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Posted 04 December 2012 - 07:20 PM

Canada votes against UN motion calling on Israel to open up nuclear program to inspection

Canada was on the losing side of a vote after the UN General Assembly overwhelmingly approved a resolution calling on Israel to quickly open its nuclear program for inspection and backing a high-level conference to ban nuclear weapons from the Middle East which was just cancelled.

All the Arab nations and Iran had planned to attend the conference in mid-December in Helsinki, Finland, but the United States announced on Nov. 23 that it wouldn’t take place, citing political turmoil in the region and Iran’s defiant stance on nonproliferation. Iran and some Arab nations countered that the real reason for the cancellation was Israel’s refusal to attend.

The resolution, approved Monday by a vote of 174-6 with 6 abstentions, calls on Israel to join the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty “without further delay” and open its nuclear facilities to inspection by the International Atomic Energy Agency. Those voting “no” were Israel, the U.S., Canada, Marshall Islands, Micronesia and Palau.

Resolutions adopted by the 193-member General Assembly are not legally binding but they do reflect world opinion and carry moral and political weight.

Israel refuses to confirm or deny it has nuclear bombs though it is widely believed to have a nuclear arsenal. It has refused to join the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, or NPT, along with three nuclear weapon states — India, Pakistan and North Korea.

The Arab proposal to create a weapons-of-mass-destruction-free zone in the Mideast, and to pressure Israel to give up its undeclared arsenal of perhaps 80 nuclear warheads, was endorsed at an NPT conference in 1995 but never acted on. In 2010, the 189 parties to the 1970 treaty called for convening a conference in 2012 on the establishment of a WMD - free zone in the Middle East.
The resolution, which was approved by the assembly’s disarmament committee before the conference was cancelled, noted the decision to hold it “with satisfaction.”

But Israel has long said there first must be a Mideast peace agreement before the establishment of a Mideast zone free of weapons of mass destruction. The region’s Muslim nations argue that Israel’s undeclared nuclear arsenal presents the greatest threat to peace in the region.

The Israeli government had no immediate comment on Monday’s General Assembly vote.
Last week, the General Assembly upgraded the Palestinians to that of a nonmember observer state, endorsing an independent Palestinian state in the West Bank, east Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip.
Just before Monday’s vote, Iranian diplomat Khodadad Seifi told the assembly “the truth is that the Israeli regime is the only party which rejected to conditions for a conference.” He called for “strong pressure on that regime to participate in the conference without any preconditions.”
Israeli diplomat Isi Yanouka said his country has continuously pointed to the danger of nuclear proliferation in the Mideast, singling out Iran and Syria by name.

“All these cases challenge Israel’s security and cast a dark shadow at the prospect of embarking on a meaningful regional security process,” he said.

“The fact that the sponsors include in this anti-Israeli resolution language referring to the 2012 conference proves above all the ill-intent of the Arab states with regard to this conference,” Yanouka said.

Syrian diplomat Abdullah Hallak told the assembly his government was angry that the conference wasn’t going to take place because of “the whim of just one party, a party with nuclear warheads.”
“We call on the international community to put pressure on Israel to accept the NPT, get rid of its arsenal and delivery systems, in order to allow for peace and stability in our region,” he said.
The conference’s main sponsors are the U.S., Russia and Britain. British Foreign Office Minister Alistair Burt has said it is being postponed, not cancelled.

While the United States voted against the resolution, it voted in favour of two paragraphs in it that were put to separate votes. Both support universal adherence to the NPT, and call on those countries that aren’t parties to ratify it “at the earliest date.” The only “no” votes on those paragraphs were Israel and India.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/12/04/canada-votes-against-un-motion-calling-on-israel-to-open-up-nuclear-program-to-inspection/



Israel rejects UN call for nuclear transparency



Israel has rebuffed a UN call to adhere to the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and open itself to international inspectors, calling the suggestion a "meaningless mechanical vote" of a body that “lost all its credibility regarding Israel.”

­In a 174-6 vote, the United Nations General Assembly demanded in a non-binding call that Tel Aviv join the NPT “without further delay," in an effort to create a legally binding nuclear-free Middle East.
Washington, Israel's strongest ally, surprised no one by voting against the resolution – but did approve two paragraphs that were voted on separately, which called for universal adherence to the NPT and for all non-signatory governments to join.

The UN body "has lost all its credibility regarding Israel with these types of routine votes that are ensured passage by an automatic majority and which single out Israel," Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor was quoted by Jerusalem Post as saying.

The Assembly's call on Israel comes days after a large majority of its members voted to grant Palestine statehood state status and just weeks after the an escalation of violence between Gazans and Israel's occupation forces. Palmor stressed, however, that since the NPT vote takes place annually, the Palestinian victory is not connected.

Israel is not a signatory to the 1970 Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty, the main objective of which is to is to prevent the spread of nuclear weapons and weapons technology. Despite near-universal acknowledgement that Tel Aviv maintains a powerful nuclear arsenal, Israeli officials promote a position claiming their government will “not be the first country to introduce weapons into the Middle East.”

The Middle East's only democracy possesses as many as 400 nuclear warheads, along with various ways to deliver them. It is also one of four countries known to have nuclear weapons that are not recognized as Nuclear Weapons States by the NPT. The others are India, North Korea and Pakistan.
Israel follows a policy known as "nuclear opacity," which it sees as a deterrent against its neighbors.
The timing of the Israeli dismissal of the call for transparency comes less than two weeks after Washington's withdrawal from December's nuclear-free Middle East conference, to be held in Finland and sponsored by Russia, the UK and the US.

State Department officials said the international effort is being postponed because of “a deep conceptual gap [that] persists in the region on approaches towards regional security and arms control arrangements,” and because “states in the region have not reached agreement on acceptable conditions” for the meeting, quotes the IPS.

But many blamed Israel's refusal to accept the terms as the real reason for postponing the regional nuclear drive.

“The truth is that the Israeli regime is the only party which rejected to conditions for a conference,” Iranian diplomat Khodadad Seifi told the General Assembly on Monday, as he called for “strong pressure on that regime to participate in the conference without any preconditions.”
The meeting is now expected to be held early next year.

There are currently five nuclear-weapon-free zones in the world, according to the UN: Latin America and the Caribbean, the South Pacific, South-East Asia, Central Asia, and Africa.

http://rt.com/news/israel-rejects-un-nuclear-transparency-298/


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Posted 04 December 2012 - 07:50 PM

This is bad.

Canada is looking bad; it should be the just the Harper Govt and not the rest of Canada that looks bad.

Its like theyre trying to make Canada a rogue state or something. Its ridiculous.
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 07:52 PM

Wow, funny how the whole western world is shouting for nuclear transparency when directed towards Iran, but Israel is too good for it?!?

Again, I'm a little irked we tried voting against this.
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 07:55 PM

Good. True friend is someone who is there in time of need. The vote count was 174 to 5 + Israel. Another 6 did not cast a vote.

Good for US, Canada and those 3 islands that I didn't know were countries, Palau, Micronesia, and the Marshall Islands.
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 07:58 PM

Hang onto yer chairs, folks .. there will be a swirling of Neo-con "spin" so severe as to challenge a centrifuge!! ..
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:13 PM

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:43 PM

Hang onto yer chairs, folks .. there will be a swirling of Neo-con "spin" so severe as to challenge a centrifuge!! ..


It is not really a neo-con issue because the United States voted no. Obama is not a neo-con, nor the Democrats, yet the Americans voted no. And many of the posters on this forum are not neo-cons, yet support Israel no matter what. You know who these people are.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:16 AM

Welcome to HarperlandTM - one of the world's great banana republics, where ~70-80% have no voice.

If we ever see another election, I hope we can put an end to this madness. This is embarrassing.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:20 AM

It is not really a neo-con issue because the United States voted no. Obama is not a neo-con, nor the Democrats, yet the Americans voted no. And many of the posters on this forum are not neo-cons, yet support Israel no matter what. You know who these people are.


I expected the "right-wing-nuts" here to react on CDC by now ... was not a comment on the USA .. :rolleyes:
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:27 AM

I expected the "right-wing-nuts" here to react on CDC by now ... was not a comment on the USA .. :rolleyes:


The usual supporters of Israel on this forum seem to be silent today.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 01:22 AM

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Remember that thread a few months back about the gitch that would eliminate the stench of a really bad fart without affecting the robustness of the noise nor the relief of pressure? Well, I've come to the opinion that for the most part, Canada under it's current rule represents to pretty much the rest of the world, a simlar filter for the US . . .

We take the stench of their decisions, policies and general directions then repeat them all filtered and nice-like so the festering stinking globalist crap comes out pretty much smelling nicer and providing less of a negative affect on the gag reflex.

In short and with great thanks to Stephen Harper and his conservative hoard, we, my good friend, are the fart-catchers of the planet.

Oh la laaaaaaa . . . I feel a burrito rounding the bend twixt stomach and colon . . . this one's gonna be an oh-bammer!!!!!!

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 03:30 AM


Not even surprised. Wonder when they are going to change Canada's name to Israel. Seems like Israel can do no wrong in Canada's eye. Really hate the current Canadian government's foreign policy and the buffoons Harper and Baird who are running the show.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 03:41 AM

Good. True friend is someone who is there in time of need. The vote count was 174 to 5 + Israel. Another 6 did not cast a vote.

Good for US, Canada and those 3 islands that I didn't know were countries, Palau, Micronesia, and the Marshall Islands.


You mean good for them kissing Israel's ass??

Fact of the matter is, the US government is overtaken by Jews (Zionists) and Prime Minister of Canada is a Jew (might as well be).
Who really voted against UN's motion in favor of Israel? Canada, USA and who?? Palau? Micronesia? Marshall Islands?? Now am just waiting for someone to respond that all the other countries in the world that did not vote against UN's motion are 3rd world or dictatorship countries or countries that people don't want to live in lol!
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:04 AM

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This isn't about kissing Israel's a$$ it's about kissing America's. We vote how they vote, that's just the way it goes.

It's really no different than what has gone on throughout most of our history. We're so afraid of pissing them off, that it makes us toss aside our own values and beliefs.

We need a prime minister that can make Canada, Canada again. And not America Jr.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:30 AM

I'm so tired of this government fellating Israel. It's sad when you're worse than the US in that regard.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:53 AM

Canada, what are you doing?
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:17 AM

We will definitely be less sycophantic to the mighty US of A when Harper's Clown Car is kicked out of office .. Pierre NEVER kowtowed to the Mighty Yank .. B)
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 11:51 AM

Very bad for Israel in World PR. However it is very easy to see why Israel and its Allies don't want to reveal if Israel has nuclear weapons or not:

1. If Israel doesn't have nuclear weapons it will embolden the surrounding countries to invade once again and try to wipe the country off the map.
2. If Israel has nuclear weapons it will provide some world support to countries like Iran to get nuclear weapons as well, giving those countries huge leverage against Israel and enabling Iran to annihilate Israel by nuke (if they don't change their existing policy).

Perhaps it is not coincidence that the last time Israel's surrounding countries tried to wipe it out was in 1973, around the time Israel has been rumoured to acquire nukes.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:01 PM

Did anyone even bother to post here when N.Korea and Iran refused inspections? Yawn...

“The fact that the sponsors include in this anti-Israeli resolution language referring to the 2012 conference proves above all the ill-intent of the Arab states with regard to this conference,” Yanouka said.

Syrian diplomat Abdullah Hallak told the assembly his government was angry that the conference wasn’t going to take place because of “the whim of just one party, a party with nuclear warheads.”

Syria complaining LOL. The Arab states are just trying to disarm Israel so they can attack again. Fat chance on that happening and the UN seems pretty useless. Can't even stop genocides. I agree that the UN has lost credibility.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:33 PM

Did anyone even bother to post here when N.Korea and Iran refused inspections? Yawn...

“The fact that the sponsors include in this anti-Israeli resolution language referring to the 2012 conference proves above all the ill-intent of the Arab states with regard to this conference,” Yanouka said.

Syrian diplomat Abdullah Hallak told the assembly his government was angry that the conference wasn’t going to take place because of “the whim of just one party, a party with nuclear warheads.”

Syria complaining LOL. The Arab states are just trying to disarm Israel so they can attack again. Fat chance on that happening and the UN seems pretty useless. Can't even stop genocides. I agree that the UN has lost credibility.


So you want to include Israel with North Korea and Iran? .. rogue nations? .. part of the "Axis Of Evil"? .. so be it then .. it is official .. Israel is a rogue nation, thus all its acts are deemed to be "terrorist acts" .. then again, whats new? .. :picard:
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:52 PM

So you want to include Israel with North Korea and Iran? .. rogue nations? .. part of the "Axis Of Evil"? .. so be it then .. it is official .. Israel is a rogue nation, thus all its acts are deemed to be "terrorist acts" .. then again, whats new? .. :picard:


The point is that it's only news worthy on CDC if it has to do with Israel. And Israel has been attacked more than North Korea and Iran COMBINED. In fact is there even a country in the world who has been attacked more and by as many countries than Israel has? But yeah if 5 nations attack one there must be a reason for it. Even if its nations like Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Iraq, Algeria and Libya ect. If such a 'responsible' group of nations attack Israel it must be justified.... Just kind of like a UN vote...Lol

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 01:53 PM

Very bad for Israel in World PR. However it is very easy to see why Israel and its Allies don't want to reveal if Israel has nuclear weapons or not:

1. If Israel doesn't have nuclear weapons it will embolden the surrounding countries to invade once again and try to wipe the country off the map.
2. If Israel has nuclear weapons it will provide some world support to countries like Iran to get nuclear weapons as well, giving those countries huge leverage against Israel and enabling Iran to annihilate Israel by nuke (if they don't change their existing policy).

Perhaps it is not coincidence that the last time Israel's surrounding countries tried to wipe it out was in 1973, around the time Israel has been rumoured to acquire nukes.


Its widely......widely known that Israel HAS nuclear weapons. There nuke program began somewhere in the 50's. JFK knew about them and vehemently opposed Israel having them. The weapons were produced using the Dimona reactor.

The US DIA admits Israel's nukes at anywhere from 60-80, although most gov't assume they have more than that... They have Intercontinental launch capability. The Jericho 3 Missile has a 5000km radius.



CIA reveals: We said in 1974 that Israel had nuclear weapons

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/cia-reveals-we-said-in-1974-that-israel-had-nuclear-weapons-1.237049




Syria complaining LOL. The Arab states are just trying to disarm Israel so they can attack again. Fat chance on that happening and the UN seems pretty useless. Can't even stop genocides. I agree that the UN has lost credibility.


Bahaahah, yeah literal david vs goliath. The UN isn't even asking Israel to disarm there nuclear weapons, simply to at least acknowledge their existence..


Even if they did disarm them (which they wont), Israel military technology (thanks to the taxpayers of the USA) is on par with the top militaries of the world.

Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon and any other Arab ally has ZERO chance of taking out Israel. ZERO.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 02:03 PM

Harper is standing up for Canada on the international stage!
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 03:12 PM

There goes the neighborhood(Gaza)again.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 03:49 PM

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The point is that it's only news worthy on CDC if it has to do with Israel. And Israel has been attacked more than North Korea and Iran COMBINED. In fact is there even a country in the world who has been attacked more and by as many countries than Israel has? But yeah if 5 nations attack one there must be a reason for it. Even if its nations like Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Iraq, Algeria and Libya ect. If such a 'responsible' group of nations attack Israel it must be justified.... Just kind of like a UN vote...Lol


But is there another country in the the world that is allowed to build settements on occupied territory or have a country created without consultation of the MAJORITY of the population in that region? Is there another country created without a referendum like Israel? Once you do that you are asking for conflict.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 03:56 PM

But is there another country in the the world that is allowed to build settements on occupied territory or have a country created without consultation of the MAJORITY of the population in that region? Is there another country created without a referendum like Israel? Once you do that you are asking for conflict.


The great thing about being a human, is our ability to reason , but reason it don't work when no one cares .

You are using logic and reason , something so many human being's seem incapable of doing .
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:22 PM

But is there another country in the the world that is allowed to build settements on occupied territory or have a country created without consultation of the MAJORITY of the population in that region? Is there another country created without a referendum like Israel? Once you do that you are asking for conflict.


Why is it allowed in the first place? Who allowed it? Ahhh the great UN. How about start blaming the body that allowed the so called ilegal state in the first place. But judging from this thread many people support the UN now. So the decision to create Israel must have been a good one. Lol.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 05:45 PM

Why is it allowed in the first place? Who allowed it? Ahhh the great UN. How about start blaming the body that allowed the so called ilegal state in the first place. But judging from this thread many people support the UN now. So the decision to create Israel must have been a good one. Lol.


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Posted 05 December 2012 - 06:03 PM

But is there another country in the the world that is allowed to build settements on occupied territory or have a country created without consultation of the MAJORITY of the population in that region? Is there another country created without a referendum like Israel? Once you do that you are asking for conflict.


Firstly that description does not fit Israel.

It, however, does fit Canada. Canada did not consult the aboriginal people before infecting them with smallpox and taking their land. We continue to build on land that we in their eyes occupy.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 06:06 PM

Firstly that description does not fit Israel.

It, however, does fit Canada. Canada did not consult the aboriginal people before infecting them with smallpox and taking their land. We continue to build on land that we in their eyes occupy.


You mean the "aboriginal" people who migrated here from Siberia and drove the herds of "deer and antelope" at play, away? .. :rolleyes:
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