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#1 RAMBUTANS

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 09:43 PM

I hate to be negative but I'm simply looking at the facts. The Canuckks are notoriously slow starters. If you look at the past several years, the record will show that we are bad in October thru November. If we transpose that to January, there isn't any time to make up for a slow start.

Add to this, the Canucks core are lazily taking time off and not playing in Europe save for Schneider. The Sedins, Burrows, Hamhuis, Edler, and others are stuck in their couches while other teams are playing in Europe, AHL, Spengler, etc.

Wiese, Raymond and Janik can't carry the load.

There's still about 3 weeks til the season starts (if there is) so I suggest the Canucks core join something......fast.


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Posted 28 December 2012 - 09:44 PM

as long as they make it to the playoffs its fine. a shorter season means by the time playoff comes we'r not that tired and have gotten some time to group up. Mid-late season is where the canucks perform the best.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 09:45 PM

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Can you bring me to these players houses when you go over and see them plastered to their respective couches please?

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 09:46 PM

as long as they make it to the playoffs its fine. a shorter season means by the time playoff comes we'r not that tired and have gotten some time to group up. Mid-late season is where the canucks perform the best.

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It's a small window to make playoffs. Slow start is not an option.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 09:47 PM

Can you bring me to these players houses when you go over and see them plastered to their respective couches please?

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 09:58 PM

then we will get a better draft pick then were getting if there isn't a season... i'm fine with that

Edited by Grabnerz, 28 December 2012 - 09:59 PM.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:00 PM

then we will get a better draft pick then were getting if there isn't a season... i'm fine with that


You do have a point come to think of it. But it's still painful to be eliminated.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:10 PM

I'd rather have them play and fail then to not compete at all. It would suck sure, i just want the canucks back.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:19 PM

Everyone is on equal playing ground. Garrison, Edler, and Kes were injured for the majority of this lockout.
I think this benefited us more, since nobody had to be forced back early.

Our prospects also got more development time away from the spotlight.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:29 PM

Well since you seem to like focusing on the negative side of everything, let's for once focus on the positives:

1. Kesler, Edler, and Garrison are all healthier than they would've been had the season started in October
2. A shorter season (albeit a more condensed one) should leave the Canucks less fatigued and injury-riddled by the time the playoffs roll around, especially with the absence of inter-conference games
3. If the team's trend of hitting their stride in the third or fourth month of the season continues, the Canucks should be in mid-season form by the end April, which is when the playoffs should start.
4. The Canucks won't have to play a ton of meaningless games down the stretch like they did last season.

Oh, and the Canucks have a combined November record of 32-16-3 over the last four seasons.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:42 PM

I don't think so. The Canucks have the worst travel schedule in the League and are not a very young team. The core is over 30 or close to it.

Canucks will benefit from a short season. They'll be fresh for the playoffs. Last season they peaked about 1/2 way thru the season when they played Bruins in Boston and beat them. By the end of the year they were tired and slow.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:49 PM

They aren't being lazy....

Edler as well as Garrison and Kesler are recovering from injuries and the twins, burr, hammer, juice, ect. are all aging and their window in their prime is closing, therefore a year of rest for them isn't a bad thing.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:00 PM

Instead of a negative, uninformed opinion, why not simply rely on some facts.

Canucks record two seasons ago:

October: 4-3-2
Novemvber: 8-4-1
December: 11-1-2
January: 8-2-4

Canucks record last season:

October: 5-5-1
November: 9-4-0
December: 10-4-1
January: 7-2-2

Shortened season? Who cares? Luongo is the slow starter. The Canucks - slow-ish for ten games, and then bang.
Nothing to worry about.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:00 PM

At the January 12th mark last season we were in first in the Western Conference.

Not sure where this notion comes from that we haven't been good in the first half of the season. Sure we've struggled during November, but this team has caught fire in December and January.

If that happens in a 48 game schedule it would mean that they would be rolling heading into the playoffs.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:06 PM

You and your horrible negative threads.........I dont think you a fan.........
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 12:01 AM

The thing that seemed to get this team year in and year out was attrition. Me thinks a 48 games schedule will do them wonders.

However, this season will probably be the canucks best and last shot at a cup with this core. After that, we're gonna have to tear apart the roster to comply with a $60M cap. Burrows gets a raise, Higgins and Lapierre are due for raises, and most importantly....Edler gets a raise.

Unless our prospects make some drastic improvements over the upcoming summer, this is our last shot.
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 12:08 AM

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 12:18 AM

How do you know that they're "stuck IN their couches"?....I know the Sedins, in particular, take their fitness very seriously and that doesn't just end with hockey. These guys have had grueling schedules and long seasons where injuries have been a factor. The rest may just do them some good and it won't take them long to find their legs, etc. once they hit the ice.
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 12:21 AM

I don't think so. The Canucks have the worst travel schedule in the League and are not a very young team. The core is over 30 or close to it.

Canucks will benefit from a short season. They'll be fresh for the playoffs. Last season they peaked about 1/2 way thru the season when they played Bruins in Boston and beat them. By the end of the year they were tired and slow.


I am so sick of everyone crying about the travel, what about Detroit or Winnipeg? and we are talking about a 4hr plane ride big deal.
I live in bc and work in Pennsylvania I fly across the continent all the time, most of the time in coach. I can still function
These guys take a 4 hour flight to Boston in absolute luxury and we are suppose to feel sorry for them? It's not like they carry any bags or run around trying to make connections, they lay down and sleep or play poker with a grease ball.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 12:24 AM

They're definitely not lazing around. You cannot afford to do that as a professional athlete. Most can't anyway.
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 12:25 AM

I live in bc and work in Pennsylvania I fly across the continent all the time, most of the time in coach. I can still function


That's all good, but I don't think you're a professional athlete and "functioning" at that level is something quite different than a regular job.
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 12:44 AM

I am so sick of everyone crying about the travel, what about Detroit or Winnipeg? and we are talking about a 4hr plane ride big deal.
I live in bc and work in Pennsylvania I fly across the continent all the time, most of the time in coach. I can still function
These guys take a 4 hour flight to Boston in absolute luxury and we are suppose to feel sorry for them? It's not like they carry any bags or run around trying to make connections, they lay down and sleep or play poker with a grease ball.


Do you fly to Pennsylvania work for a few hrs and fly to another city to work for another few hours spend a night at the hotel and then fly to another city? Or do you go to Pa. stay there for an extended time and come home to Vancouver on your days off?


it is an issue. The team spends millions on attempts to mitigate the affects of travel by hiring sleep doctors to psychiatrists. Just look what Team Canada did for the Juniors team this year. Any one who has ever been on an air plane can tell you jet lag is real and traveling to different time zones affects your sleep patern. Travel is a huge issue.

Would you rather be NYR who is a 1 or 2 hr bus ride to most of their division games or Canucks who's closest trip is Calgary. Would you rather drive home a 2 hr bus ride and sleep in your own bed or sleep in a hotel room hundreds of miles away.

Also playing a sport at world class level is a lot different than waking up and going to a conference. And then having to do it again the next night after another plane ride can get pretty hard on the body.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 01:40 AM

How is it detrimental? Most people thought the season would be lost anyways...I'd just be glad to watch hockey.

Besides,
If we tank, and have a slow start...the better our draft pick will be! :)

I'm hoping for Mantha, or Lipon in the 1st, Carrier/Roy in the 2nd, and Fitzgerald in the 3rd :)
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 01:50 AM

The Canucks will win. I dono when, but they will and every game we play brings us closer to our first cup , so if you want optimism there it is.

If you want pessimism were going to lose a lot more cups than we win and every game we play brings us close to heart ache and defeat.

So this debate is really pointless as we can speculate our whole lives as to what might happen, instead of living in the moment and appreciating what is happening.

However the truth is having something to look forward too and work towards is why we do what we do. That sense of accomplishment when we complete our goals is the addiction.

Anyway you spin it is your choice, my spin is a shorter season gives us the best opportunity to win a cup this year as opposed to no season at all where no cup is awarded so let's play!
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 01:59 AM

You really think they are plastered to their couches? I know the Sedins, Raymond, Hansen, Schneider and Weise aren't. And you try hunting... David Booth is in tremendous shape. Higgins you don't have to worry about and Luongo wants to win back his job. Everyone else has taken cues from the Sedins. I bet we are the fittest team in the league when the season starts.
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 02:35 AM

Honestly, I don't think I will even be into this season much, if the canucks get eliminated in the playoffs won't really bother me. To me, I want the Canucks to win in a full season, the true grind and roller coaster of emotions.
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 02:46 AM

We are an older team with decent depth, and we will not have to do a whack of out of conference travel... we come out well in this in my books.
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 02:56 AM

If it is a drag race season I think we have the team to pull it off. We would need a stellar training camp and someone to fill that huge hole on the second line for Kes other than that I think we could do some serious damage.
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 03:29 AM

Do you fly to Pennsylvania work for a few hrs and fly to another city to work for another few hours spend a night at the hotel and then fly to another city? Or do you go to Pa. stay there for an extended time and come home to Vancouver on your days off?


it is an issue. The team spends millions on attempts to mitigate the affects of travel by hiring sleep doctors to psychiatrists. Just look what Team Canada did for the Juniors team this year. Any one who has ever been on an air plane can tell you jet lag is real and traveling to different time zones affects your sleep patern. Travel is a huge issue.

Would you rather be NYR who is a 1 or 2 hr bus ride to most of their division games or Canucks who's closest trip is Calgary. Would you rather drive home a 2 hr bus ride and sleep in your own bed or sleep in a hotel room hundreds of miles away.

Also playing a sport at world class level is a lot different than waking up and going to a conference. And then having to do it again the next night after another plane ride can get pretty hard on the body.


You are over rating it and I am under rating it i guess
NY is a bus ride to New Jersey and Long Island, Pitt, Philly, Boston are still a plane ride. Do you honestly think you can take a bus from pitt to philly? haha. look at chicago, nash, dal, actually, 90% of the league cant take a bus to any game!
It's not like its a crazy disadvantage, you make it sound like they play a home and home with the florida panthers every other day.
The kings and ducks have won cups.
Calgary is a 45 min plane ride in a luxurious private jet. Vancouver is an extra 45 min plane ride past Calgary and they are in the same division. this extra 45 mins is making this huge difference?

And god forbid if they have to go from one luxurious hotel to the other in back to back games

Life is hard playing a game you love for millions of dollars while traveling around North America.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 03:58 AM

I can see why you would mention that, and it's not all that crazy... But remember, we are still an elite team. Not just in our division, but the conference too. So we have a very good chance of making the playoffs, and that's really all the chance we need It apparently doesn't matter how many times we finish 1st in a standing, if we don't go all the way. So let's just get in there and prove what we can do!
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