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Michigan passes bill allowing concealed weapons in schools, day care centers, stadiums, churches


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What does it matter if Americans aren't armed to the teeth? I wasn't, yet I get it just fine.

Bringing up other countries is utterly pointless and a purposeful detraction considering murder rates in general follow the same path.

You won't ever get to the bottom of the murder problem when you're too busy getting mad at guns and the second amendment.

You also won't ever get your answer to what solutions are when you blatantly ignore my responses giving them to you.

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Bringing up other countries is only pointless if you have already made up your mind and do not want to be confused by facts and statistics. It seems your approach is never to let facts and statistics get in the way of a good rant.

The Harvard Injury Control Research Center assessed the literature on guns and homicide and found that there’s substantial evidence that indicates more guns means more murders. This holds true whether you’re looking at different countries or different states.

http://www.hsph.harv...eath/index.html

And proposing solutions that are clearly unworkable in the US and which have already been rejected as unconstitutional in a thread about gun control in the US is not helpful,eh?

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Again, they can move to Canada or some other country in the world. US isn't the only country on this planet and isn't even necessarily the best country on this planet. I hated my government and moved to Canada. The Americans can't do that? If you lived in a hostile place and always lived in fear, wouldn't you move? Seems like the most logical thing to do.

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Ok first of all, bud...I wasn't talking about any of these recent incidents that have taken place, get me? I'm talking about the "pulse" of a good number of people in this country...do you not realize there are a group of idiot American conspiracy theorists who are CERTAIN that in March Barack Obama is going to sign the US's sovereignty over to the United Nations....getting rid of the guns altogether? People BELIEVE this nonsense. More Americans are paranoid of what they feel the government could do to them it's ridiculous...People here do, believe it or not, think that it is very plausible that Obama is a socialist, that he's a muslim, that he was born in kenya, that he's the anti-christ, and on and on and on...this level of intolerance CAUSES the American people...or a good number of them to be afraid of their government.

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What does it matter if Americans aren't armed to the teeth? I wasn't, yet I get it just fine.

Bringing up other countries is utterly pointless and a purposeful detraction considering murder rates in general follow the same path.

You won't ever get to the bottom of the murder problem when you're too busy getting mad at guns and the second amendment.

You also won't ever get your answer to what solutions are when you blatantly ignore my responses giving them to you.

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You forget how difficult it is for Americans to adapt to any kind of change in their lives...the sad reality is, most of this country is fairly complacent, and they've entrenched themselves pretty firmly, some to the point of mulish stubbornness...most of the people that live near me kind of just lie there and take whatever the government dishes out, even if they are getting violated over and over again by increases in taxes, or the questionable new healthcare system, so I don't think they would move even if they had the opportunity to do so...

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You are in error.

In what alternate universe is a solution that you propose that has already been rejected in the US as unconstitutional in any way, shape or form relevant to a discussion about proposed solutions to an epidemic of firearm homicides in the US?

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You forget how difficult it is for Americans to adapt to any kind of change in their lives...the sad reality is, most of this country is fairly complacent, and they've entrenched themselves pretty firmly, some to the point of mulish stubbornness...most of the people that live near me kind of just lie there and take whatever the government dishes out, even if they are getting violated over and over again by increases in taxes, or the questionable new healthcare system, so I don't think they would move even if they had the opportunity to do so...

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More rules on permits and regulating registration is relevant and respects the inalienability of the second amendment. Your proposition of pointing out other countries' rates and laws as if it's some mystery that the US has a problem is irrelevant because those countries do not make US law it simply doesn't matter. Time to move on there, guy.

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Bringing up other countries just shows how awful US is with their gun control and lack of any control on gun violence. What makes America so special compared to other countries? Their gun culture and the second amendment is really getting in the way of putting in some type of gun control to curb or minimize these incidents. And your solution is to train people how to use guns? Just putting up gun training classes won't solve the problem. In fact the psychos might get even more skilled in shooting up schools and the number of students getting killed would be in triple digits instead of double digits.

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More rules on permits and regulating registration is relevant and respects the inalienability of the second amendment. Your proposition of pointing out other countries' rates and laws as if it's some mystery that the US has a problem is irrelevant because those countries do not make US law it simply doesn't matter. Time to move on there, guy.

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Those countries can be used as models to implement US laws. I think the main problem here is that Americans and their government are so self-centered that they can't possibly follow other countries in any aspect because they like to live in their own little universe.

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Controlling a gun, as in, attacking the gun, isn't going to affect murder rates because it doesn't address the problem as to what compels an American to murder someone. Unless your insinuation is a gun compels someone to murder another person, you're barking up the wrong tree.. again.

Thanks for your opinion.

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