Smashian Kassian Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 It is still not nearly as great a risk as what we parted ways with to acquire Keith Ballard. Risk with Mitchell is nothing but salary out of Francesco's pockets. Rick with Ballard is him sucking, and the players that we traded away turning out to be very good - both of which happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I actually always liked Bernier, for the most part, and am surprised at how down his career his gone since leaving Vancouver. Must've been purely a contractual issue. Anyway, would he have been more value-adding than Victor Oreskovich was? Almost certainly yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 If I'm Salo, I vomit at the fact that the GM "just couldn't" give me 2 years, but he'll go out and give Jason Garrison 6 like it's nothing. Pretty disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 By my calculations, that's twice as many goals as Keith Ballard has, since being acquired by the Vancouver Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck_trevor16 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Can the mods just ban King of the ES very annoying and clearly not a canucks fan but a troll just to piss off everyone! the new Shawn Rocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 A player is "unrpoven" until he has played for the Vancouver Canucks... Derp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I don't see the exchange of Bernier for Oreskovich as being any different than the exchange of Sulzer for Gragnani. The Canucks knew what they had in Sulzer (and I liked him as an AHL'er or call up option), but figured he wasn't going to be that essential a piece to the team's future, so why not move him for an opportunity to take a better look at Gragnani, who had the potential to be useful in filling a team need? If he didn't work out, fine, he could walk and nothing was lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Six year contracts.Good for GM's that can't figure out what else to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Can the mods just ban King of the ES very annoying and clearly not a canucks fan but a troll just to piss off everyone! the new Shawn Rocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizeman Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I think the Canucks future is great. We have a great team now and a lot of young developing talent. I would say we have riches of young defense men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Can the mods just ban King of the ES very annoying and clearly not a canucks fan but a troll just to piss off everyone! the new Shawn Rocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Canucks don't have much as far as prospects go. No high end talent in the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Last time I looked Bernier and Sulzer were both playing in the NHL.The Canucks.org look like fools in how both of these moves panned out. When you begin worrying about the Canucks future you should look to small trades like these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Canucks don't have much as far as prospects go. No high end talent in the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowest common denominator Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Sadly Bernier wouldn't have been competing for Ballards spot. He would have been competing for Hansens spot. Hansen had 25 goals over the past 2 seasons to Berniers 6. Hansen is hands down better. Bernier was a salary dump. Which brings me back to: why even bring him up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Only person that would be worried about Canucks' future than all of us would be Mike Gillis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Last time I looked, neither Bernier or Sulzer were that important to the Canucks' franchise during their time here, and were replaced by guys who could perform in a similar manner to these guys, and at a cheaper price. If they were not dealt they may likely have been allowed to walk when their contracts expired, or are you suggesting that these guys would have made all the difference in the Canucks' latest playoff experience? regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 "Last time I looked, neither Bernier or Sulzer were that important to the Canucks' franchise during their time here, and were replaced by guys who COULD PERFORM IN A SIMLAR MANNER to these guys, and at a cheaper price. .....or are you suggesting that these guys would have made all the difference in the Canucks' latest playoff experience?" regards,G Sulzer-Buffalo Sabres-15gp 3g,5a Gragnani-With no intention of re-singing Gragnani the Canucks unsuccessfully attempted to trade him at the 2012 NHL Entry Draft. Unable to move Gragnani Vancouver chose not to give him a qualifying offer. Gragnani joins Hurricanes for $800,000.00. http://www.theguardian.pe.ca/Sports/Hockey/2012-07-11/article-3028791/Gragnani-joins-Hurricanes/1 Sulzer re-signed by Sabres for $725,000.00. http://blogs.buffalonews.com/sabres/2012/05/sabres-re-sign-sulzer-to-one-year-deal.html Bernier-played with NJ Devils,participating in the 2012 Stanley Cup Final. Oreskovich-Disappeared off the hockey map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Personally,I don't like seeing other posters being called a "derp" just because they have a point of view that some other super fan thinks is superior to others - or mine. Anybody should be able to express their opinions here without being negatively labelled to suit some superior poster's opinions of him or her self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I remember the first post of yours that I read on these boards - you were belittling other posters as if they were 'mere' "7-11" employees. Spare me the allegations of a superiority complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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