Erik Karlsson Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Our prospects and development system is terrible right now. Kassian looks disinterested half time time in the AHL and doesn't play defense. He's no Bertuzzi where he can just cherrypick all game long. If Gillis doesn't get some legit prospects in the Luongo,Schneider trade then I'll be pissed. Jensen looks good in the Swedish Leage but who knows how he will fare in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler's Nose Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 He needs to get his priorities straight, learn what he wants to do with his career and what he's playing for. I could see him being great, hopefully he doesn't make us regret the Hodgson trade.. Sick of hearing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoolander Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Half the time, he isn't even playing on the same line as Schroeder...our only decent centre. If he was playing on a line like... Kreider-Granlund-Kassian, or a mix of any other skilled/strong players, his point production would most likely double. Being the biggest offensive weapon on the ice, but having almost no one else to match your skill on your team, makes you an easy target to defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaBestPlaceOnEarth Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Kassian isn't supposed to be absolutely torching opponents with his offense, that's not the kind of player the Canucks acquired him to be. I think he's been playing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disisdayear Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 So he's not the answer to our first line anymore? His inconsistency has been the book on him, I was a little concerned when we got him because motivation is almost impossible to teach. I see him as a third or forth line player on the Canucks. The real problem is because of the expectations that are being put on him (and I have no idea where these expectations come from) he will probably be viewed as a frailer when in fact there is nothing wrong with being a third or forth line player. May not have been the best trade but that's hardly his fault. Edit: you should add a third option to the poll, something like. "No the expectations were just to high for him" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surtur Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I voted yes. I honestly think that while the AHL's brand of hockey is a little different, that's no excuse. Even if it's just the AHL he should be workin' his butt off to prove that he's ready. I didn't like the Hodgson trade, but I decided to withhold complete judgement until we saw if he (Kassian) actually performed or not. So far he hasn't done much in either the NHL or the AHL. He'd better get his butt in gear if he wants to prove me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 i am sure your number one on his list to prove anything to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 If he has huge gaps of not much productivity/struggles for much of the season then yes it should be a concern. How will he translate any success to the NHL if he AHL is too tough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaku Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Don't write off Kassian before he gets the chance to prove himself. He may be struggling in the AHL right now, but like previously stated, he cannot do this all by himself, he needs support, and the team is not providing any. If he was on a team that had players that were a PPG and he wasn't producing, then i'd be worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Don't write off Kassian before he gets the chance to prove himself. He may be struggling in the AHL right now, but like previously stated, he cannot do this all by himself, he needs support, and the team is not providing any. If he was on a team that had players that were a PPG and he wasn't producing, then i'd be worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerines Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Buffalo would never take the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerines Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Half the time, he isn't even playing on the same line as Schroeder...our only decent centre. If he was playing on a line like... Kreider-Granlund-Kassian, or a mix of any other skilled/strong players, his point production would most likely double. Being the biggest offensive weapon on the ice, but having almost no one else to match your skill on your team, makes you an easy target to defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaku Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 LOL...... So that's why he's benched, because the team is not providing him support? It has nothing to do with the support he's not providing the team, right? If he needs more support get him a wonder bra. Edit: I don't want a player on the Canucks that can only work hard if he has the right support. You win with motivated players that fight for every play, you loose with players that only play hard when they "have the right support". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerines Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 He's only gone a few games without getting a point geez. He was on a pretty good point streak until Arniel benched him for whatever reason. Good way to take confidence away from one of your best forwards. Hey Kass is having a pretty good point streak, so I know, lets bench him cuz he's not doing enough. Yeah maybe he made a couple of mistakes, but who doesn't? Does that warrant a benching? You're supposed to make mistakes in the AHL thats where you improve and learn to not make the same ones again. F off Arniel. I hope he doesn't ruin our young talant with his stupid methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 He's only gone a few games without getting a point geez. He was on a pretty good point streak until Arniel benched him for whatever reason. Good way to take confidence away from one of your best forwards. Hey Kass is having a pretty good point streak, so I know, lets bench him cuz he's not doing enough. Yeah maybe he made a couple of mistakes, but who doesn't? Does that warrant a benching? You're supposed to make mistakes in the AHL thats where you improve and learn to not make the same ones again. F off Arniel. I hope he doesn't ruin our young talant with his stupid methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kazin! Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Frank Corrado is 6'1 and 195 pounds at 19 years old, since when is that small? Erik Karlsson - 6 foot 180 pounds Brian Campbell - 5'10 190 pounds Dan Boyle - 5'11 190 pounds Mark Streit - 5'11 195 pounds Ryan Suter - 6'1 195 pounds Kevin Bieksa - 6'1 200 pounds Kimo Timonem - 5'10 190 pounds Keith Yandle - 6'1 190 pounds Kevin Shattenkirk - 5'11 205 pounds Kris Letang - 6 feet 200 pounds Michael Del Zotto - 6 feet 190 pounds Duncan Keith - 6'1 200 pounds Nick Leddy - 6 feet, 190 pounds Those small guys that "don't really do much in the big leagues" all happen to be in the top 25 of nhl defense scoring from last season and just happen to be the same size or even smaller than Frank Corrado. You don't know what you're talking about! And regarding Cody Hodgson...... Look you may still be bitter about the way it went down with the Canucks, but you can't ignore the facts : 1. captain of his junior team 2. top 10 draft pick 3. former Chl player of the year 4. 5th ALL TIME points in a year by a Canadian at the world juniors, only behind the likes of Wayne Gretzky, Eric Lindros, Brayden Schenn.. 5. 5th in rookie scoring last season despite averaging 13 minutes per game, while everyone ahead of him averaged 17 minutes or more. ( Thats 328 minutes of ice time advantage over a whole season they had on Hodgson) 6. Captain of his Ahl team Everything points to him being more than an "decent second liner at best" as you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerines Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 So have you watched the games? Because I haven't. If you haven't then your assuming that he is working hard and getting benched because he has gone a few games without a point, right? I'm willing to bet that's not the case and he is not working hard (we saw it in Vancouver). I think the report was that his benching was approved by Canucks brass. Edit: what you are supposed to do is work hard in the AHL and show your ready for the NHL, that's what your supposed to do. You are NOT supposed to be benched for not working hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Rypien Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 What do you expect when he's playing with bums? PWF's need to play with good players to produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Kassian is the only Wolves-level prospect i am not concerned about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 2 assists for the Kass tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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