"Risk" is what you're risking to give up when placing a bet. Signing Mitchell would not have been risky at all. If he can't play, he goes on LTIR. That's it. We gave up Grabner, Bernier, and Howden for Ballard, meaning that MG placed a huge bet on the value that he could give to this team - and it hasn't materialized at all.
You simply don't understand risk if you think that signing Mitchell was riskier than giving up what we did for Ballard. Acquiring Ballard has cost us a young forward with blazing speed that can score, another bottom-six young forward, and an intriguing 1st round draft prospect. Mitchell would've cost us nothing but salary. Risk is clearly higher in one scenario.
Yes it was, there was no way of knowing if he would return, and if he would be able to play at that level. I get your point, but Ballard was an upgrade for us and a much needed one at that.
Mitchell's time here had just past, everyone needs to accept that and move on. At the time Keith fit our needs perfectly and the deal made alot of sense, and what we gave up isn't nearly as much as you made it seem.
Grabner had one breakout year and followed it up with a terrible season, basiclly he is on the same path Raymond was on, so he had one good year and one bad year, just like Ballard.
Bernier is a cap dump for us in the deal, he had little to no value in this trade, it was just good for us to get rid of him to add more speed and grit on the 3rd line. Great job trading him in the deal.
Howden is projecting to be a 2nd/3rd liner, he's not a blue chip prospect by anymeans and when you consider we have a # of prospects in that 2nd/3rd liner range, it isn't a huge loss. Especially when it is required to make the moves that addresses our needs and helps us get alot closer to a cup.
Contrary to your claim, he's not a top-4 defenseman, he doesn't play in all situations, he's not durable, and he hasn't shown a capability of playing 20 - 25 minutes per night as a Canuck.
Well that's what he had proven when we aqcuired he and that was the need at the time (Against Hindsight isn't a fair way to judge), He had a tough start, was injured and struggled, everyone unfairly piled on, he stepped up last year, got alot better, and was our best D-man at the end of it all and is starting to be what we expected. let's hope it continues.
Unfortunately, he's in the position that he's in because he's assumed to have a crystal ball; or, at least, inside knowledge. The "crystal ball" argument can be used to justify any horrible trade or signing ever made. Doesn't make it any more valid, nor does it absolve the GM in question of his accountability to it. Any mistake is their fault.
That makes no sense.
Your looking only through hindsight to make judgments, and acting like the outcome was crystal clear prior to making the move.
And just to add, would you have traded a 25 Goal scorer who was 24 and just came off a breakout season and appeared to be on the rise, or an unproven rookie who was inconsistent and couldn't crack the lineup full time.
I was/am a huge Grabner fan but trading Raymond instead of him would have been an incredibly stupid move.
And also when assessing the price (which I don't think was that bad considering what we thought we were getting) there were 7
other teams actively interested and pursuing him, we had to step up and offer the 1st.
Jason Garrison is not as reliable as Salo. He doesn't have nearly the resume. Is Tanev also equally reliable as Hamhuis?
And yes, I'm a fan of Toronto. That's why I spend so much time on the Canucks' message board.
Terrible comparison, Hamhuis is our best defensemen and plays on the 1st pair in our most important situations, I love Tanev but he doesn't play in nearly as a big a role.
And I would like to here your explaination on why you think he isn't more reliable or as reliable as Salo, rather than making terrible comparison's to try to justify your stupid theories. so go ahead explain.
I never said you were a leafs fan, I just asked what team is your favorite. So Canucks? Someone else? Or are u neutral and just come here to provoke us. Which is it? I honestly would like to know who your cheer for.
Edited by Smashian Kassian, 30 December 2012 - 04:36 PM.