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#121 Coda

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:39 PM

Actually no goods enter through Egypt legally. Did you not read it?

http://en.wikipedia....ian_territories


I was referring to the illegal tunnels...used to ship the weapons and fuel I referenced. And BTW...why criticize Israel for inspection of goods into Gaza when Gaza's other neighbour Egypt won't legally allow any humanitarian aid in at all?



[/size]Anything else you can't be bothered to look up yourself?


Just that mythical plan to take in Mein Kampf to take over the world. Thanks for the reference: as I thought, the Israelis retain funds to pay for services they provide in Gaza. Makes sense, right?
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:43 PM

Actually no goods enter through Egypt legally. Did you not read it?

http://en.wikipedia....ian_territories


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Anything else you can't be bothered to look up yourself?


You're information is outdated. My point was that Gaza has a border with Egypt too, so they take responsibility for the blockade too. Secondly, altough the Egyptians do completely close off imports at points (funny I thought it was the evil Jews looking to kill all the Gazans who were responsible for this alone), the crossing does open at points for goods and people, including right now:

http://www.maannews.....aspx?ID=543828

http://english.farsn...p?nn=9107123544
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:08 PM

I never said the Palestinians were committing genocide...my comments were originally directed at the surrounding Arab nations' failed attempts to wipe out Israel. You are the one who changed the topic to the Palestinians, and it so happens that many Palestinian leaders and clerics advocate the genocide of the Jews in Israel. Obviously they have not been able to cary out such a genocide due to the Israelis stopping them...Israel being a much stronger body than Palestine at the moment.

It is you who failed in reading comprehension.


So after posting a link to a site that is run by an israeli propaghanda specialist , that has radical palestinian clerics expounding their views on killing jews , you are backing away from your claims that the palestinians are commiting genocide , and you claim i have failed at reading comprehension .
It is like having an discussion with a 3 year old child , reason and logic are thrown out the door
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:12 PM

So after posting a link to a site that is run by an israeli propaghanda specialist , that has radical palestinian clerics expounding their views on killing jews , you are backing away from your claims that the palestinians are commiting genocide , and you claim i have failed at reading comprehension .
It is like having an discussion with a 3 year old child , reason and logic are thrown out the door


No: try again!
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:16 PM

No: try again!


No to what ?

That you are going to use logic and reason.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:20 PM

It's not unlike Canada to vote for the minority position but it sure is when we are in league with the Yanks.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:57 PM

Harper warns Israel on settlements:

http://www.theglobea...article6016546/

but....but... I thought Harper was secretly a Jew who like to wrap himself in the Israeli flag, and that made his nose big.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 04:16 PM

Harper warns Israel on settlements:

http://www.theglobea...article6016546/

but....but... I thought Harper was secretly a Jew who like to wrap himself in the Israeli flag, and that made his nose big.


Taxi , the whole world has been on their case over this , and rightly so .

Both sides are child like in their behaviour .
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 05:40 PM

Harper warns Israel on settlements:

http://www.theglobea...article6016546/

but....but... I thought Harper was secretly a Jew who like to wrap himself in the Israeli flag, and that made his nose big.


lol a week later.... after majority of the world, including our allies in Europe and the US had voiced there displeasure at this move.

The Harper gov't decides to try and save some face.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 06:00 PM

lol a week later.... after majority of the world, including our allies in Europe and the US had voiced there displeasure at this move.

The Harper gov't decides to try and save some face.


Weak is as weak does! .. Harper is a turd and dinna get me started on Petey MacKay ..
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 06:21 PM

^^^ From the same article above:

Continued funding for the Palestinians, which has amounted to $300-million over the past five years, is by no means guaranteed. Mr. Baird said future aid projects will be assessed on their merits. Decisions to fund or not fund will not be influenced by the UN vote, he maintained.


Hmm... quite a bit of money to be spending on someone that you are promoting genocide towards.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 07:50 PM

^^^ From the same article above:

Hmm... quite a bit of money to be spending on someone that you are promoting genocide towards.



The Congressional Research Service (CRS), in an Oct. 3, 2003 report titled "Israel: U.S. Foreign Assistance" stated the following:

"Israel is not economically self-sufficient, and relies on foreign assistance and borrowing to maintain its economy. In addition to U.S. assistance, it is estimated that Israel receives about $1 billion annually through philanthropy, an equal amount through short- and long- term commercial loans, and around $1 billion in Israel Bonds proceeds.

Since 1985, the United States has provided $3 billion in grants annually to Israel. Since 1976, Israel has been the largest annual recipient of U.S. foreign assistance, and is the largest cumulative recipient since World War II.

U.S. aid to Israel has some unique aspects, such as loans with repayment waived, or a pledge to provide Israel with economic assistance equal to the amount Israel owes the United States for previous loans. Israel also receives special benefits that may not be available to other countries, such as the use of U.S. military assistance for research and development in the United States, the use of U.S. military assistance for military purchases in Israel, or receiving all its assistance in the first 30 days of the fiscal year rather than in 3 or 4 installments as other countries do.

In addition to the foreign assistance, the United States has provided Israel with $625 million to develop and deploy the Arrow antimissile missile (an ongoing project), $1.3 billion to develop the Lavi aircraft (cancelled), $200 million to develop the Merkava tank (operative), $130 million to develop the high energy laser anti-missile system (ongoing), and other military projects.


In FY2000 the United States provided Israel an additional $1.2 billion to fund the Wye agreement, and in FY2002 the United States provided an additional $200 million in anti-terror assistance. For FY2003, the Administration requested $600 million in economic, $2.1 billion in military, and $60 million in migration resettlement assistance. For FY2004, the Administration requested $480 million in economic, $2.16 billion in military, and $50 million in migration resettlement assistance."


http://israelipalest...?questionID=594


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 08:12 PM

What do you mean exactly? It seems they have been quite incompetent at wiping out Israel. Don't you agree? Are you objecting to the word Genocide? What word would you prefer?


The way you sensationalize and over exaggerate things is over the top. Genocide? Wipe out Israel off the map?? Are you really serious? The only thing Palestinians and Arabs want is some of that land that Israel stole. This thing about killing Jews or wiping Israel out just shows me that you are buying into the Israeli propaganda and nothing will change your mind regarding this issue. If the "Arab world" wanted Israel off the map, it would have already been done which would've caused WWIII.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 08:32 PM

Harper warns Israel on settlements:

http://www.theglobea...article6016546/

but....but... I thought Harper was secretly a Jew who like to wrap himself in the Israeli flag, and that made his nose big.


Yeah, after everyone in the world including the Obama administration voiced their displeasure towards Israel's action. Harper was doing some damage control and trying to show that he isn't kissing Israel's behind. I bet Harper called Nitanyahoo afterwards to apologize and give reasons to cover up the special bond they've made.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 09:24 PM

I love how some people here are telling Harper how to do his job. Remind us all here what your current jobs and qualifications are. You should run for prime minister and make the difference!
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 09:35 PM

I love how some people here are telling Harper how to do his job. Remind us all here what your current jobs and qualifications are. You should run for prime minister and make the difference!


Mmmmmmmmmmmm .. we pay his wages .. he is a reflection of us as a country .. he is turd ..
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 09:38 PM

The way you sensationalize and over exaggerate things is over the top. Genocide? Wipe out Israel off the map?? Are you really serious? The only thing Palestinians and Arabs want is some of that land that Israel stole. This thing about killing Jews or wiping Israel out just shows me that you are buying into the Israeli propaganda and nothing will change your mind regarding this issue. If the "Arab world" wanted Israel off the map, it would have already been done which would've caused WWIII.


Evidently you haven't read this thread very carefully. Many Arabs have wanted to wipe Israel off the map in the past, and many still do today. They tried and failed. I have bolded some of the more blatant statements below if you don't have time to read them all.

Posted Image Arab Threats Against Israel
In the weeks leading up to the Six Day War, Arab leaders repeatedly threatened Israel with annihilation. Together with Egypt's ejection of United Nations forces, the closing of the Straits of Tiran, and the massing of troops on Israel's northern and southern borders, the fiery rhetoric created a state of existential fear in Israel.
Egypt
"Our aim is the full restoration of the rights of the Palestinian people. In other words, we aim at the destruction of the State of Israel. The immediate aim: perfection of Arab military might. The national aim: the eradication of Israel." – President Nasser of Egypt, November 18, 1965
"Brothers, it is our duty to prepare for the final battle in Palestine." – Nasser, Palestine Day, 1967
"Our basic objective will be the destruction of Israel. The Arab people want to fight . . . The mining of Sharm el Sheikh is a confrontation with Israel. Adopting this measure obligates us to be ready to embark on a general war with Israel." – Nasser, May 27, 1967
"We will not accept any ... coexistence with Israel. ... Today the issue is not the establishment of peace between the Arab states and Israel .... The war with Israel is in effect since 1948." – Nasser, May 28, 1967
"The armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon are poised on the borders of Israel . . . . to face the challenge, while standing behind us are the armies of Iraq, Algeria, Kuwait, Sudan and the whole Arab nation. This act will astound the world. Today they will know that the Arabs are arranged for battle, the critical hour has arrived. We have reached the stage of serious action and not declarations." – Nasser, May, 30, 1967 after signing a defense pact with Jordan's King Hussein
"We are now ready to confront Israel .... The issue now at hand is not the Gulf of Aqaba, the Straits of Tiran, or the withdrawal of UNEF, but the ... aggression which took place in Palestine ... with the collaboration of Britain and the United States." – Nasser, June 2, 1967
"Under terms of the military agreement signed with Jordan, Jordanian artillery co-ordinated with the forces of Egypt and Syria is in a position to cut Israel in two at Kalkilya, where Israeli territory between the Jordan armistice line and the Mediterranean Sea is only twelve kilometers wide ... ." – El Akhbar newspaper, Cairo, May 31, 1967
Cairo Radio Statements:
May 19, 1967: "This is our chance Arabs, to deal Israel a mortal blow of annihilation, to blot out its entire presence in our holy land"
May 22, 1967: "The Arab people is firmly resolved to wipe Israel off the map"
May 25, 1967: "The Gulf of Aqaba, by the dictum of history and the protection of our soldiers, is Arab, Arab, Arab."
May 25, 1967: "Millions of Arabs are ... preparing to blow up all of America's interests, all of America's installations, and your entire existence, America."
May 27, 1967: "We challenge you, Eshkol, to try all your weapons. Put them to the test; they will spell Israel's death and annihilation."
May 30, 1967: "With the closing of the Gulf of Akaba, Israel is faced with two alternatives either of which will destroy it; it will either be strangled to death by the Arab military and economic boycott, or it will perish by the fire of the Arab forces encompassing it from the South from the North and from the East."
May 30, 1967: "The world will know that the Arabs are girded for battle as the fateful hour approaches."
Jordan
"All of the Arab armies now surround Israel. The UAR, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Yemen, Lebanon, Algeria, Sudan, and Kuwait. ... There is no difference between one Arab people and another, no difference between one Arab army and another." – King Hussein of Jordan,after signing the pact with Egypt May 30, 1967
Iraq
"The existence of Israel is an error which must be rectified. This is our opportunity to wipe out the ignominy which has been with us since 1948. Our goal is clear – to wipe Israel off the map. We shall, God willing, meet in Tel Aviv and Haifa." – President Abdel Rahman Aref of Iraq, May 31, 1967
Palestinians
"D-Day is approaching. The Arabs have waited 19 years for this and will not flinch from the war of liberation." – Ahmed Shukairy, Chairman of the Palestine Liberation Organization, May 27, 1967
"This is a fight for the homeland – it is either us or the Israelis. There is no middle road. The Jews of Palestine will have to leave. We will facilitate their departure to their former homes. Any of the old Palestine Jewish population who survive may stay, but it is my impression that none of them will survive." – Shukairy, June 1, 1967
"We shall destroy Israel and its inhabitants and as for the survivors – if there are any – the boats are ready to deport them." – Shukairy, June 1, 1967, speaking at a Friday sermon in Jerusalem
Syria
Syria's forces are "ready not only to repulse the aggression, but to initiate the act of liberation itself, and to explode the Zionist presence in the Arab homeland. The Syrian army, with its finger on the trigger, is united.... I as a military man, believe that the time has come to enter into a battle of annihilation." – Syrian Defense Minister Hafez Assad, May 20, 1967
"Our two brotherly countries have turned into one mobilized force. The withdrawal of the UN forces ... means 'make way, our forces are on their way to battle.'" – Foreign Minister Makhous on his return from Cairo

Others

"The freedom of the homeland will be completed by the destruction of the Zionist entity and the expulsion of the Americans and the British from the region." – Algerian Prime Minister Houari Boumedienne

"We want war. War is the only way to settle the problem of Israel. The Arabs are ready." – Yemeni Foreign Minister Salam



So obviously you are mistaken on several points: the Arabs did want to wipe out Israel, tried, failed, and therefore can be declared incompetent at genocide.

Edited by Coda, 06 December 2012 - 09:39 PM.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 09:41 PM

Mmmmmmmmmmmm .. we pay his wages .. he is a reflection of us as a country .. he is turd ..


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 09:42 PM

I love how some people here are telling Harper how to do his job. Remind us all here what your current jobs and qualifications are. You should run for prime minister and make the difference!


I would have sided with you because it's so easy to take shots at someone, but he isn't representing Canadian interests at all.

Does it seem hard to imagine?

When practically the whole world voted in favour of Palestine being recognized as a non-member observer role (which basically is kind of meaningless to an even more meaningless "peacekeeping" organization like the UN), Canada had to suck up to the Yanks because the Yanks said they (Palestine) shouldn't be a non-member observer.

I can't comment about how Harper runs the country nationally, but internationally, he is a disgrace. What an insult to people who serve the country for the pursuit of peace at home and abroad.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 09:44 PM

...et Chretien + Martin sont merde


Oui, oui .. et Harper sont merde chien .. :lol: .. that's right .. bow wow feces ..
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:42 PM

I love how some people here are telling Harper how to do his job. Remind us all here what your current jobs and qualifications are. You should run for prime minister and make the difference!


The people hold the power to elect him. The people also have the right to have an opinion of him or what he is or isn't doing right. Its our government and it reflects badly on all Canadians when he is pulling off BS moves.
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 02:15 PM

The right wing of the real Conservative Party of Canada (aka Freedom Loving Reformed Christian Fundies) is mobilizing against Prime Minister Harper as he has a hidden agenda to turn the Christian Dominion of Canada into another Jewish state.

Be vigilant Canada.

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Here is Harper concluding a secret agreement with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for Canada to become a vassal state of Israel in May 2010. And the proof? Just check out Canada's recent voting record at the UN supporting Israel:

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The quid pro quo for the agreement is that Israel must adopt ice hockey as its national sport.

And Israel agreed but stipulated that all games must be played on outdoor rinks. Harper was reportedly wildly enthusiatic since as he said "it was a return to our historical Canadian roots."

In December 2011 Harper gave us a peek at his hidden agenda as reported by The Canadian Press:

Harper and his wife Laureen were greeted by hundreds of cheering supporters at the Calgary Jewish Community Centre as part of the celebration of Hanukkah.

"We unfortunately look around the world and ... don't forget about the terrible trials and threats that the Jewish people still face in so many countries including in the homeland, the state of Israel," said Harper, who wore a traditional yarmulke.

"That's something we always remember, we always make sure as a government that we make it clear we stand by the Jewish people and we stand by Israel."


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Posted 12 December 2012 - 04:35 PM

The right wing of the real Conservative Party of Canada (aka Freedom Loving Reformed Christian Fundies) is mobilizing against Prime Minister Harper as he has a hidden agenda to turn the Christian Dominion of Canada into another Jewish state.

Be vigilant Canada.

Posted Image

Here is Harper concluding a secret agreement with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for Canada to become a vassal state of Israel in May 2010. And the proof? Just check out Canada's recent voting record at the UN supporting Israel:

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The quid pro quo for the agreement is that Israel must adopt ice hockey as its national sport.

And Israel agreed but stipulated that all games must be played on outdoor rinks. Harper was reportedly wildly enthusiatic since as he said "it was a return to our historical Canadian roots."

In December 2011 Harper gave us a peek at his hidden agenda as reported by The Canadian Press:

Harper and his wife Laureen were greeted by hundreds of cheering supporters at the Calgary Jewish Community Centre as part of the celebration of Hanukkah.

"We unfortunately look around the world and ... don't forget about the terrible trials and threats that the Jewish people still face in so many countries including in the homeland, the state of Israel," said Harper, who wore a traditional yarmulke.

"That's something we always remember, we always make sure as a government that we make it clear we stand by the Jewish people and we stand by Israel."



Care to provide proof of your first statement - or was it just another of your SS like religious bashes?
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 04:42 PM

The right wing of the real Conservative Party of Canada (aka Freedom Loving Reformed Christian Fundies) is mobilizing against Prime Minister Harper as he has a hidden agenda to turn the Christian Dominion of Canada into another Jewish state.

Be vigilant Canada.

Posted Image

Here is Harper concluding a secret agreement with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for Canada to become a vassal state of Israel in May 2010. And the proof? Just check out Canada's recent voting record at the UN supporting Israel:

Posted Image

The quid pro quo for the agreement is that Israel must adopt ice hockey as its national sport.

And Israel agreed but stipulated that all games must be played on outdoor rinks. Harper was reportedly wildly enthusiatic since as he said "it was a return to our historical Canadian roots."

In December 2011 Harper gave us a peek at his hidden agenda as reported by The Canadian Press:

Harper and his wife Laureen were greeted by hundreds of cheering supporters at the Calgary Jewish Community Centre as part of the celebration of Hanukkah.

"We unfortunately look around the world and ... don't forget about the terrible trials and threats that the Jewish people still face in so many countries including in the homeland, the state of Israel," said Harper, who wore a traditional yarmulke.

"That's something we always remember, we always make sure as a government that we make it clear we stand by the Jewish people and we stand by Israel."


I found that quite hilarious. Thank you.
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 04:51 PM

Care to provide proof of your first statement - or was it just another of your SS like religious bashes?

Time to ask Santa for one of these it seems...

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 06:09 PM

Time to ask Santa for one of these it seems...

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I got it :P

*pats self on back*
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2.41 season GAA isn't very impressive. Let's not get into playoffs and his SV%.

Cory Schneider is the next Patrick Roy.


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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:57 PM

Time to ask Santa for one of these it seems...

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Way to derail the thread...
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:00 PM

Way to derail the thread...

Or perhaps ask Santa to adjust your meds.
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 06:27 PM

Or perhaps ask Santa to adjust your meds.


Train kept a rollin...

Are you going to answer my question or just waste my time?
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:42 PM

Train kept a rollin...

Are you going to answer my question or just waste my time?

What question?
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