Mr. Ambien Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Who decides what types? It shouldn't be political control freaks or people ignorant about guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Who decides what types? It shouldn't be political control freaks or people ignorant about guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 If it wasn't them, guns would be left alone, and perhaps in the US getting down to the real culprit behind violence and murder might gain some traction for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockhart Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Perhaps happiness is a warm gun?? According to John Lennon, the title came from the cover of a gun magazine that producer George Martin showed him: "I think he showed me a cover of a magazine that said 'Happiness Is a Warm Gun.' It was a gun magazine. I just thought it was a fantastic, insane thing to say. A warm gun means you just shot something." Somewhat ironic, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 How many guns are there in this country though, 7 million or so? that's a very small percentage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 He was talking about heroin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Sorry, I keep forgetting....who (or what) is the "real" culprit again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 In the case of Americans and violence? Or with you and not reading the many responses where I've clearly stated more needs to be figured out about what's behind it? I keep forgetting.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Well, that's a pretty convoluted answer. It appears that you're saying you don't know what the reason is, but it isn't guns. Is that about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Well, that's a pretty convoluted answer. It appears that you're saying you don't know what the reason is, but it isn't guns. Is that about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Guns are systematically blamed by gun control / anti-gun nuts each and every time this happens in the US. Gun control has been tried, gun bans have been tried, assault weapon bans have been tried. It doesn't stop murders, it doesn't stop access to guns by criminals. It's not worked. I'd suggest another approach but some people are still stuck on the same cursory and hackneyed approach to a more complex problem. The solution is doing more research, getting to the bottom of the cause of American violence and murder, finding better ways to detect and prevent these occurrences. Right now it's an unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Except where the research provides overwhelming evidence that gun control policies did work..... I don't know how many times I've cited this link to people like yourself. Most of the time the research is just ignored. I expect the same from you, but it would serve your own argument well if you could respond to and refute such statistics. http://www.theatlant...oCSc9gDE.mailto Would love to see you provide some actual research (i.e. empirical studies by people who aren't yourself) to support these 'opinions' that you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I already have in another topic: Research showing at best minimal, but likely no effect resulting from the federal assault weapons ban (the most popular "solution" touted on the forums): https://www.ncjrs.go...ants/204431.pdf Research showing more guns, less crime: http://www.sciencedi...14481889800012X I don't know how many times I've cited links like this to people like yourself, but I plan on it being ignored. Gun control laws and bans don't show anything, other than the very distinct ability to reduce law abiding people's ability to defend themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 As the actual study states, the methodology involved in the study you support was extremely flawed. Now I remember you, you're the one who does not understand cause-effect relationships: /topic/337362-27-dead-in-connecticut-elementary-school-shooting/page__st__240__p__11015241#entry11015241">http://forum.canucks...1#entry11015241 In your assault weapon study, only approximately 2% of all gun crimes involve such weapons, meaning that it is pretty difficult to reduce crime rates when you focus on such a small proportion of the overall rate. EDIT: From the study you cited: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kazin! Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Go tell them I own a gun, and I have no mental health illnesses. I'll stress this more (and in caps) - NO MENTAL HEALTH ILLNESSES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadiancon Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Yes I've heard of it, just like I've heard of people being killed by sharks or vending machines. So what? Maybe your situation is safe and sound, but try a quick Google on 'accidental' shooting or similar and you'll find a number of hits I'm sure. The whole safe and sound thing doesn't really make sense either though cause if the point is defense against intruder, and you need to get the key, unlock it and load it, well, seems like that would take longer than a crazed rapist would likely give you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadiancon Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luineul Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Zaibatsu, would you enlighten me and show me how tougher gun control in the past has failed, in the US? And that is where you are wrong. It takes about 5 seconds to unlock my safe and grab a gun. No one could even sprint through my house and make it to the basement to my room, so someone in the dark trying to be quiet with a German Shepard trying to eat them wouldn't stand a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 And that is where you are wrong. It takes about 5 seconds to unlock my safe and grab a gun. No one could even sprint through my house and make it to the basement to my room, so someone in the dark trying to be quiet with a German Shepard trying to eat them wouldn't stand a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 The solution is doing more research, getting to the bottom of the cause of American violence and murder, finding better ways to detect and prevent these occurrences. Right now it's an unknown, so more information is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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