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#1 DonLever

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 02:07 AM

A group of killers, rapists, and theives is suing the federal government for neglecting their feelings of hopelessness and an inability to connect emotionally.

These five inmates are suing the federal government for $50,000, saying they have nervous shock because of a negligent justice system.

Among them is harvey Anders who was convcted for the 1982 sex slaying of 17 year old, Shirley Ann Johnson. The girl was raped and murdered in her mother's home, which was then set on fire.


Another inmate, Ernest Meigs, sexually assaulted women at gunpoint, including his ex-girlfriend for 28 hours, raping her repeatedly.

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The Federal Government tried to have the charges thrown out but the Judge, quoting Greek philosophy, stayed them for 6 months.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 02:08 AM

They should just be happy they're still alive.
Bunch of scumbags are getting it too good IMO.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:30 AM

Surprised the judge stayed this. Inmates are concerned about their feelings now? Did they consider the feelings of the women they raped, killed, and set ablaze? The fact that they get 3 meals a day and an hour or so outside is more than enough luxury.

What would they do with the 50 grand anyway if they're serving life sentences? This clearly isn't Guantanamo.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:49 AM

A group of killers, rapists, and theives is suing the federal government for neglecting their feelings of hopelessness and an inability to connect emotionally.

These five inmates are suing the federal government for $50,000, saying they have nervous shock because of a negligent justice system.

Among them is harvey Anders who was convcted for the 1982 sex slaying of 17 year old, Shirley Ann Johnson. The girl was raped and murdered in her mother's home, which was then set on fire.


Another inmate, Ernest Meigs, sexually assaulted women at gunpoint, including his ex-girlfriend for 28 hours, raping her repeatedly.

http://www.calgarysu...happy-jail-life

The Federal Government tried to have the charges thrown out but the Judge, quoting Greek philosophy, stayed them for 6 months.


They should be happy to get free food and shelter thanks to tax payers. Their victims should sue their asses for unhappiness too.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:51 AM

Surprised the judge stayed this. Inmates are concerned about their feelings now? Did they consider the feelings of the women they raped, killed, and set ablaze? The fact that they get 3 meals a day and an hour or so outside is more than enough luxury.

What would they do with the 50 grand anyway if they're serving life sentences? This clearly isn't Guantanamo.


If they were convicted in some other countries, most of them would've been executed by now.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:58 AM

Anders Breivik just met his Canadian counterparts...

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:51 AM

Anders Breivik just met his Canadian counterparts...



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Posted 04 December 2012 - 05:04 AM

I think you left out an important bit........... they don't even have lawyers on their side yet.


The judge gave them six months to lawyer up and explain “the who, what, when and where (for) relevant events leading to the complaint.”
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 05:40 AM

the f---ed up thing is they'll probably win...lol

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 06:17 AM

If they were convicted in some other countries, most of them would've been executed by now.

Honestly, I don't know why we don't have the death penalty for extremely violent individuals. Obviously give them the opportunity to go through an appeals process first, but why we pay substantial amounts of money to keep convicted serial killers in prison for the rest of their lives is incomprehensible. Would anyone really be upset if Pickton was put to death?

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 06:25 AM

Honestly, I don't know why we don't have the death penalty for extremely violent individuals. Obviously give them the opportunity to go through an appeals process first, but why we pay substantial amounts of money to keep convicted serial killers in prison for the rest of their lives is incomprehensible. Would anyone really be upset if Pickton was put to death?


It's cheaper to keep them incarcerated and sometimes the innocent get put to death.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 07:01 AM

^ also, who's talking about serial killers?
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:05 AM

Jail is a punishment and, yes, you feel hopeless and lose the ability to connect if you're being punished and subjected to it. That's the point - so that you appreciate the freedom you had and work toward staying out of trouble. At least that's how I see it.

Poor babies. How about the families of those living with the torment of what they did to them? I'm pretty sure they feel the same at times, but they did nothing to deserve it.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:15 AM

Makes me think they are just doing this to torment their victims and their families.
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:17 AM

Makes me think they are just doing this to torment their victims and their families.


pretty cynical view. I think they are bored and looking for a payday myself.
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:20 AM

pretty cynical view. I think they are bored and looking for a payday myself.


Well they are pretty cynical people.
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:49 AM

These guys are not going to garner a lot of sympathy from anyone. Don't want to spend your life in a jail where people don't care about your feelings? Don't rape, kill, and burn people in their homes. Pretty simple, really.

Honestly, I don't know why we don't have the death penalty for extremely violent individuals. Obviously give them the opportunity to go through an appeals process first, but why we pay substantial amounts of money to keep convicted serial killers in prison for the rest of their lives is incomprehensible. Would anyone really be upset if Pickton was put to death?


The death penalty is actually more expensive than keeping these people in jail, and there is always the terrible risk of executing an innocent person.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:14 AM

An example of how judges constantly fail us.
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:24 AM

Boo frickety hoo

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:25 AM

They aren't owed anything. Maybe the pains of imprisonment are too harsh and changes need to be made but financial compensation after the fact should not be part of the discussion. We all pay taxes to some degree and does anyone here want to consider that their tax dollars are going to address the emotional suffering of convicted criminals? When are we going to start practicing common sense as a society?

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:42 AM

I would rage, but whatever I would say; everyone would be thinking it anyways.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 10:51 AM

When are we going to start practicing common sense as a society?

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:07 AM

Judge should give them the option of cyanide pills if the luxury of prison isn't sufficient.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:50 AM

Here is the decision. This claim was framed as a civil suit and the federal government brought a motion to dismiss. The judge found the action as framed did not comply with the Rules of the court and required the Plaintiffs to show that they had exhausted the usual mediation and grievance procedures before considering if the claims were sufficiently founded to allow the action to stand. And like courts generally do with unrepresented plaintiffs, they give them a great deal of leeway.


Accordingly, the Court concludes in respect of the pleadings, including the draft amended Statement of Claim:

a) the Statement of Claim is inadequate; it fails to set out the specific factual circumstances giving rise to a claim; it fails to set out the standard required; it fails to set out how and in what respect the Defendant’s officers failed to meet that standard;

b) the Statement of Claim, however, is not so inadequate that leave to amend should be denied;

c) no party can be added by simply filing an amended Claim; leave of the Court must be sought;

d) the Plaintiffs should seek competent legal representation;

e) the parties should calmly act in good faith and follow appropriate mediation and grievance procedures before seeking the assistance of the Court.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:34 PM

I find it gratifying that these murderous scumbags are adequately suffering for their crimes.
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