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#1 nuckin_futz

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 02:08 PM

Canada reached a milestone, of sorts, this week.

Queue the applause — according to the Statistics Canada population clock, the Great White North now has over 35 million inhabitants.

It's an impressive figure considering that in 1982 we only had a population of 25 million -- that's a 40 per cent jump in 30 years, which solidifies Canada as the fastest growing nation in all of the G8.

Statistics Canada's Laurent Martel told the Toronto Star that the level of growth is primarily due to our liberal immigration system which allows approximately 250,000 immigrants to enter Canada every year.

"This immigration rate is one of the highest in industrialized countries," he said.

"It's twice what the U.S. receives every year."

Martel predicts that with similar levels of growth in the future, Canada's population will reach the 40 million mark by 2026 and 50 million by 2054.

While environmentalists and anti-immigration types will always complain that that's too many people, there are others who argue that our aging workforce necessitates more immigration — a lot more.
Last week, PostMedia News obtained an internal government review suggesting that immigration levels should increase to 337,000 by 2018.

According to the report, the boost "is needed to balance the labour market and is based on economic projections that take into account things like unemployment rates."

Last Spring, the Globe and Mail published an impressive series of columns about immigration and Canada's labour shortages and called for Canada to double its level of economic migration.

A professor in one of the series' columns even suggested that we aim for a population of 100 million people:


"Prof. Studin argues that the country should set its sights on swelling to as many as 100 million people.
This new Canada would become a far more influential consumer market, a more diverse and imaginative producer and a much more robust and self-sustaining culture. Its voice would become more prominent in international affairs.
When history looks back, what seemed like a temporary western labour shortage could turn out to be the impetus that prompted Canada to embrace its destiny as a nation of immigration."

Canada's historical population levels:
1952: 14,459,000
1962: 18,583,000
1972: 22,219,000
1982: 25,118,000
1992: 28,377,000
2002: 31,373,000
2012: 35,001,593

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 02:18 PM

I'm going to get flamed but I'll say it anyway:

I see A LOT of pregnant women around, baby boom imminent?
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 02:29 PM

I fully support allowing immigration of younger people in their working prime to come to Canada. Not too sure about allowing their parents to immigrate with them. I know many old people who have done this. They get citizenship, collect on OAS and go back to their home country to spend it (allowed to leave country for half of the year and remain eligible to collect).
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 02:40 PM

I'm going to get flamed but I'll say it anyway:

I see A LOT of pregnant women around, baby boom imminent?


That's because they are so big and so round.

Ba-dum-dum-tish.
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 02:52 PM

After having visited many over-populated countries, I find that there is a certain level of service, safety, sanitation, and overall quality of life that comes with living in a more modestly populated nation. While it is great to have a growing population and economy I hope that it doesn't mean that our Canadian values will suffer as a result.
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 03:40 PM

The population is really still only about 25 million still when you factor out the Canadians-of-convenience...
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 03:47 PM

Just as I suspected. Not only does everyone want to live here, they're trying to...
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 03:54 PM


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Posted 07 December 2012 - 04:42 PM

I fully support allowing immigration of younger people in their working prime to come to Canada. Not too sure about allowing their parents to immigrate with them. I know many old people who have done this. They get citizenship, collect on OAS and go back to their home country to spend it (allowed to leave country for half of the year and remain eligible to collect).


While doing just that (a no-on over 40 and you better be a star immigrant at that age) would be a good start we unfortunately wouldn't be able to handle the shock of turning off the immigration ponzi scheme that is unsustainable.

Mind you, should we receive a nasty economic shock (the threat of which is very real) we won't need to set immigration rules as no one will want to come then.
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 04:45 PM

After having visited many over-populated countries, I find that there is a certain level of service, safety, sanitation, and overall quality of life that comes with living in a more modestly populated nation. While it is great to have a growing population and economy I hope that it doesn't mean that our Canadian values will suffer as a result.


Some might not miss the way Vancouver used to be but I sure do. I miss concepts like a forest where Coquitlam plateau is, farms where Maple ridge is, and the thought that a mailman and his secretary wife (my aunt and uncle) can actually afford a three bedroom house on a leafy street a short walk from skytrain and commercial drive without having to get a million dollar offshore cash infusion.
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 05:16 PM

Some might not miss the way Vancouver used to be but I sure do. I miss concepts like a forest where Coquitlam plateau is, farms where Maple ridge is, and the thought that a mailman and his secretary wife (my aunt and uncle) can actually afford a three bedroom house on a leafy street a short walk from skytrain and commercial drive without having to get a million dollar offshore cash infusion.


Personally, I prefer the socially and financially divided portions of the city, the unfriendly citizens, the outrageous living costs, and the complete cultural divide that people mistake for "multiculturalism"
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 05:37 PM

I've seen a lot more cities ruined by immigration than I have improved by it, especially when some of those immigrants are more like politically supported demographic invaders.


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Posted 07 December 2012 - 05:59 PM

Immigrants are always attracted to the "cesspools" of a country because of "false" opportunities .. those that settle in the "drainage fields" seem much happier and adjust/assimilate faster, from my experience ..
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 06:16 PM

Immigrants are always attracted to the "cesspools" of a country because of "false" opportunities .. those that settle in the "drainage fields" seem much happier and adjust/assimilate faster, from my experience ..


Vancouver didn't fit anyone's definition of a cesspool before the immigration floodgates opened.

If you weren't there, believe me its shocking how much the current version of the city sucks.

But whatever, massive immigration's all good as long as it helps pay for all those Boomer entitlements and enriches their investment portfolios, right?
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 06:18 PM

I've seen a lot more cities ruined by immigration than I have improved by it, especially when some of those immigrants are more like politically supported demographic invaders.


Care to give some examples? Also, how old are you? What cities have you had the chance to see rise and then fall due to immigration? How many generations Canadian are you?
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 06:26 PM

Not really a shock that Canada is the fastest growing G8 nation. The other G8 countries have peaked economically a while back, whereas Canada is still pretty much an adolescent in comparison.

I do think that Canada should attract more 1st world professionals rather than just cheap labourers. I have friends who are teachers and pharmacists in Japan can't immigrate here unless they're willing to be a dishwasher or something for 3 years.
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:42 PM

Not really a shock that Canada is the fastest growing G8 nation. The other G8 countries have peaked economically a while back, whereas Canada is still pretty much an adolescent in comparison.

I do think that Canada should attract more 1st world professionals rather than just cheap labourers. I have friends who are teachers and pharmacists in Japan can't immigrate here unless they're willing to be a dishwasher or something for 3 years.


That seems to be the biggest deterrent to increasing professional immigrants .. we fail to accept their credentials .. we need to streamline our process' to expedite certification ..
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:18 PM

That seems to be the biggest deterrent to increasing professional immigrants .. we fail to accept their credentials .. we need to streamline our process' to expedite certification ..

That will not be happening because the provinces control certification. Heck even moving province to province can be a serious impediment in a number of professions even for Canadians who received domestic training and credentialing in other provinces.
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:19 PM

Not really a shock that Canada is the fastest growing G8 nation. The other G8 countries have peaked economically a while back, whereas Canada is still pretty much an adolescent in comparison.

I do think that Canada should attract more 1st world professionals rather than just cheap labourers. I have friends who are teachers and pharmacists in Japan can't immigrate here unless they're willing to be a dishwasher or something for 3 years.

That is false.
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:32 PM

That will not be happening because the provinces control certification. Heck even moving province to province can be a serious impediment in a number of professions even for Canadians who received domestic training and credentialing in other provinces.


How 19th Century of us .. :picard:
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 09:13 PM

That is false.


Not literally forced to be dishwashers, but they wouldn't be able to ply their trade. Thus they would be forced to take other jobs in the mean time.

Immigrating to Canada and having your credentials recognized is needlessly too complicated.
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 10:22 PM

After having visited many over-populated countries, I find that there is a certain level of service, safety, sanitation, and overall quality of life that comes with living in a more modestly populated nation. While it is great to have a growing population and economy I hope that it doesn't mean that our Canadian values will suffer as a result.


We're buzz lightyears away from being overpopulated.
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 10:24 PM





Oh man.. So funny... This thread ends here for me.
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 12:29 AM

According to craigslist's rants and raves section, immigrants are ruining the country for whites. They're not going to like this info...
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 06:56 AM

But whatever, massive immigration's all good as long as it helps pay for all those Boomer entitlements and enriches their investment portfolios, right?

Either they pay for it or you do, sonny.
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 10:44 AM

Care to give some examples? Also, how old are you? What cities have you had the chance to see rise and then fall due to immigration? How many generations Canadian are you?


Vancouver and Miami are probably the two most severe examples I'm familar with, but there's so many more across NA and Europe it would be easier to list the ones where mass immigration has been beneficial.
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 10:50 AM

Either they pay for it or you do, sonny.


I would have gladly paid if I had been given a choice, not only would it have been nice not to have all these exploitative opposing cultures around but it would have been cheaper in the long run.
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 05:29 PM

According to craigslist's rants and raves section, immigrants are ruining the country for whites. They're not going to like this info...


Too bad.
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 05:56 PM

How 19th Century of us .. :picard:

Just part of our Constitution - provinces have exclusive jurisdiction over such matters under the "property and civil rights in the province" head of power at s. 92(13).

Exclusive Powers of Provincial Legislatures


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92. In each Province the Legislature may exclusively make Laws in relation to Matters coming within the Classes of Subjects next hereinafter enumerated; that is to say,

13. Property and Civil Rights in the Province.


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Posted 08 December 2012 - 06:03 PM

Not literally forced to be dishwashers, but they wouldn't be able to ply their trade. Thus they would be forced to take other jobs in the mean time.

Immigrating to Canada and having your credentials recognized is needlessly too complicated.

It depends on the individual situation. I have been involved in this since the mid-1970's.
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