nuck nit Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 A d-man can only do so much to help the forwards score. If they're not burying it, which not alot of them are lately, it's not gonna matter how talented he is. Yea, I guess that's why he was selected to the all-star game. They only send average players there... Of course he needs some work. So does every prospect, otherwise they would be in the NHL already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 DeNiro,Hodgson was always that talented.The Canucks misdiagnosed his injury and that helped tp set him back a year in his development at a crucial time. Were you actually asleep for a few years? You are like egg nogged out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Not "desperation" at all. It's called intelligently-applied effort. They put in the work to ensure that they had shifted the odds in their favour as much possible, which Vancouver did not. Vancouver clearly assumed that, like Dan Hamhuis, they'd be given a gift and that Schultz would just want to play in his home town above all, growing up a Canuck fan. Whoops. Knocking the Oilers for bringing in Gretzky really shows a level of immaturity on your part. An excellent strategy that in the end was successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Well who would you rather have? A local guy like Garrison who scored 16 goals last season, and who's dream it was to play for Canucks since he was a kid. Who even came out publicly and said that he wants to play for the Canucks. Or some kid who's from here, hadn't proven anything at the pro level, and needed to be promised the moon to sign here? You can't have both. Schultz's cap hit is too big. I know whoI'd choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 DeNiro,Hodgson was always that talented.The Canucks misdiagnosed his injury and that helped tp set him back a year in his development at a crucial time. Were you actually asleep for a few years? You are like egg nogged out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Quantity will never replace quality. Garrison has hardly shown much and yet Gillis threw the contract and the bucks at him. The problem with attracting a budding possible superstar here was no promise and the presenters presentation sucked,obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Schultz's cap hit is lower than Garrison's. And he's not signed for 6 years. I'll take Schultz in a New York minute, thank you very much. I'm of the opinion (and have been since it happened) that the Garrison signing was dumb, and that it'll turn out to be a mistake. This is a guy who has "one-year wonder" potential written all over him. I would far, far, far rather have Justin Schultz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Schultz's cap hit is lower than Garrison's. And he's not signed for 6 years. I'll take Schultz in a New York minute, thank you very much. I'm of the opinion (and have been since it happened) that the Garrison signing was dumb, and that it'll turn out to be a mistake. This is a guy who has "one-year wonder" potential written all over him. I would far, far, far rather have Justin Schultz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Garrison has hardly shown much? Yet you wanna give 3.75 mil to Schultz? Oh cause I forgot he had proven so much in college at that time... Garrison was offered over 5 mil on free agency and he took less to sign with the Canucks. They made the right choice. The guy wanted to play here, Schultz clearly didn't. get over it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Take an unproven player, who is really only 1 dimensional, and hasn't improved his defense that much since joining the Baron's, over a proven NHL calibre d-man, who is reliable at both ends. Makes sense.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLahey Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Schultz's cap hit is lower than Garrison's. And he's not signed for 6 years. I'll take Schultz in a New York minute, thank you very much. I'm of the opinion (and have been since it happened) that the Garrison signing was dumb, and that it'll turn out to be a mistake. This is a guy who has "one-year wonder" potential written all over him. I would far, far, far rather have Justin Schultz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstar Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Schultz is just a product of the Edmonton over-hype CDCers seem to love. RNH, Eberle and Schultz are playing in the AHL and the Barons are 4th in their division and 7th in the conference (3 points ahead of the Wolves with 2 more GP). All those guys can put up points, but if that's all there was to success, they'd be destroying the AHL. A quick look at Schultz' stats show that he's raking in assists thanks to Eberle who just pulled in a 4 goal game. He's just getting his numbers bolstered, hereby referred to as "getting Hodgsoned". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Yea, and Garrison has proven that he's a solid NHLer. Schultz hadn't proven anything yet. Well I would say Schultz has one-year wonder written all over him too. What makes you so certain that this kid is gonna be a star? All you see is points, and assume that determines everything for making the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Apparently it makes sense in their world. I'd rather not take a gamble that big on a guy that hasn't even played a game in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Apparently it makes sense in their world. I'd rather not take a gamble that big on a guy that hasn't even played a game in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Has he really proven that? He's basically played 2 NHL seasons, and was totally irrelevant and unknown until 2011 when he got off to a great start (didn't do much after January, as I recall). Justin Schultz looks like he's going to be a star. Think of the stones it takes to just say "no thanks" to Anaheim, wait until you're free, and then go pick and choose where you want to play. Think of the pressure/scrutiny that he's now under as an Edmonton Oiler. And all he does is go out and lead the AHL in scoring! Guy looks like he has the makeup of a real star. Time will tell, but more confirmation was offered when TSN ranked him the #1 prospect. #1. Ahead of Yakupov, ahead of Rielly, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 "A gamble that big" - an entry-level contract? And you don't see the risk inherent in giving a 6-year, $4.6M per deal to an undrafted 28 year-old who's played about 180 NHL games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 No actually I might have been following better than you, cause you got your facts wrong. Hodgson was misdiagnosed by the Canucks, but he still felt pain, so he and his agent went to get a second opinion at one of the top back specialists in the states. Guess what? They came up with the same diagnosis. It was only when the Canucks checked him out for a second time that they found the real problem. I watched him play in the AHL, and the injury wasn't the reason he only put up 0.6 PPG. He was fine by that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Garrison has hardly shown much? Yet you wanna give 3.75 mil to Schultz? Oh cause I forgot he had proven so much in college at that time... Garrison was offered over 5 mil on free agency and he took less to sign with the Canucks. They made the right choice. The guy wanted to play here, Schultz clearly didn't. get over it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamJamIam Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I think this thread can best be described by "nuck nit and King of the ES make absurd claims about a sport they know nothing about and a whole bunch of people make the mistake of thinking that their ignorance will come to a sudden halt when faced with facts." Myself included. Protip: the perpetually ignorant among us are not ignorant because they don't understand the topic but because they refuse to understand it. Save yourselves from this black hole of a discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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