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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:07 PM

A 14-year-old Afghan girl was beheaded and killed in an attack by two men, one of whom apparently asked her to marry him.

The attack happened Tuesday, a day before new legislation was introduced in Congress calling on the U.S. government to take steps to help protect Afghan women and girls as the U.S. military prepares to exit Afghanistan.

Gasitina, a student, was beheaded in the Imam Sahib district of Kunduz province. The attack was initially reported by local media, and was confirmed by Amnesty International researcher Horia Mosadiq in an email.

The girl was fetching water when she was accosted, according to reports. The men, who have not been identified, were arrested by police. The girl and her parents had refused a marriage proposal by one of the men, according to the Amnesty International report.

This was the 15th deadly attack on a female victim in Kunduz in 2012, the human rights organization said.

"Amnesty International is very concerned about the violations against women in Afghanistan," said Cristina Finch, director of the organization's Women's Human Rights program.

Amnesty reported a similar incident in October, when a young woman was murdered and her throat slashed. In that case, the woman apparently refused to work as a prostitute.

Although it appears such attacks are increasing in frequency, it may be that the world outside Afghanistan is just beginning to hear about them, Finch said.

On Wednesday, Sen. Bob Casey, a Democrat from Pennsylvania, and Kay Bailey Hutchison, a Republican from Texas, introduced the Afghan Women and Girls' Security Promotion Act. If passed in its current form, the bill addresses how women's security will be monitored as the U.S. military withdraws from the country.

The bill also calls for improved gender sensitivity among Afghanistan's national security forces and recruitment of women within the ranks of those forces.

Amnesty International USA's executive director Suzanne Nossel applauded Casey and Hutchison for introducing the bill.

"As the United States military transitions out of Afghanistan, Afghan women's human rights continue to be at grave risk and demand urgent attention," Nossel said in a statement. "The fate of women will be a crucial determinant of that country's prospects for a stable and prosperous future."

In a report on Afghan violence against women, Amnesty International wrote that one of the justifications of the U.S. military going into the country in 2001 was to ensure the protection of human rights, including women's rights.

"More than 10 years after the overthrow of the Taliban, modest advances have been made for girls and women in Afghanistan," the report said. "But much remains to be done. Peace talks between the Taliban, Afghan government and the U.S. jeopardize even these modest gains as the U.S. searches for a quick exit."

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Probably the worst place on the planet to live as a woman.

In the 2nd murder they described, the young woman was killed for refusing to work as a prostitute. So how do they punish prostitutes? They murder them. So basically, work as a prostitute and we'll kill you. Refuse to work as a prostitute and we'll kill you.

Thank the Lord or whatever higher power you believe in, or just your lucky stars if you're an atheist that you were not born in that region of the world.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:12 PM

bass-ackwards....
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:13 PM

another violation of Human Rights...........come on UN and the ICC should get involved and try to prosecute these terrible man for their crimes against women
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:18 PM

Savages.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:20 PM

A 14-year-old Afghan girl was beheaded and killed in an attack by two men, one of whom apparently asked her to marry him.

The attack happened Tuesday, a day before new legislation was introduced in Congress calling on the U.S. government to take steps to help protect Afghan women and girls as the U.S. military prepares to exit Afghanistan.

Gasitina, a student, was beheaded in the Imam Sahib district of Kunduz province. The attack was initially reported by local media, and was confirmed by Amnesty International researcher Horia Mosadiq in an email.

The girl was fetching water when she was accosted, according to reports. The men, who have not been identified, were arrested by police. The girl and her parents had refused a marriage proposal by one of the men, according to the Amnesty International report.

This was the 15th deadly attack on a female victim in Kunduz in 2012, the human rights organization said.

"Amnesty International is very concerned about the violations against women in Afghanistan," said Cristina Finch, director of the organization's Women's Human Rights program.

Amnesty reported a similar incident in October, when a young woman was murdered and her throat slashed. In that case, the woman apparently refused to work as a prostitute.

Although it appears such attacks are increasing in frequency, it may be that the world outside Afghanistan is just beginning to hear about them, Finch said.

On Wednesday, Sen. Bob Casey, a Democrat from Pennsylvania, and Kay Bailey Hutchison, a Republican from Texas, introduced the Afghan Women and Girls' Security Promotion Act. If passed in its current form, the bill addresses how women's security will be monitored as the U.S. military withdraws from the country.

The bill also calls for improved gender sensitivity among Afghanistan's national security forces and recruitment of women within the ranks of those forces.

Amnesty International USA's executive director Suzanne Nossel applauded Casey and Hutchison for introducing the bill.

"As the United States military transitions out of Afghanistan, Afghan women's human rights continue to be at grave risk and demand urgent attention," Nossel said in a statement. "The fate of women will be a crucial determinant of that country's prospects for a stable and prosperous future."

In a report on Afghan violence against women, Amnesty International wrote that one of the justifications of the U.S. military going into the country in 2001 was to ensure the protection of human rights, including women's rights.

"More than 10 years after the overthrow of the Taliban, modest advances have been made for girls and women in Afghanistan," the report said. "But much remains to be done. Peace talks between the Taliban, Afghan government and the U.S. jeopardize even these modest gains as the U.S. searches for a quick exit."

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Probably the worst place on the planet to live as a woman.

In the 2nd murder they described, the young woman was killed for refusing to work as a prostitute. So how do they punish prostitutes? They murder them. So basically, work as a prostitute and we'll kill you. Refuse to work as a prostitute and we'll kill you.

Thank the Lord or whatever higher power you believe in, or just your lucky stars if you're an atheist that you were not born in that region of the world.


That is disgraceful. I definitely feel bad for women living there.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:23 PM

Barbaric country .. will only change if you wipe em out and start over .. when the Allies leave, it will revert faster than Karzay can flee to his bank accounts in the same institutions as Mittens Romney .. what a senseless waste of blood and treasure .. am so glad the Canadians are there propping up the warlords .. drug returns have never been higher .. Yay Canada!!
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:31 PM

I believe this is happening because of religous and culture of Aghan people........these stuff would never happen here.....until the culture is change that women right have more freedom........I believe this will continue to happen
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:44 PM

Barbaric country .. will only change if you wipe em out and start over .. when the Allies leave, it will revert faster than Karzay can flee to his bank accounts in the same institutions as Mittens Romney .. what a senseless waste of blood and treasure .. am so glad the Canadians are there propping up the warlords .. drug returns have never been higher .. Yay Canada!!


Instead of dropping bombs on them and wiping them out. How about educating them? Might just be crazy enough to work. Bombing the crap out of them sure hasn't worked. Would probably take a few generations though. That kind of stupidity has to be bred out.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:58 PM

What a complete joke...
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 04:01 PM

Instead of dropping bombs on them and wiping them out. How about educating them? Might just be crazy enough to work. Bombing the crap out of them sure hasn't worked. Would probably take a few generations though. That kind of stupidity has to be bred out.


They won't listen to anything. We try and educate them, they just kidnap the workers and kill them... We send them large amounts of money for education ect and more then half of it goes missing and the rest goes to the wrong places / people. We use force and well.... that has solved nothing except a new generation of kids wanting to blow themselves up. The place is a complete mess and won't be changing anytime soon.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 04:36 PM

We try and educate them


lol, you cant just invade a country and expect them to change the way things are run. Why would generations of their people listen to you? Because you came in with force? The only way it will change is if their own people are willing to do it themselves.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 04:40 PM

Imagine how different that place would be if Alexander had Greco-fied it when he had the chance.

Oh, that's right. It didn't work in Egypt, Babylon, Syria or Persia either.

Help us, Lebanon. You're Islam's only hope.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 05:03 PM

They won't listen to anything. We try and educate them, they just kidnap the workers and kill them... We send them large amounts of money for education ect and more then half of it goes missing and the rest goes to the wrong places / people. We use force and well.... that has solved nothing except a new generation of kids wanting to blow themselves up. The place is a complete mess and won't be changing anytime soon.


I didn't say it would change soon. In reality it will take generations. You have to start with the young and educate them. The older generations are a lost cause. You simply let Father Time take care of them.

Attitudes change slowly but they do change.

For example:

It was once considered cool to kidnap people, take them across the ocean and use them as slaves.

It took Gandhi's movement more than 30 years to convince the British to leave India.

African Americans were 2nd class citizens in their own country until gaining civil rights in 1964 (although shamefully some still treat them as 2nd class citizens).

It wasn't until 1971 that women in Switzerland gained the right to vote. Even then 34% voted against giving them that right.

Gay marriage is being legalized in many western nations. Was that even on the radar 25 years ago?

Change is possible even in the most backwards places.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 05:07 PM

Imagine how different that place would be if Alexander had Greco-fied it when he had the chance.

Oh, that's right. It didn't work in Egypt, Babylon, Syria or Persia either.

Help us, Lebanon. You're Islam's only hope.


Cyrus's creation outlived him whereas Alexander's Empire crumbled right after his death and was split into three parts by his generals.

Military-wise, Alexander was the better leader for accomplishing what he did in such a short span. However his father deserves credit for revolutionarizing the Macedonian army into the well-oiled fighting machine that ALexander took with him in his conquest.

Administration-wise, Cyrus outranks him because he created a multi-cultural, multi-ethic society which is a far harder and more beneficial task for human society. It's easier to destory than it is to build.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 05:11 PM

Cyrus's creation outlived him whereas Alexander's Empire crumbled right after his death and was split into three parts by his generals.

Military-wise, Alexander was the better leader for accomplishing what he did in such a short span. However his father deserves credit for revolutionarizing the Macedonian army into the well-oiled fighting machine that ALexander took with him in his conquest.

Administration-wise, Cyrus outranks him because he created a multi-cultural, multi-ethic society which is a far harder and more beneficial task for human society. It's easier to destory than it is to build.


Yes, yes, Phillip was awesome.

Your point?
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 05:12 PM

They won't listen to anything. We try and educate them, they just kidnap the workers and kill them... We send them large amounts of money for education ect and more then half of it goes missing and the rest goes to the wrong places / people. We use force and well.... that has solved nothing except a new generation of kids wanting to blow themselves up. The place is a complete mess and won't be changing anytime soon.


The change will come from within not from outside influences. In fact, we should let them be and evolve by themselves. Time is the only thing that will change it. I mean we went from a caveman era to a civilized era by enduring some hardships along the way. Canada is the country it is today not because of influences from the outside but from changes within. Don't you guys remember the slavery era and how black were treated?
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 05:14 PM

The change will come from within not from outside influences. In fact, we should let them be and evolve by themselves. Time is the only thing that will change it. I mean we went from a caveman era to a civilized era by enduring some hardships along the way. Canada is the country it is today not because of influences from the outside but from changes within. Don't you guys remember the slavery era and how black were treated?


The tribal cultures of central Asia are older than Europe.

Why did our culture change and theirs has regressed?
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 06:35 PM

The tribal cultures of central Asia are older than Europe.

Why did our culture change and theirs has regressed?


There's a pretty simple one-word answer but some people would get offended.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 06:46 PM

There's a pretty simple one-word answer but some people would get offended.


Not I.

We can't be afraid of thoughts and discourse.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 08:08 PM

I believe this is happening because of religous and culture of Aghan people........these stuff would never happen here.....until the culture is change that women right have more freedom........I believe this will continue to happen


I don't think this had anything to do with religion. Culture, most definitely (and perhaps mental illness).

Things like this have happened here if you recall that a person was decapitated on a Greyhound bus in 2008 for no reason whatsoever (and he didn't even turn down a proposal).

Let's also not forget about Luka Magnotta from earlier just this year.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 09:24 PM

The screwed up part is the guy will probably get off completely scott-free.
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 12:27 PM

So sad. She probably knew this could happen. She was strong enough to die rather than live a life of brutal abuse.
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 12:36 PM

Instead of dropping bombs on them and wiping them out. How about educating them? Might just be crazy enough to work. Bombing the crap out of them sure hasn't worked. Would probably take a few generations though. That kind of stupidity has to be bred out.

LMAO. You try "educating"/changing a Muslims ways, bahahahahahahah. Seriously?
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 01:02 PM

Instead of dropping bombs on them and wiping them out. How about educating them? Might just be crazy enough to work. Bombing the crap out of them sure hasn't worked. Would probably take a few generations though. That kind of stupidity has to be bred out.


Idealistic and unfortunately not realistic at all.


This is most definitely a cultural issue, and at the heart of it, stems from religion, or in this case, more specifically, Islam.
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 01:33 PM

Idealistic and unfortunately not realistic at all.


This is most definitely a cultural issue, and at the heart of it, stems from religion, or in this case, more specifically, Islam.


Kindly point out where in Islam does it state that one can behead a woman who refuses a marriage proposal.
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 02:04 PM

LMAO. You try "educating"/changing a Muslims ways, bahahahahahahah. Seriously?


Yes, I am dead serious. Even the most closed minded of individuals are capable of change, even yourself. It won't be easy and will take generations, Maybe you've lost faith in the human race. I haven't.


Idealistic and unfortunately not realistic at all.


That's what they said when people stood up and said slavery was wrong.

That's what they said when women demanded the right to vote.

That's what they said when African Americans demanded civil rights.

That's what they said when gay people wanted the right to get married.
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 02:05 PM

It's also what she said...
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 03:27 PM

Yes, I am dead serious. Even the most closed minded of individuals are capable of change, even yourself. It won't be easy and will take generations, Maybe you've lost faith in the human race. I haven't.




That's what they said when people stood up and said slavery was wrong.

That's what they said when women demanded the right to vote.

That's what they said when African Americans demanded civil rights.

That's what they said when gay people wanted the right to get married.


Those changes didn't occur in societies where you can be executed simply for not wearing a veil, marrying someone your parents disapprove, wearing the colour red... or whatever stupid reasons they have.

Places in the Western world, where those changes took place, there was already a system where people's rights, liberty, and freedom was guaranteed (just unfortunately wasn't enforced properly in many cases). The Magna Carta, the US Constitution/Bill of Rights, Bill of Petition, Déclaration des droits de l'homme et du citoyen, etc...... thus changes were able to be made since they're not gonna be killed for their opinions (for the most part).

Most of the Muslim world haven't had their own version of the Enlightenment phases (except Turkey), who knows if they will ever.
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 03:53 PM

LMAO. You try "educating"/changing a Muslims ways, bahahahahahahah. Seriously?


That isn't the Muslims way of living. Now you are just being ignorant. This can be because of the culture not really religion. I don't see Muslim Iranians beheading girls for refusing to get married with them. This is due to some cultural differences in a specific region. If this was a "Muslims" way of living then there would be 100s of beheading like this all over the world. If this had happened in Iran, the person who beheaded the girl would receive the death penalty.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 04:01 PM

Those changes didn't occur in societies where you can be executed simply for not wearing a veil, marrying someone your parents disapprove, wearing the colour red... or whatever stupid reasons they have.

Places in the Western world, where those changes took place, there was already a system where people's rights, liberty, and freedom was guaranteed (just unfortunately wasn't enforced properly in many cases). The Magna Carta, the US Constitution/Bill of Rights, Bill of Petition, Déclaration des droits de l'homme et du citoyen, etc...... thus changes were able to be made since they're not gonna be killed for their opinions (for the most part).

Most of the Muslim world haven't had their own version of the Enlightenment phases (except Turkey), who knows if they will ever.


There are variations of Islam and culture that you can't really say it is standard throughout the whole Muslim world. For example, a Muslim country might strictly enforce women to wear veils, masks and cover themselves up from head to toe while another country might only enforce them to only wear a head gear. Some Muslim countries are less conservative and more civilized than other countries. In Dubai, an Arab country full of Muslims has night clubs and beaches where women can wear bikinis and not worry about covering up or drink alcohol.
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