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#1 dudeone

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:02 PM

Walmart Workers Killed a Man on Sunday

By Adam Clark Estes | The Atlantic Wire – Sun, Nov 25, 2012

http://news.yahoo.co...9--finance.html

If there's anything that Walmart didn't need on Black Friday weekend, it was a jaw-dropping headline about somebody dying in their parking lot after a run-in with a couple of employees. Unfortunately for the big box retailer, that's exactly what happened on early Sunday morning at a store in Lithonia, Georgia.

It's a sad, simple story. An unidentified man allegedly stole two DVD players from the electronics department and left the store through the front door. Two Walmart employees and a contracted security guard chased him into the parking lot. A "physical altercation" took place, and apparently, the security guard put the man in a choke hold. Police arrived soon thereafter to find the three workers on top of the suspected shoplifter who was unresponsive and bleeding from his nose and mouth. The man was taken to the hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

"No amount of merchandise is worth someone's life," said Walmart spokesperson Dianna Gee in a statement. "Associates are trained to disengage from situations that would put themselves or others at risk." She added, "That being said, this is still an active investigation and we're working with police to provide any assistance." Walmart put the two employees on paid leave and fired the security guard.

Regardless of what happens at the end of that investigation, there's no way Walmart is going to come out of this one looking good. It truly sounds like this was a horrible accident, the kind that makes it hard to point fingers or figure out what went wrong. However, this incident also happened as thousands of Walmart workers nationwide were protesting poor treatment by their employers. Are the two things related? Only insofar as it adds up to a ton of bad press for a company long known to promote mass hysteria on Black Friday weekend. It's a problem that people are still dying at their stores, years after warnings signs like the Walmart employee who was trampled to death on Black Friday.

Thank God the new Black Friday trend is online shopping.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:08 PM

1. Eliminate Black Friday.
2. Eliminate shopping for the crap that you can easily order online.
3. Eliminate malls.
4. Eliminate Walmart.
5. Exchange high-fives.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:17 PM

1. Eliminate Black Friday.
2. Eliminate shopping for the crap that you can easily order online.
3. Eliminate malls.
4. Eliminate Walmart.
5. Exchange high-fives.


6. Profit
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:20 PM

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eliminate black friday because a thief died on sunday
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:20 PM

Feel bad for the security guard...Don't know what that idiot expected when he stole electronics...
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:22 PM

Not much to do with 'black Friday' judging from the report. When you steal from a store and get into an altercation that's your own fault. I have no remorse for the person who lost his life. You could start a fight and end up getting killed from a mere punch to the head. Any number of things could have killed this 'thief' and I don't fault the employees for defending their merchandise.

Of course the wall mart spokesperson 'values life more than merchandise' now playing white knight. Were there measures in place to prevent employees from chasing thieves and did they sign an agreement? That should have been done if what the spokesperson says is true. And why hire security in the first place if you don't expect them to subdue a thief? Talk about crapping on the 'little guy'.

You work for wall mart - don't expect them to have your back for anything. If you allow the thief to steal then a report comes down from the head office that revenue is down. You get fired. If you prevent those store losses then hurt the thief. You get fired. Ultimately it's the ones siting in the office who are always safe from any responsibility.

Edited by Special Ed, 27 November 2012 - 05:38 PM.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:39 PM

Simple way to avoid this....don't steal. No remorse for the thief. I do feel bad for the employees who will never forgive themselves.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:41 PM

Not much to do with 'black Friday' judging from the report. When you steal from a store and get into an altercation that's your own fault. I have no remorse for the person who lost his life. You could start a fight and end up getting killed from a mere punch to the head. Any number of things could have killed this 'thief' and I don't fault the employees for defending their merchandise.

Of course the wall mart spokesperson 'values life more than merchandise' now playing white knight. Were there measures in place to prevent employees from chasing thieves and did they sign an agreement? That should have been done if what the spokesperson says is true. And why hire security in the first place if you don't expect them to subdue a thief? Talking about crapping on the 'little guy'.

You work for wall mart - don't expect them to have your back for anything. If you allow the thief to steal then a report comes down from the head office that revenue is down. You get fired. If you prevent those store losses then hurt the thief. You get fired. Ultimately it's the ones siting in the office who are always safe from any responsibility.

It's not their merchandise, it's Wal-mart's, and this will cost them way more than the $100 worth of DVD players that were stolen.

Legal fees, deductibles, insurance premiums, and will likely settle out of court for an amount over and above what their insurance will cover. That isn't even to say what, if any, effect the negative press will have on patronage.

It's standard practice in the retail industry to not chase after thieves.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:43 PM

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:55 PM

It's not their merchandise, it's Wal-mart's, and this will cost them way more than the $100 worth of DVD players that were stolen.

Legal fees, deductibles, insurance premiums, and will likely settle out of court for an amount over and above what their insurance will cover. That isn't even to say what, if any, effect the negative press will have on patronage.

It's standard practice in the retail industry to not chase after thieves.


I used to manage a retail store. The policy was dont chase thieves outside the store. However the head office would continually send reports that store revenue was down when thieving was at its peak. The store would be down 4-500$/week on stolen items alone. What I'm saying is its a damned if you do, damned if you don't senario for employees.

There needs to be an agreement in place which better protects employees and puts more responsibility with the people who lead these companies. It's too easy for them to pass the buck onto people who are just trying to make a simple living on the 'front lines'.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 07:45 PM

Whats a DVD?
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 07:57 PM

While it's tragic a suspected robber got killed, the name of the store or the ongoing protest (how were sales on Black Friday, guys?) have nothing to do with what happened - completely irrelevant.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 08:03 PM

Simple way to avoid this....don't steal. No remorse for the thief. I do feel bad for the employees who will never forgive themselves.

sad thing is i support people that steal from big corporations rather then stealing from there fellow man/woman.
if someone i meet says they went to jail for stealing from my neighbor f' them if they say they went to jail for stealing from walmart ... whatever. stealing is not ok but as long as they don't break into my house or another persons house i can tolerate that.

as for the employees if it is anything like in canada i am sure they tell you to never put yourself or someone else at harm if someone steals from the store.

every place i have worked that had anything to do with public access to our environment and a potential to steal our money or merchandise i was always told give them what they want if they rob you, confront them if they steal from you but do not engage in any physical altercations with them if they do not comply. i was also told if i do try to prevent a robbery in a physical way or get into an altercation with someone stealing merchandise i will be terminated immediately.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:09 PM

sad thing is i support people that steal from big corporations rather then stealing from there fellow man/woman.
if someone i meet says they went to jail for stealing from my neighbor f' them if they say they went to jail for stealing from walmart ... whatever. stealing is not ok but as long as they don't break into my house or another persons house i can tolerate that.

as for the employees if it is anything like in canada i am sure they tell you to never put yourself or someone else at harm if someone steals from the store.

every place i have worked that had anything to do with public access to our environment and a potential to steal our money or merchandise i was always told give them what they want if they rob you, confront them if they steal from you but do not engage in any physical altercations with them if they do not comply. i was also told if i do try to prevent a robbery in a physical way or get into an altercation with someone stealing merchandise i will be terminated immediately.


So you support theft from big corporations like Walmart which results in higher prices for everyone. Great logic.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:23 PM

1. Eliminate Black Friday.
2. Eliminate shopping for the crap that you can easily order online.
3. Eliminate malls.
4. Eliminate Walmart.
5. Exchange high-fives.


I don't get it???
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 10:28 PM

Don't steal, because you will get beat up and die!
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 10:32 PM

It's not their merchandise, it's Wal-mart's, and this will cost them way more than the $100 worth of DVD players that were stolen.

Legal fees, deductibles, insurance premiums, and will likely settle out of court for an amount over and above what their insurance will cover. That isn't even to say what, if any, effect the negative press will have on patronage.

It's standard practice in the retail industry to not chase after thieves.


It also standard policy for banks not to fight or argue with bank robbers. You are suppose to just give the money to them.
For big retailers it is just a cost of doing business as they have theft insurance. Of course they pass the costs to consumers in their prices.

But for the small shops, it could be a big deal. Remember the guy who chased the thief in Toronto? The shopkeeper was the guy who was charged, not the thief.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 10:47 PM

sad thing is i support people that steal from big corporations rather then stealing from there fellow man/woman.
if someone i meet says they went to jail for stealing from my neighbor f' them if they say they went to jail for stealing from walmart ... whatever. stealing is not ok but as long as they don't break into my house or another persons house i can tolerate that.

as for the employees if it is anything like in canada i am sure they tell you to never put yourself or someone else at harm if someone steals from the store.

every place i have worked that had anything to do with public access to our environment and a potential to steal our money or merchandise i was always told give them what they want if they rob you, confront them if they steal from you but do not engage in any physical altercations with them if they do not comply. i was also told if i do try to prevent a robbery in a physical way or get into an altercation with someone stealing merchandise i will be terminated immediately.


The law does not discriminate between stealing from small shops or chain stores. Why should you? Both acts are considered "theft" and should be treated as so.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:00 PM

Whats a DVD?


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Edited by The Hornet, 27 November 2012 - 11:00 PM.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:53 PM

Who would even want to steal a DVD player. That guy was dumb. At least he should've stole a BD player or maybe an Apple product. I doubt he could sell it for even $10.
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:04 PM

So stupid for employees to chase after a thief and put themselves at risk. It's not even their stuff, it's the company's.
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