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#1 Pasific Coluseum

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:29 PM

Heard on the radio from Team1040 that Ryan Kesler is unhappy with Canucks management stemming from injury accusations. Rumors that Kesler wants to be traded and wants to move on after his injury heals up.

So I propose a blockbuster trade with Toronto. Burke is desperate to improve his club and is willing to make a splash.

Toronto Gets
Luongo
Kesler
Ballard

Vancouver Gets
Kadri
Bozak
Lupul
Connolly (To Replace Malhotra)
Komisarek
1st 2013 conditional (If Toronto makes playoffs)
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:32 PM

You`re a leafs fan in disguise aren`t you?
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:36 PM

Heard on the radio from Team1040 that Ryan Kesler is unhappy with Canucks management stemming from injury accusations. Rumors that Kesler wants to be traded and wants to move on after his injury heals up. So I propose a blockbuster trade with Toronto. Burke is desperate to improve his club and is willing to make a splash. Toronto Gets Luongo Kesler Ballard Vancouver Gets Kadri Bozak Lupul Connolly (To Replace Malhotra) Komisarek 1st 2013 conditional (If Toronto makes playoffs)


I think if Kesler publicly said he was unhappy about the Canucks management it would have been all over CDC.
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:37 PM

Horrible. In multiple respects.
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:40 PM

Toronto Gets
Luongo
Kesler
Ballard

Vancouver Gets
Kadri
Bozak
Lupul
Connolly (To Replace Malhotra)
Komisarek
1st 2013 conditional (If Toronto makes playoffs)

Is Malhotra going somewhere?

2 Allstars and a cap dump for 5 cap dumps.

Edited by Crom!, 15 December 2012 - 12:42 PM.

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:46 PM

No Gardiner, Gunarsson or Reilly...

No thanks!
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 01:17 PM

Heard on the radio from Team1040 that Ryan Kesler is unhappy with Canucks management stemming from injury accusations. Rumors that Kesler wants to be traded and wants to move on after his injury heals up.

So I propose a blockbuster trade with Toronto. Burke is desperate to improve his club and is willing to make a splash.

Toronto Gets
Luongo
Kesler
Ballard

Vancouver Gets
Kadri
Bozak
Lupul
Connolly (To Replace Malhotra)
Komisarek
1st 2013 conditional (If Toronto makes playoffs)

well to be honest, i don't think it's that bad.
Daniel Henrik Lupul
Booth Bozak Burrows
Higgins Connolly Hansen
Malhotra Lapierre Kassian

not to mention, raymond/weise/kadri/schroeder/jensen and more all pushing.

So much depth, + a prospect, + a first rounder. lol, just my two cents.

In a way, I can see TO saying no.
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 01:23 PM

I would take that trade in a heartbeat. But I think it's lopsided in our favour and Burke would not do it.
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 01:23 PM

If we're trading Kesler and Luongo, then I want it to be to Florida for Bjugstad + Gudbranson, and I'll add to Kesler and Louie if that's not enough.
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 01:33 PM

I would take that trade in a heartbeat. But I think it's lopsided in our favour and Burke would not do it.


:shock:

It's terrible for us.

- Kadri and Bozak we could get Lu.
- Lupul is a top 6 forward with a big contract.
- Connolly & Komisarek are cap dumps and hold no value to us.


Huge no.

Change it to Phaneuf, Kessel, and Gardiner/Rielly and it would be more fair.

Edited by Smashian Kassian, 15 December 2012 - 01:34 PM.

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 01:34 PM

If we're trading Kesler and Luongo, then I want it to be to Florida for Bjugstad + Gudbranson, and I'll add to Kesler and Louie if that's not enough.


Kesler + Luongo

for

Gudbranson + Bjugstad


I wouldn't do that, Look what Richards and Carter got Philly, Kesler could get the same.
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 02:15 PM

How aboot Bozak/Phaneuf for Luongo/DeerlegsRaymond?
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 02:23 PM

Absolutely god awful. Kesler isn't going anywhere. Period. And unless you have proof that Kes is unhappy in Vancouver we're gonna assume you're just saying that to help make your proposal look better.
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 09:26 PM

If Kesler really wants to go then I think we should do separate trades.

Kesler to some other team for someone who is actually good.
Luongo to Toronto for the best possible crap we can pry away from them.
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 09:38 PM

I think if Kesler publicly said he was unhappy about the Canucks management it would have been all over CDC.


You know how our local sports are. Any time there's differing opinions, you know there's animosity. Thanks, Hodgson
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:44 AM

I like blockbuster, did you watch the Hobbit?
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:49 AM

I'm lost and cycling between :lol: and :picard: after reading your post... I think I'll mostly stick to derisive :lol: though.

/That'sAll--kthxbye.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:29 PM

It's actually not as bad as it seems once you think of it value wise.
Ballard = Komisarek
Lu = Kadri, Connolly, and Bozak
Kesler > Lupul +1st

I wouldn't do it though as I'm not really a fan of Kadri, Bozak, or Lupul.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 06:09 PM

Is Malhotra going somewhere?

2 Allstars and a cap dump for 5 cap dumps.


You would think Sutter would have to be our GM for something that stupid to happen...
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 01:15 AM

If Kesler wanting out is true... Getzlaf for Kesler +
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 11:13 AM

It's actually not as bad as it seems once you think of it value wise.
Ballard = Komisarek
Lu = Kadri, Connolly, and Bozak
Kesler > Lupul +1st

I wouldn't do it though as I'm not really a fan of Kadri, Bozak, or Lupul.


Oh it's bad
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 11:16 AM

To Philly
Edler
Kesler
1st
Rodin

To Van
Giroux
Bourdon



Acquire a top 4 d man via Luongo trade

Edited by eretz canucks, 18 December 2012 - 12:08 PM.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:47 PM

Oh it's bad


It's certainly not good, but it isn't that bad.
I laughed at it at first, but after thinking about it value wise its not really that far off. Better than a few proposals around here.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 01:02 PM

If Kesler wanting out is true... Getzlaf for Kesler +

With Getzlaf being a pending UFA, I wouldn't pay more along with Kesler to get him. They both had off years, and Kesler's coming off of surgery, but he's a recent Selke winner with a good contract for 3 more years after this one.

Also, Kesler's NTC kicked in as of July 1st this summer, so it'll be unlikely he's involved in a trade now.
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:33 AM

It's hard enough finding value in the Leafs system for Luongo alone:
Frattin, Biggs, Steckel (ufa), 1st.

If Kesler wants out:and Edler won't re-sign:

Kesler to Philly for Couturier, Coburn

Edler to Detroit for Brendan Smith, Gustav Nyqvist and Darren Helm.

Edited by oldnews, 19 December 2012 - 12:40 AM.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:46 AM

It's hard enough finding value in the Leafs system for Luongo alone:

Frattin, Biggs, 1st

If Kesler wants out:an/or Edler won't re-sign:

Kesler to Philly for Couturier, Coburn

Edler to Detroit for Brendan Smith, Gustav Nyqvist and Darren Helm.

I think the only way Philly trades Coburn is if they get a D man like Edler in return. So maybe something like this

To Vancouver: Sean Couturier, Brayden Coburn

To Philly: Alex Edler, Keith Ballard

Edler = Couturier
Ballard < Coburn

Hartnell - Giroux - Briere
Voracek - Schenn - Simmonds
Fedotenko - Talbot - Read
Wellwood - Betts - Zolniercyzk

Edler - Schenn
Ballard - Timonen
Meszaros - Grossman
Bourdon, Gustafsson, Gervais

Bryz
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:01 AM

I think the only way Philly trades Coburn is if they get a D man like Edler in return. So maybe something like this

To Vancouver: Sean Couturier, Brayden Coburn

To Philly: Alex Edler, Keith Ballard

Edler = Couturier
Ballard < Coburn

Hartnell - Giroux - Briere
Voracek - Schenn - Simmonds
Fedotenko - Talbot - Read
Wellwood - Betts - Zolniercyzk

Edler - Schenn
Ballard - Timonen
Meszaros - Grossman
Bourdon, Gustafsson, Gervais

Bryz


Fine, switch it up - Edler to Philly (sans Ballard), Kesler to Detroit for the same packages if you will, but Detroit needs Edler more than Philly...Philly can have Ballard with Kesler if they throw in another piece.
Couturier is a great young player, but Edler is a veteran all-star and top 2/4 blueliner - has more value.

Edited by oldnews, 19 December 2012 - 01:07 AM.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:06 AM

Fine, switch it up - Edler to Philly (sans Ballard), Kesler to Detroit for the same packages.
Couturier is a great young player, but Edler is a veteran all-star and top 2/4 blueliner - has more value.

That sounds all right. I just don't see Kesler wanting out of Vancouver though.
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:29 AM

That sounds all right. I just don't see Kesler wanting out of Vancouver though.


I'd bet he's happier here now that there isn't a rookie nipping at his heels, prematurely wanting his ice-time.
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:33 AM

I'd bet he's happier here now that there isn't a rookie nipping at his heels, prematurely wanting his ice-time.

And I'm not sure why he would want to go to Philly in the first place seeing as he would be in the exact same spot (Schenn) before Hodgson got traded.
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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