aGENT Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 And congress responds: "We call on the NRA to use the $1.5-2M they spend in Congress on gun rights lobbying each year to contribute to the salary of someone from our military to act as an armed officer at each of the nearly 100,000 public schools in the US." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I'm not an American Constitution buff, but isn't the whole right to bear arms in reference to maintaining a militia to fight off the British? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Indeed. Unfortunately even that funding would be woefully inadequate. My math shows that for 100k schools, $2m in annual funding would be about $20 per year per school. Ought to be able to hire a real crack security officer for $20/year.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 That supplemented with a National Guard salary or finding those who are out of work after returning home from active duty with injuries and can't find jobs elsewhere would I'm sure be a welcome boost to the economy and unemployment rate, certainly more so than the boost to the economy the money is doing lobbying congress. So, then why does the NRA have to lobby congress? The Republicans support them already do they not? I guess the chance of the NRA doing that is about as likely as the government putting extra tax dollars into the education budget to allow for the hiring of those armed guards... not even close. Fiscal cliff indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 http://www.theglobeandmail.com/commentary/editorials/nras-solutions-show-americans-the-true-face-of-gun-culture/article6643732/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Instead of figuring out who should carry a gun, just give everyone a gun regardless of who they are. That way the bad guys will be afraid to use their gun because everyone else is armed. Make Sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Hartnell's Mane Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I'm not surprised anymore by anything put forward by the Neurotic Redneck Association...not surprised in the least... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Gun violence in the US has nothing to do with gun control laws. To this day Americans haven't been able to get to the root of their problem because of geniuses thinking the gun is the problem and not the mentality behind people who commit these crimes. Gun control has been tried in the states and failed miserably. An assault weapon ban was in place and wasn't renewed as it was shown not to have affected gun death+murder rates whatsoever. You're not discussing amending Canadian laws, or the Charter, or Australian laws, you're talking about US laws. You're also talking about a different mentality where people simply don't kill each other with the prevalence Americans do. To try and equate these things when the conditions are obviously different to a substantial degree cannot be seen as realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 http://www.theglobea...article6643732/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.DirtyDangles Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 01010100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01101111 01101110 01101100 01111001 00100000 01110111 01100001 01111001 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01110011 01100001 01110110 01100101 00100000 01101000 01110101 01101101 01100001 01101110 01101001 01110100 01111001 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01100100 01100101 01110011 01110100 01110010 01101111 01111001 00100000 01101001 01110100 00101110 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Clue: Looking to the gun as either a problem or a solution alone isn't the answer as it ignores both the criminal who uses it to commit a crime, and the person who legally owns one without committing any crime, the latter of which are by an insurmountable lot, the majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 The NRA is holding America hostage? No shortage of dramatics that's very standard for the media to get viewers/subscribers. The NRA isn't at fault for politicians fellating them. The NRA can't pass legislation.. should re-consider who we scrutinise there. Lastly, "lockdown" in American terms is a loss of freedoms.. the second amendment is a freedom too, one that obviously this writer believes can be handed over to government. In light of the US government going after the first and fourth amendments following 9/11, it sure makes all the sense in the world following a tragedy to hand over more rights, cuz that would be the opposite of "lockdown". Mind boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Hartnell's Mane Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Whay are you quotuing a RUSH song ? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Whay are you quotuing a RUSH song ? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 You shouldn't be giving out clues. You have none to spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 There's plenty more where that came from. No shortage of spares here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 The NRA effectively lobbies Democrats as well, just not as prominently as Republicans. Either way, the NRA has Congress in it's back pocket, and any significant gun control legislation (with exception to perhaps an assault rifle ban yet again) passed by the Senate Democrats won't make it through conference unless John Boehner and Republican House Reps commit political suicide. There's a good discussion to be made about how effective lobbying is, and how the collusion between private interests and public policy has been eroding safeguards against the type of rule by the few/elite seen here. It's just better for another topic. As to the point of budget, that's exactly why I said nothing should be done at the moment, because the US is indeed in a fiscal crisis (I don't use the word "fiscal cliff" because it's pejorative politi-speak for raising taxes and lowering spending, you know, good fiscal policy for a change, hence why it's seen as so bad), from the federal level down to the states and their more local governments. As I know first hand, education tends to be amongst the first cuts made to a budget, and as mentioned earlier, whether it be adding guns, training guards/officers, it's an expense upon education that would take away from the classroom and I don't think things are so bad where it necessitates this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Some people have referred to a wild west shootout if armed guards are allowed in schools. If this the case, why are they not deadly shootouts in US banks every year. Or shootouts at airports. They have armed guards there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Some people have referred to a wild west shootout if armed guards are allowed in schools. If this the case, why are they not deadly shootouts in US banks every year. Or shootouts at airports. They have armed guards there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I'm not an American Constitution buff, but isn't the whole right to bear arms in reference to maintaining a militia to fight off the British? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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