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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:28 PM

Looks like everyone is singing Kumbya now! All rainbows and unicorns now fellas


Getting ready for 2013 .. clean the slate and re-stock the ammo bin ..
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:36 PM

National Rifle Association vows to fight arms trade treaty at U.N. - Yahoo! News



By Louis Charbonneau | Reuters – 20 hrs ago


http://news.yahoo.com/national-rifle-association-vows-fight-arms-trade-treaty-061206196.html
UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The leading U.S. pro-gun group, the National Rifle Association, has vowed to fight a draft international treaty to regulate the $70 billion global arms trade and dismissed suggestions that a recent U.S. school shooting bolstered the case for such a pact.
The U.N. General Assembly voted on Monday to restart negotiations in mid-March on the first international treaty to regulate conventional arms trade after a drafting conference in July collapsed because the U.S. and other nations wanted more time. Washington supported Monday's U.N. vote.

U.S. President Barack Obama has come under intense pressure to tighten domestic gun control laws after the December 14 shooting massacre of 20 children and six educators at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut. His administration has since reiterated its support for a global arms treaty that does not curtail U.S. citizens' rights to own weapons.

Arms control campaigners say one person every minute dies as a result of armed violence and a convention is needed to prevent illicitly traded guns from pouring into conflict zones and fueling wars and atrocities.

In an interview with Reuters, NRA President David Keene said the Newtown massacre has not changed the powerful U.S. gun lobby's position on the treaty. He also made clear that the Obama administration would have a fight on its hands if it brought the treaty to the U.S. Senate for ratification.

"We're as opposed to it today as we were when it first appeared," he said on Thursday. "We do not see anything in terms of the language and the preamble as being any kind of guarantee of the American people's rights under the Second Amendment."

The Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution protects the right to bear arms. Keene said the pact could require the U.S. government to enact legislation to implement it, which the NRA fears could lead to tighter restrictions on gun ownership.

He added that such a treaty was unlikely to win the two-thirds majority in the U.S. Senate necessary for approval.

"This treaty is as problematic today in terms of ratification in the Senate as it was six months ago or a year ago," Keene said. Earlier this year a majority of senators wrote to Obama urging him to oppose the treaty.

U.N. delegates and gun-control activists say the July treaty negotiations fell apart largely because Obama, fearing attacks from Republican rival Mitt Romney before the November 6 election if his administration was seen as supporting the pact, sought to kick the issue past the U.S. vote.

U.S. officials have denied those allegation.

The NRA claimed credit for the July failure, calling it at the time "a big victory for American gun owners."

NRA IS 'TELLING LIES'

The main reason the arms trade talks are taking place at all is that the United States - the world's biggest arms trader, which accounts for more than 40 percent of global transfers in conventional arms - reversed U.S. policy on the issue after Obama was first elected and decided in 2009 to support a treaty.

Supporters of the treaty accuse the NRA of deceiving the American public about the pact, which they say will have no impact on U.S. domestic gun ownership and would apply only to exports. Last week, Amnesty International launched a campaign to counter what it said were NRA distortions about the treaty.

"The NRA is telling lies about the arms treaty to try to block U.S. government support," Michelle Ringuette of Amnesty International USA said about the campaign. "The NRA's leadership must stop interfering in U.S. foreign policy on behalf of the arms industry."

Jeff Abramson of Control Arms said that as March approaches, "the NRA is going to be challenged in ways it never has before and that can affect the way things go" with the U.S. government.

The draft treaty under discussion specifically excludes arms-related "matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any State."

Among its key provisions is a requirement that governments make compliance with human rights norms a condition for foreign arms sales. It would also have states ban arms transfers when there is reason to believe weapons or ammunition might be diverted to problematic recipients or end up on illicit markets.

Keene said the biggest problem with the treaty is that it regulates civilian arms, not just military weapons.

According to the Small Arms Survey, roughly 650 million of the 875 million weapons in the world are in the hands of civilians. That, arms control advocates say, is why any arms trade treaty must regulate both military and civilian weapons.

Keene said the NRA would actively participate in the fight against the arms trade treaty in the run-up to the March negotiations. "We will be involved," he warned, adding that it was not clear if the NRA would address U.N. delegates directly as the group did in July.

The NRA has successfully lobbied members of Congress to stop major new gun restrictions in the United States since the 1994 assault weapons ban, which expired in 2004. It also gives financial backing to pro-gun candidates.

EXPLOSIVE ISSUE

European and other U.N. delegates who support the arms trade treaty told Reuters on condition of anonymity they hoped Newtown would boost support for the convention in the United States, where gun control is an explosive political issue.

"Newtown has opened the debate within the United States on weapons controls in ways that it has not been opened in the past," Abramson said, adding that "the conversation within the U.S. will give the (Obama) administration more leeway."

Keene rejected the idea of bringing the Newtown tragedy into the discussion of an arms trade treaty.

"I find it interesting that some of the folks that advocate the treaty say it would have no impact whatever within the United States but that it needs to be passed to prevent another occurrence of a school shooting such as took place in Newtown," he said. "Both of those positions can't be correct."

Obama administration officials have tried to explain to U.S. opponents of the arms trade pact that the treaty under discussion would not affect domestic gun sales and ownership.

"Our objectives for the ATT (arms trade treaty) have not changed," a U.S. official told Reuters. "We seek a treaty that fights illicit arms trafficking and proliferation, protects the sovereign right of states to conduct legitimate arms trade, and meets the concerns that we have articulated throughout."

"In particular, we will not accept any treaty that infringes on the constitutional rights of U.S. citizens to bear arms," the official added.

Supporters of the treaty also worry that major arms producers like Russia, China, Iran, India, Pakistan and others could seek to render the treaty toothless by including loopholes and making key provisions voluntary, rather than mandatory.

The United States, like all other U.N. member states, can effectively veto the treaty since the negotiations will be conducted on the basis of consensus. That means the treaty must receive unanimous support in order to be approved in March.

But if it fails in March, U.N. delegations can put it to a vote in the 193-nation General Assembly, where diplomats say it would likely secure the required two-thirds majority.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 12:58 PM

President Obama in an interview on NBC's Meet the Press pushed for gun control legislation in 2013 and is not sold on the NRA proposal of armed school guards.

And in the aftermath of December's deadly elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn., the president vowed to put his "full weight" behind the gun violence recommendations he asked Vice President Joe Biden to generate.
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Obama said that battle would also be fought during the first year of his second term, the success of which the president suggested would hinge upon just how searing the deadly shooting was to the public psyche.

"Will there be resistance? Absolutely there will be resistance," the president told NBC's David Gregory. "And the question then becomes whether we are actually shook up enough by what happened here that it does not just become another one of these routine episodes where it gets a lot of attention for a couple of weeks and then it drifts away. It certainly won't feel like that to me. This is something that was the worst day of my presidency. And it's not something that I want to see repeated."

Obama also said he was "skeptical" of the National Rifle Association's proposal to put an armed guard in every school, though he said he would not "prejudge" any proposals to address mass shooting events.

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Here is the full transcript of the interview:
http://www.msnbc.msn...90#.UOCcleTAcrU
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 12:33 AM

Agree just about entirely with Ron Paul.

http://www.foxnews.c...n-every-school/

Ron Paul rips NRA plan for officers in every school


Retiring Republican Rep. Ron Paul pushed back Monday against the National Rifle Association's call for installing armed officers in every school, warning that the move could create a TSA-style maze of checkpoints and surveillance cameras -- with limited effect.

"School shootings, no matter how horrific, do not justify creating an Orwellian surveillance state in America," Paul said in a written statement.

The congressman, among the most libertarian-leaning on the Hill, is the first Republican in Congress to forcefully oppose the NRA's proposal. NRA head Wayne LaPierre on Friday urged federal funding to overhaul America's school security, a plan that would include posting a guard in every school.

LaPierre argued that, in the wake of the Connecticut mass murders, it only makes sense to protect students the same way the country protects banks and elected leaders -- with armed security.

"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," he said.

But Paul -- who said he agrees that "more guns equals less crime" and "private gun ownership prevents many shootings" -- nevertheless chided the NRA for its plan, describing it as a government solution that could infringe on liberty.

"Do we really want to live in a world of police checkpoints, surveillance cameras, metal detectors, X-ray scanners and warrantless physical searches? We see this culture in our airports: witness the shabby spectacle of once proud, happy Americans shuffling through long lines while uniformed TSA agents bark orders. This is the world of government provided 'security,' a world far too many Americans now seem to accept or even endorse," Paul said.

Paul, during his more than two decades in Congress and three presidential runs, has earned a reputation for going against the grain of his party. He has been famously anti-defense spending and anti-anything that smacks of too much government.

While chastising Democrats for their renewed calls for gun control, he claimed the call for more school officers is in the same vein.

"Predictably, the political left responded to the tragedy with emotional calls for increased gun control. This is understandable, but misguided. The impulse to have government 'do something' to protect us in the wake national tragedies is reflexive and often well intentioned," Paul said. "The political right, unfortunately, has fallen into the same trap in its calls for quick legislative solutions to gun violence. If only we put armed police or armed teachers in schools, we're told, would-be school shooters will be dissuaded or stopped."

He continued: "I don't agree that conservatives and libertarians should view government legislation, especially at the federal level, as the solution to violence. Real change can happen only when we commit ourselves to rebuilding civil society in America, meaning a society based on family, religion, civic and social institutions, and peaceful cooperation through markets."


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Posted 01 January 2013 - 08:50 PM

^^^^
Translation: Do nothing. Everything's peachy.

The occasional murder of innocent children is a small price to pay for our "freedom"....
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 08:59 PM

^^^^
Translation: Do nothing. Everything's peachy.

The occasional murder of innocent children is a small price to pay for our "freedom"....

Yup but consider this...

"Real change can happen only when we commit ourselves to rebuilding civil society in America, meaning a society based on family, religion, civic and social institutions, and peaceful cooperation through markets."

Where are the unicorns and rainbows?
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:53 AM

^^^^
Translation: Do nothing. Everything's peachy.

The occasional murder of innocent children is a small price to pay for our "freedom"....

Translation: Eliminate all rights, government can ensure our safety by banning all objects.

Yup but consider this...

"Real change can happen only when we commit ourselves to rebuilding civil society in America, meaning a society based on family, religion, civic and social institutions, and peaceful cooperation through markets."

Where are the unicorns and rainbows?

Where is the character assassination? Oh wait, there it is. :lol:

Oh, there's also the first amendment, which allows him to express his religious beliefs. Surely another silly disposable part of the constitution to you.

Edited by zaibatsu, 02 January 2013 - 12:53 AM.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:36 AM

Sickening how Lefties use the death of all those children and teachers to push their liberal agendas.

And here was Obama exaggerating his eye flicks as if we can actually see his crocadile tears. But blubbers like a baby at HQ when he won the election.

How about the thousands of murdered innocent little souls that will never see Kindergarten because the Left voted them out with abortion? It's OK with them. Out of sight out of mind right? The media will never show gladbags full of baby parts being tied up and disposed of.

They disrespect the dead Sandy Hook children with their fake tears. Adam Lanza is a Saint compared to the left.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 02:11 AM

Sickening how Lefties use the death of all those children and teachers to push their liberal agendas.

And here was Obama exaggerating his eye flicks as if we can actually see his crocadile tears. But blubbers like a baby at HQ when he won the election.

How about the thousands of murdered innocent little souls that will never see Kindergarten because the Left voted them out with abortion? It's OK with them. Out of sight out of mind right? The media will never show gladbags full of baby parts being tied up and disposed of.

They disrespect the dead Sandy Hook children with their fake tears. Adam Lanza is a Saint compared to the left.

Wow. Just wow. Anti-abortion much? Women ernt equalz to dems mens so theys gots no rights ta chuus!
Yer a cherch-goin feller aint yuz? FFS!!!!

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 02:16 AM

zaibatsu.................


Posted Imagetheminister, on 21 December 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

You've laid out your normal rhetoric here, zaibatsu, but please explain the above.

You say it isn't the guns and gun culture that is responsible for Yanks killing Yanks yet you have failed to explain what is.

I think after reading your denial of everybody else's opinion I think it's only fair you actually tell us WTF is wrong with America.

GO.




- Why have you refused to respond to 'theminister' ? I think all of us contributing to this thread are waiting... STILL
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 02:48 AM

Here's a thought - put a cop in every school - take the number of NRA memberships and divide them by the total cost - Presto the yearly membership fees to belong the the NRA can cover the cost of policing. I think its a wonderful idea - unfortunatley I don't think many NRA members could afford the cost

Can not think of one single legitimate reason for any citizen to own or posses an assault rifle that would be morally acceptable. You can't hunt with it - you can't compete with it in recognized shooting sports - and for self defence its the first shot only that counts. Not a fan of goverment regulation but the time is long over due for the US to ban assualt weapons and the NRA should be forthcoming on how they suggest the US comes up with the Billions it would take to have a cop in every school in the US.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:05 AM

Translation: Eliminate all rights, government can ensure our safety by banning all objects.


Your translator needs repairing.

I'm only calling for an elimination of a specific part of one specific "right": The one that allows common citizens to own weapons that have no practical use other than for the killing of multiple people in a very short period of time.

But hey, keep drinking the old "if we let them take away our M-16s, they'll take away all of our rights and we'll be like Communist China!" Kool-Aid. It's actually ironic. You pro-gun types like to talk about your "freedom" even though your comments show how brainwashed you all are, thanks to the NRA and it's ilk.

"Pretty soon all our rights will be gone!".... "We have to be able to rise up against the government!".... "Someone's going to kick my door down and rape my family!".... "I need a semi-auto in case there are multiple bad guys attacking me!" "How can I possibly hunt, or protect my family with a gun that does not automatically reload and come with a 15 shot magazine!"....Etc, etc....

Pure comedy.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:46 AM

Translation: Eliminate all rights, government can ensure our safety by banning all objects.


Where is the character assassination? Oh wait, there it is. :lol:

Oh, there's also the first amendment, which allows him to express his religious beliefs. Surely another silly disposable part of the constitution to you.

???? What are you blathering on about?

Apparently you see something that is not there.

Note the US First Amendment in respect of free speech only applies to government action and only US government action at that. BTW The same sort of restriction applies in Canada as well as the Charter applies only to government actions.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


A person can say what they wish (assuming that it is not otherwise unlawful) and by the same token others can poke fun at what is said.

To the extent that Paul seems to be calling upon government to promote religion, that would be certainly be contrary to the First Amendment.

As the US Supreme Court has clearly stated any number of times including in Board of Education of Kiryas Joel Village School District v. Grumet, 512 U.S. 687 (1994) where Justice David Souter, writing for the majority, concluded that "government should not prefer one religion to another, or religion to irreligion."

Before you attempt to instruct others upon the ins and outs of constitutional law, you should first ensure that you have a grasp of the fundamentals and basic principles, eh?
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:11 AM

Sickening how Lefties use the death of all those children and teachers to push their liberal agendas.

And here was Obama exaggerating his eye flicks as if we can actually see his crocadile tears. But blubbers like a baby at HQ when he won the election.

How about the thousands of murdered innocent little souls that will never see Kindergarten because the Left voted them out with abortion? It's OK with them. Out of sight out of mind right? The media will never show gladbags full of baby parts being tied up and disposed of.

They disrespect the dead Sandy Hook children with their fake tears. Adam Lanza is a Saint compared to the left.

You mean lefties such as:

David Frum
http://www.thedailyb...un-control.html
http://www.cnn.com/2...afer/index.html

Or pro-gun and right of centre Democrats including Sen. Robert Casey, D-Pa.,


“It hit me in a way that the others didn’t, and that’s terribly unfair to those other families, but I would not be honest if I said otherwise. This hit me in a way that no other incident has in years,” Casey said in an interview. “I found myself being more emotional about this than virtually anything I’ve ever worked on.”


Its emotional weight has forced him to reconsider two gun-control provisions: banning assault weapons and limiting high-capacity ammunition.


“So there are two votes, and because of the weekend and what I saw happening in Connecticut, it caused me in a very deeply and emotional way, as I guess it did everyone, to seriously consider voting for those," he said. "And under normal circumstances, I’d be on the other side.”


As well as:

Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia to Rep. John Yarmuth of Kentucky are acknowledging that the Sandy Hook tragedy has, at least for now, left them open to reconsidering measures they once staunchly opposed.


“We woke up Saturday morning to a different nation than we were 24 hours earlier,” said Rep. Nick Rahall of West Virginia, another pro-gun Democrat who has said he is willing to consider banning high-capacity clips.


And the standard ultra right line trying to equate abortion of a fetus to murder of person. :picard:
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:18 AM

Sickening how Lefties use the death of all those children and teachers to push their liberal agendas.

And here was Obama exaggerating his eye flicks as if we can actually see his crocadile tears. But blubbers like a baby at HQ when he won the election.

How about the thousands of murdered innocent little souls that will never see Kindergarten because the Left voted them out with abortion? It's OK with them. Out of sight out of mind right? The media will never show gladbags full of baby parts being tied up and disposed of.

They disrespect the dead Sandy Hook children with their fake tears. Adam Lanza is a Saint compared to the left.


And yet here are you, despite all of the Left's efforts to remove you from this earth, spouting your vitriol like Smeagol on crack .. Lanza is a saint and you are a cretin ..

Edited by Tearloch7, 02 January 2013 - 11:30 AM.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:19 AM

Sickening how Lefties use the death of all those children and teachers to push their liberal agendas.

And here was Obama exaggerating his eye flicks as if we can actually see his crocadile tears. But blubbers like a baby at HQ when he won the election.

How about the thousands of murdered innocent little souls that will never see Kindergarten because the Left voted them out with abortion? It's OK with them. Out of sight out of mind right? The media will never show gladbags full of baby parts being tied up and disposed of.

They disrespect the dead Sandy Hook children with their fake tears. Adam Lanza is a Saint compared to the left.


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:20 AM

Sickening how Lefties use the death of all those children and teachers to push their liberal agendas.

And here was Obama exaggerating his eye flicks as if we can actually see his crocadile tears. But blubbers like a baby at HQ when he won the election.

How about the thousands of murdered innocent little souls that will never see Kindergarten because the Left voted them out with abortion? It's OK with them. Out of sight out of mind right? The media will never show gladbags full of baby parts being tied up and disposed of.

They disrespect the dead Sandy Hook children with their fake tears. Adam Lanza is a Saint compared to the left.


Most people who are against abortion are people you wouldn't want to screw in the first place.
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Well I tell you what Heretic..if Tim Tebow becomes Terry Bradshaw I will shave off all my hair, convert to Christianity, go into the ministry and become a preacher.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:23 AM

Sickening how Lefties use the death of all those children and teachers to push their liberal agendas.

And here was Obama exaggerating his eye flicks as if we can actually see his crocadile tears. But blubbers like a baby at HQ when he won the election.

How about the thousands of murdered innocent little souls that will never see Kindergarten because the Left voted them out with abortion? It's OK with them. Out of sight out of mind right? The media will never show gladbags full of baby parts being tied up and disposed of.

They disrespect the dead Sandy Hook children with their fake tears. Adam Lanza is a Saint compared to the left.


That's because that doesn't happen.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:26 AM

I think your banjo needs tuning there Cletus...


I wondered why the discordant strain of Dueling Banjos was wafting into my eardrums when I opened this page........



zaibatsu.................


theminister, on 21 December 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

You've laid out your normal rhetoric here, zaibatsu, but please explain the above.

You say it isn't the guns and gun culture that is responsible for Yanks killing Yanks yet you have failed to explain what is.

I think after reading your denial of everybody else's opinion I think it's only fair you actually tell us WTF is wrong with America.

GO.





- Why have you refused to respond to 'theminister' ? I think all of us contributing to this thread are waiting... STILL


Yep, still waiting......but don't be holding your breath.

Edited by Bertuzzi Babe, 02 January 2013 - 11:30 AM.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:26 AM

Your translator needs repairing.

I'm only calling for an elimination of a specific part of one specific "right": The one that allows common citizens to own weapons that have no practical use other than for the killing of multiple people in a very short period of time.

But hey, keep drinking the old "if we let them take away our M-16s, they'll take away all of our rights and we'll be like Communist China!" Kool-Aid. It's actually ironic. You pro-gun types like to talk about your "freedom" even though your comments show how brainwashed you all are, thanks to the NRA and it's ilk.

"Pretty soon all our rights will be gone!".... "We have to be able to rise up against the government!".... "Someone's going to kick my door down and rape my family!".... "I need a semi-auto in case there are multiple bad guys attacking me!" "How can I possibly hunt, or protect my family with a gun that does not automatically reload and come with a 15 shot magazine!"....Etc, etc....

Pure comedy.

Yup, it most certainly is comical.

Even the US Supreme Court in District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. __, 128 S. Ct. 2783, 171 L. Ed. 2d 637 (2008) noted that gun control is constitutional:

The Second Amendment right is not a right to keep and carry any weapon in any manner and for any purpose. The Court has upheld gun control legislation including prohibitions on concealed weapons and possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, and laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. The historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons supports the holding in United States v. Miller that the sorts of weapons protected are those in common use at the time.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:50 PM

???? What are you blathering on about?

Apparently you see something that is not there.

Note the US First Amendment in respect of free speech only applies to government action and only US government action at that. BTW The same sort of restriction applies in Canada as well as the Charter applies only to government actions.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


A person can say what they wish (assuming that it is not otherwise unlawful) and by the same token others can poke fun at what is said.

To the extent that Paul seems to be calling upon government to promote religion, that would be certainly be contrary to the First Amendment.

As the US Supreme Court has clearly stated any number of times including in Board of Education of Kiryas Joel Village School District v. Grumet, 512 U.S. 687 (1994) where Justice David Souter, writing for the majority, concluded that "government should not prefer one religion to another, or religion to irreligion."

Before you attempt to instruct others upon the ins and outs of constitutional law, you should first ensure that you have a grasp of the fundamentals and basic principles, eh?

You are not very bright whatsoever. Ron Paul was stating an opinion on what people can do on a personal level to better protect against this type of thing happening. Personal opinion =/= calling on government to promote religion. He spent most of that time stating there needs to be less government interference, not more. For someone who likes to state so often about his supposed constitutional law achievements, you have an awful ability dealing with both US constitutional law and understanding what an opinion is.


Your translator needs repairing.

I'm only calling for an elimination of a specific part of one specific "right": The one that allows common citizens to own weapons that have no practical use other than for the killing of multiple people in a very short period of time.

But hey, keep drinking the old "if we let them take away our M-16s, they'll take away all of our rights and we'll be like Communist China!" Kool-Aid. It's actually ironic. You pro-gun types like to talk about your "freedom" even though your comments show how brainwashed you all are, thanks to the NRA and it's ilk.

"Pretty soon all our rights will be gone!".... "We have to be able to rise up against the government!".... "Someone's going to kick my door down and rape my family!".... "I need a semi-auto in case there are multiple bad guys attacking me!" "How can I possibly hunt, or protect my family with a gun that does not automatically reload and come with a 15 shot magazine!"....Etc, etc....

Pure comedy.

You justified removing at bare minimum a chunk of basic US right yet you talk about comedy gold and being "paranoid" about removing rights.

Well goddamn, I wonder why.. I guess it doesn't click in your head does it?

The rest of your post is just an awful rant straw manning whatever it is you're trying to argue against that's highly unrelated to my posts.

Edited by zaibatsu, 02 January 2013 - 12:54 PM.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:19 PM

You are not very bright whatsoever. Ron Paul was stating an opinion on what people can do on a personal level to better protect against this type of thing happening. Personal opinion =/= calling on government to promote religion. He spent most of that time stating there needs to be less government interference, not more. For someone who likes to state so often about his supposed constitutional law achievements, you have an awful ability dealing with both US constitutional law and understanding what an opinion is.



You justified removing at bare minimum a chunk of basic US right yet you talk about comedy gold and being "paranoid" about removing rights.

Well goddamn, I wonder why.. I guess it doesn't click in your head does it?

The rest of your post is just an awful rant straw manning whatever it is you're trying to argue against that's highly unrelated to my posts.


Amending a right does not mean eliminate. Your point that any alteration of a right equals elimination of that right is dumb.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 05:38 PM

Amending a right does not mean eliminate. Your point that any alteration of a right equals elimination of that right is dumb.


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