UN To Vote On Change of Palestine Status to Non-Member Observer On Thursday

[Special Ed]

Most of the pundits this morning seem to agree the Israeli and US prime concern is that if Palestine is "recognized" as a "State", they will then have the right to bring charges for war crimes against certain Israeli citizens ..

When a vast majority of the world agrees on statehood, despite US pressure to "toe the American line", it says a lot about the relative "fairness" of this issue ..

[Buddhas Hand]

Yup and then hopefully war crimes can also be held against certain Palestinian citizens...

[Buddhas Hand]

The vote , 138 voted YES ,9 voted NO , and 41 nations abstained .

That is a resounding statement by the world .

[Tearloch7]

Yup and then hopefully war crimes can also be held against certain Palestinian citizens...

[Ossi Vaananen]

When will the American war criminals be held accountable by the world? .. ever? .. "God"?? ..

[aeromotacanucks]

all countries in South America will vote "yes"

CONESUL and MERCOSUL agreement

[theminister]

I'd like to see Bush and Cheney stand trial. All it takes is Obama to recognize the ICC as having international jurisdiction. There is no way after what this pair has done that they should ever get to lead quiet lives after politics.

[DonLever]

The vote , 138 voted YES ,9 voted NO , and 41 nations abstained .

That is a resounding statement by the world .

[Tearloch7]

Canada is one of only nine countries to vote no. This sure is out of step with the rest of the world. We should have abstain like Great Britain.

[Common sense]

The funny thing is, the UN is such a spineless organization that any change done will have no effect on the ground war. Give the win to Abbas and Palestine; his people will still die in fighting the Israelis.

[Humble Rodent]

Palestinian Statehood: Canada Votes No At UN, Threatens Retaliation

It passed.

[Coda]

Canada is one of only nine countries to vote no. This sure is out of step with the rest of the world. We should have abstain like Great Britain.

[Hobble]

I am admittedly very ignorant when it comes to the troubles in the Middle East, but isn't this a good thing that could move to peace with the Palestinians having their own state?!?

[Humble Rodent]

So Harper is being criticized both for not following the crowd and for being a puppet? Make up your mind!

[Lancaster]

A bit off-topic....

Hopefully this will now make a better case for Taiwan to get Observer Status too.

[Ossi Vaananen]

I am admittedly very ignorant when it comes to the troubles in the Middle East, but isn't this a good thing that could move to peace with the Palestinians having their own state?!?

[Coda]

Yes if they are recognized as a state, then the attacks in Gaza would be viewed as international conflict. This could mean humanitarian intervention.

[taxi]

I am admittedly very ignorant when it comes to the troubles in the Middle East, but isn't this a good thing that could move to peace with the Palestinians having their own state?!?

[canucks since 77]

I am admittedly very ignorant when it comes to the troubles in the Middle East, but isn't this a good thing that could move to peace with the Palestinians having their own state?!?

[Coda]

Well the worry is that the Palestinians will use there new statehood to tie up the International Criminal Court with anti-Israeli prosecutions. The ICC has jurisdiction in three cases:1) where the person accused of committing a crime is a national of a state party (or where the person's state has accepted the jurisdiction of the Court);2) where the alleged crime was committed on the territory of a state party (or where the state on whose territory the crime was committed has accepted the jurisdiction of the Court); or3) where a situation is referred to the Court by the UN Security Council.So, in theory, the Palestinians could ratify the ICC and then refer Israel to it. Personally, I don't really think it's as big of an issue are people are making it out to be though. Firstly, the Palestinians state has no recognized territory. Also, they would expose themselves to being referred to the ICC.I'm pretty pro-Israeli, but support the move by the Palestinians for a few reasons. Firstly Abbas is specifically promoting a 2 state solution, which means recongnizing a Jewish state. It also will result in the Palestinians forming a responsible centralized government, which is much better than the current status quo, which includes a lot of random and uncontrolable militant groups. The amount of land people are arguing about at this point is so minuscule, the peace process itself seems to be the biggest obstacle. A series of unilateral moves might be a better choice at this time.