canuktravella Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 any ideas on good fourth liners free agents we can sign??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 hendrik kesler lapps and manny will be ok for centres this yr. next yr malhitra will be retired i suspect. schroeder might get a call up as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Alexander Cody Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 And retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 any ideas on good fourth liners free agents we can sign??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHansenFan Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Doubt he will. A little birdie told me Deb was keeping a close eye on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I think the Canucks should play a skill game but have a few legit tough guys in the wings. Maybe Brian McGrattan as a spare forward (tough SOB, had some skill in junior scoring 20 goals in 31 games one year in the OHL) and John Erskine (hasn't lost a fight for a few seasons, his last losses came at the hands of Shawn Thornton and David Koci. Not a bad 7th guy either). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Hank and Kes (barring injuries) are still going to be playing for a good 7-8 years at least, if I were Hodgson I wouldn't want to just be stuck as a 3rd liner for that long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primus099 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 7 - 8 years? Wha? Hank will 39/40 years old. Kesler will be 35/36. If they're still "playing" - and Hank almost certainly will not be - they will not be 1st line players. At that age, Kes would almost definitely be a 3rd line C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 7 - 8 years? Wha? Hank will 39/40 years old. Kesler will be 35/36. If they're still "playing" - and Hank almost certainly will not be - they will not be 1st line players. At that age, Kes would almost definitely be a 3rd line C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I think the Canucks should play a skill game but have a few legit tough guys in the wings. Maybe Brian McGrattan as a spare forward (tough SOB, had some skill in junior scoring 20 goals in 31 games one year in the OHL) and John Erskine (hasn't lost a fight for a few seasons, his last losses came at the hands of Shawn Thornton and David Koci. Not a bad 7th guy either). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I know the Pens won't let him go but Deryk Engelland on the 3rd pairing would be sick; he's tough, plays solid D and can actually put up some points from the back end (had 17 points, +10 last season). Dwight King would be sick to have as well, he's a monster to play against (6'3", 230) and is also pretty solid on both sides of the ice. He also had 2 GWG last playoffs as well, so he should be more than just a tough guy, but he'd fit the whole team toughness thing well (without the suspensions that someone like Raffi Torres has faced in his career). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I know the Pens won't let him go but Deryk Engelland on the 3rd pairing would be sick; he's tough, plays solid D and can actually put up some points from the back end (had 17 points, +10 last season). Dwight King would be sick to have as well (NOT that he'd be available), he's a monster to play against (6'3", 230) and is also pretty solid on both sides of the ice. He also had 2 GWG last playoffs as well, so he should be more than just a tough guy, but he'd fit the whole team toughness thing well (without the suspensions that someone like Raffi Torres has faced in his career). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I'd love to get Engelland but he would probably cost us Hansen or more, hard to justify. To Nashville 6th Round Pick To Vancouver Brian McGrattan To Washington Mason Raymond Andrew Alberts To Vancouver Joel Ward John Erskine Why this trade makes sense: Ward and Erskine are good character guys who just had awful seasons. Washington dumps a bit of salary and gets a potential 20 goal scorer in Raymond and slight upgrade defensively in Alberts. Vancouver gets a whole lot tougher. Sign Jim Vandermeer Sedin Sedin Burrows Both Kesler Higgins Hansen Malhotra Ward Weise Lapierre Kassian Schroeder (call-up) McGrattan (30 games) Hamhuis Bieksa Edler Garrison Ballard Tanev Vandermeer (60 games) Erskine (40 games) If you had Vandermeer, Erskine, McGrattan and Kassian playing in a game that would be a pretty tough lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Alexander Cody Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I can see Ballard playing no more than 50 games if Vandermeer does sign here and plays exceptionally well. Either that or Ballard becomes expendable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaches Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 hes minus 53 in his first two seasons should be ahl not bigs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowest common denominator Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I pretty much agree with everythng the op said. Gillis has made some good moves and being a former agent, it's obvious that the players enjoy playing here. That said, it's almost like he's trying to create a gourmet dinner from food bought from walmart. You can only make cheap things stretch so far. Letting Willie Mitchell go was the worst decision ever. What, we're gonna give up on a Defensive canadian stud because of injury but wwe'll let the One eyed Malhotra play as long as he wants? Doesn't add up. And Raymond should have been waived years ago if he couldn't be traded, watching him try to make something happen on the rush is like watching 2 monkeys try to frack a football. We need at least 1 big, nasty, mean , tough sob Dman to stake out territory in front of our net and a few nasty but skilled forwards to plant themselves in front of the oppositions net. We also need 1 brutal, ugly, nasty forward who will instill the fear of god into anyone who wants to even think about laying a finger on the twins. Santa, are you listening? If we can't get an enforcer then maybe the twins should have their eyes pried open and be forced to watch tapes of Pavel Bure taking care of biz until they understand that this is not a gentleman's game. Burrow's, Lapierre, Schneider, Hamhuis, Bieksa, hopefully Kassian are keepers. The rest have alot to prove and some have overstayed their welcome. Sedins are obviously awesome and they know how to take a crapkicking but come on, stand up for yourself for christ sake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowest common denominator Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Pretty much. Look at the Canuck injuries and look at the Bruins injury report; they had zero significant injuries. The odd broken nose or laceration, nothing that would terribly hinder your performance in any way. Now of course King of the BS or someone else will come here and say we're making excuses, but they're wrong. The above is a completely valid reason why we lost and it should not be ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted December 14, 2012 Author Share Posted December 14, 2012 Scottie your so friggin right especially about raymond. In my eyes these contracts have to be traded or retired 1. raymond 2.3 no grit useless perimeter deer legs 2. alberts 1.2 mill under used 7th d whats the point of having him unless u play him 3. malhotra 2.5 mill not the same after injury either retire him or use himas a 13th forward until his contracts up at end of yr. 4. ballard 4.2 mil ballard and coach dont get along. id rather fire a/v. hes absolutely killed ballards trade value. hes so predictable and never calls a time out ever. Is outcoached in playoffs every yr all he does in line juggle. 5. edler 3.25mill ufa next yr 50 point dman with lingering back injuries after surgery. can play amazing but also plays awful like last yrs play offs. Id rather trade him now before some team like wings offers him 7 mill a yr and we lose him for nuthing. for his rights if he signed with a team long term id want a young high drafted dman prospect like (ellis,reinhart, reilly) and a gritty forward like matt read and a first rounder. And yess teams would pay that or him especially phili and detroit. 6. Bobby luongo 5.3 mill amazing goalie but we dont need to all star goalies and schneider is younger. good luck on your next team these players would open up 18.75 mill in cap space in which we could adress grit and solidify our team and make them younger time to trim the fat. I could see corrado walking on next yr or this yr as a productive rookie in nhl in my eyes he has more up side than cam fowler did as a 18 yr old rookie hes solid defensively and on offense. what a steal he was 150 overall hamhuis bieska corrado garrison would be a great top four sauve could fit in as well as dmen we got in draft or from trades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Scottie your so friggin right especially about raymond. In my eyes these contracts have to be traded or retired 1. raymond 2.3 no grit useless perimeter deer legs 2. alberts 1.2 mill under used 7th d whats the point of having him unless u play him 3. malhotra 2.5 mill not the same after injury either retire him or use himas a 13th forward until his contracts up at end of yr. 4. ballard 4.2 mil ballard and coach dont get along. id rather fire a/v. hes absolutely killed ballards trade value. hes so predictable and never calls a time out ever. Is outcoached in playoffs every yr all he does in line juggle. 5. edler 3.25mill ufa next yr 50 point dman with lingering back injuries after surgery. can play amazing but also plays awful like last yrs play offs. Id rather trade him now before some team like wings offers him 7 mill a yr and we lose him for nuthing. for his rights if he signed with a team long term id want a young high drafted dman prospect like (ellis,reinhart, reilly) and a gritty forward like matt read and a first rounder. And yess teams would pay that or him especially phili and detroit. 6. Bobby luongo 5.3 mill amazing goalie but we dont need to all star goalies and schneider is younger. good luck on your next team these players would open up 18.75 mill in cap space in which we could adress grit and solidify our team and make them younger time to trim the fat. I could see corrado walking on next yr or this yr as a productive rookie in nhl in my eyes he has more up side than cam fowler did as a 18 yr old rookie hes solid defensively and on offense. what a steal he was 150 overall hamhuis bieska corrado garrison would be a great top four sauve could fit in as well as dmen we got in draft or from trades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowest common denominator Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 1) Management can't 'retire a player', just like that. And yes Manny will re-sign for at least one more year 2) That is a god awful top 4. Just because Corrado almost made Team Canada does mean he has a guaranteed spot in the top 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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