First you say "wiping Israel off the map is such a nonsensical statement" and then you go on to spout all the reasons Israel should not exist.
Actually, I did not list all the reasons Israel should not exist. I only listed one reason, which is according to Orthodox Judaism itself. The state of Israel according to Orthodox Judaism cannot legally (i.e. Judaic law) exist until the Jewish messiah returns. This is merely one example of how zionism is vehemently in opposition to Judaism.
The zionists even were so desperate on this notion they needed to concoct and fabricate translations of Ahmedinejad's speeches to push this nonsensical agenda of theirs.
1. Israel exists now.
2. Various Arab leaders in the region have repeatedly stated since Israel was founded that it should be wiped off the map...or some equivalent statement usually referring to killing Jews.
3. Various Arab countries and factions have repeatedly tried to wipe Israel off the map.
1. Murder, rape, robbery, oppression and tyranny also exist now so I'm really not sure what your point is.
2. Here is another example of a typical zionist mind-trick...somehow 'wiping Israel off the map' means 'killing Jews'. It is like saying that Orthodox Jews who have been calling for the immediate dismantling of Israel since its creation are also referring to 'killing Jews'. Nonsensical indeed.
Meanwhile, Jews have lived in that land throughout history (often in peace and security) when there was no such thing as any Israel and there was no Israel to 'wipe off the map' in the first place. This little ignored fact of course poses a bit of a problem to your perspective.
Meanwhile, zionists have historically oppressed and murdered Jews to further the cause of the zionists and their state.
I write this article for the same reason I wrote my book: to tell the American people, and especially American Jews, that Jews from Islamic lands did not emigrate willingly to Israel; that, to force them to leave, Jews killed Jews...About 125,000 Jews left Iraq for Israel in the late 1940s and into 1952, most because they had been lied to and put into a panic by what I came to learn were Zionist bombs. (Naeim Gilady, former zionist soldier - "The Jews of Iraq")
I know that Arab leaders can say some pretty foolish and stupid things at times but I don't remember hearing them say that all men women, children and cattle should be slaughtered. And I don't believe they were saying anything along the lines you suggest prior to the birth of zionism. You think zionism might be the problem here?
Meanwhile zionist leaders (such as Chabad-Lubavitch Rabbi) have declared that all Arab men, women, children and even cattle should be killed. In fact there are numerous gut-wrenching zionist quotes along these lines.
3. Meanwhile, the zionist state has continuously expanded its borders and 'wiped' parts of other nations 'off the map', including all of Palestine.
Perhaps next you will say: "If you have a milkshake and I have a straw...and my straw reaches all the way into your milkshake
" you might accuse us of wiping trying to wipe your milkshake 'off the map'!
It would appear that "wiping Israel off the map" is far from a nonsensical statement. Actually you appear to support it. Your statement "on the other hand zionists have completely wiped Palestine off the map" is bizarre. Palestine is a geographical region. Political movements do not wipe geographical regions off the map.
It is most definitely a nonsensical statement suited only for the feeble-minded who are completely ignorant of current events and history. And if I support anything it is wiping zionism off the map, absolutely.
It really is quite simple: if the aim of a political movement is to supplant a nation overtop an already existing nation or geographical area, thereby 'wiping it off the map' then that is what they are seeking to accomplish. And once this is accomplished you're going to tell us "no such thing"...riiiiight, just like "no such thing as a Palestinian" (straight out of the book of zionist Golda Meir, rather, Golda Mabovich...you know the old Eastern European/Khazar zionist name change trick).
Palestine was never a nation or a country under the Arabs, and Palestinian Arabs never identified themselves as a people group until 1967.
Well, while this is most untrue, even if we were to assume you are correct - an illegitimate group of totally external people supplanting an artificial and illegitimate nation overtop another nation or geographical area through state-sponsored terrorism, tyranny and brutality; thereby wiping them off the map over a number of decades may lead to the actual and rightful inhabitants and residents to identify themselves with much louder and more prominent vociferation.
The only times in the last 3000 years when the region of Palestine was actually an independent nation or a country was as the country of Israel.
...but only after wiping Palestine off the map.
Edited by DarthNinja_S19Blade, 14 December 2012 - 11:21 PM.