had a single NHL game and doesn't come close to a point per game in the lower leagues. He is too small to play bottom 6, and not good enough to play top 6. He will be in the AHL for his entire career unless he learns to create plays like a sedin.


The kids went from living in Minnisota to Winnipeg then to Chicago. Has went from having Arniel, Noel, MacTavish, now back to Arniel as his coachs in 4 years.....

Schneider is a bust to right, took him what? 5-6 years to become a starter.

He was essentially a "free" pick since Gillis said he was gonna take Rodin in the first but nobody took Schroeder.
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