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#31 playboi19

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:09 PM

A young franchise goaltender signed @4M

Patrick Kane.
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:13 PM

Schneider was re - signed to a 3 year extension because his previous contract had expired. If he wasn't given term (3years) Schneider would still need to be qualified (1 year) in order for Canucks to hold his rights. He would be UFA at the end of this season and left to play for another team as a free agent. Obviously MG was going to sign him to a 3 year deal, he wouldn't be the GM if he didn't.

No one knows whats going to happen 100%. Not even MG. A lost of things will depend on the details of the next CBA.
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:15 PM

Saying Corey has won the starters position is fantasyland, bud. He started Game 5, I can't remember who started the other four games and the majority of that seasons games...whats his name?

Cory also started Game 3, lost that one but rebounded in Game 4 and only allowed one goal for the W.

I've said this many times before that the only way Schneider gets traded is if the offer MG gets for him is astronomical.
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:26 PM

Freakin Duncan Keith. Pisses me off every time I think about the elbow to Daniel's head.
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:40 PM

schneider and edler are going nowhere, fingnowhere. If we lose Edler and the return isnt massive, Gillis should be fired.
Gillis is a great GM but he has made some bonehead moves. Nonis did 1 good thing while he was here and he did a bunch of crap-traded away tons of draft picks, wasted other draft picks on russians. Burke was so-so, all huff and puff.
Please Gillis, just play t safe, keep schneids, keep eddie and just move Luongo for one good asset,not three mediocre assets.
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:43 PM

Okey dokey. If his time here is done now, why wasn't it done in June of 2011?

I'll accept it either way, Corey or Lu, but I think we may all be in for a surprise when hockey returns.


Well let's put 50 bucks on it... i'll take Lou being traded and Cory staying. Are you in or are you just full of b.s.?
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 09:01 PM

Already said I wouldn't put money on it.

It could go any 1 of 3 ways. If 1 of them has to be traded, we need to get as much in return as possible, wheher it's Lu or Schneids.

Edited by scottiecanuck, 31 December 2012 - 09:07 PM.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 11:25 PM

Why can't this just end! For the love of god all of this foolish nonsense is torture. What more does a man need to do to shake this cult off his back, he sucks in the playoffs, makes blatant statements that proclaim his desire to move on yet people come up with these homo erotic fantasies of a greasy Italian carrying to Swedish men on his back through the month if June while a red head boston boy watches in defeat. Please god strike me down
Poke my eyes out I have seen enough
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 11:57 PM

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edit: and what I mean by that is this thread and topic has been shytekicked over and over.

Edited by MC Fatigue, 31 December 2012 - 11:58 PM.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 12:02 AM

We are not trading Schneider!
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 09:11 AM

Already said I wouldn't put money on it.

It could go any 1 of 3 ways. If 1 of them has to be traded, we need to get as much in return as possible, wheher it's Lu or Schneids.


Ok fair enough, but get over it and accept that Lou will be the one getting traded guaranteed!
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 10:43 AM

I'm always leery when someone tells me that something is a "Guarantee" but I'll be happy either way.
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 11:57 AM

....although Lou has led us to the playoffs , that is not the prize. I believe just about any NHL goalie could ! However, Lou has faltered in the playoffs and thats the problem. He has been inconsistant from game to game. Schneider came in against LA and showed that great goaltending gives you a chance to win. I doubt MG has forgotten that and it seems appearant that they have opted for Schneids going forward. Of course, there is always a chance that an offer might be presented that makes it impossible to turn down, but a lot of teams have asked about Schneids and MG has declined all it seems. I think we will see Schneids as #1 next season. I stated before, I believe a trade for Lou is agreed to in principal awaiting a new CBA.


You are illusioned by your mangina vibrating to the tune of Schneider's pecks.

The Canucks, nor any other team had a chance against L.A., Luongo or Schneider, especially with Daniel out and Kesler half injured.

Any goalie could lead this team to the playoffs??? Any? Really? Think about it for a second.

You're falling faster then lead in free space. No one "opted for Schneider going forward"; that is an assumption by both the media and fans. The Canucks called it quits and showcased Schneider. Gillis has certainly refused weak Schneider offers. What you fail to mention is that he has also refused weak Luongo offers, as he is still a Canucks and not a Panther or a Leaf. I think we'll see Schneider as #1 indeed,
somewhere in the league but most likely not with the Canucks.

"I stated before"... You sure did... many times... without any factual evidence as per discussed numerous times. Also, your word is not credible, as per discussed numerous times.

In before you blow your own horn, again, with your forty years of knowledge regarding the technicality of goaltending... as per discussed numerous times.

Edited by Canucks_Hockey_101, 01 January 2013 - 12:24 PM.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 12:11 PM

I like the red-head. I actually want Lu to be traded. But just to answer your question, I think 3-early first rounders and 2 blue chip prospects would do it.

The reason being, Schneids is a proven goalie who's excellent technically and a leader. It's very rare to find someone like him.


Proven?

Schneider
Regular Season
68GP
Playoffs
8GP

Luongo
Regular Season
727GP
Playoffs
61GP

Who is proven again?
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 12:17 PM

schneider and edler are going nowhere, fingnowhere. If we lose Edler and the return isnt massive, Gillis should be fired.
Gillis is a great GM but he has made some bonehead moves. Nonis did 1 good thing while he was here and he did a bunch of crap-traded away tons of draft picks, wasted other draft picks on russians. Burke was so-so, all huff and puff.
Please Gillis, just play t safe, keep schneids, keep eddie and just move Luongo for one good asset,not three mediocre assets.


Please Gillis, just play it safe; keep Luongo and go public to defend the greatest athlete to ever wear a Vacouver uniform, continue to exercise your amazing patience in developing a great goaltending prospect and wait for the calls to pour in and take the best offer at the trade deadline.

Schneider package for a 1D.

Canucks win the Cup.

I would consider Schneider for Leaf's Rielly an absolutely fair deal, as Rielly has not been poisoned by the Leafs world yet. I would also consider Schneider for Columbus' Ryan Murray perfectly fair.

Edited by Canucks_Hockey_101, 01 January 2013 - 12:29 PM.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 12:39 PM

Please Gillis, just play it safe; keep Luongo and go public to defend the greatest athlete to ever wear a Vacouver uniform, continue to exercise your amazing patience in developing a great goaltending prospect and wait for the calls to pour in and take the best offer at the trade deadline.

Schneider package for a 1D.

Canucks win the Cup.

I would consider Schneider for Leaf's Rielly an absolutely fair deal, as Rielly has not been poisoned by the Leafs world yet. I would also consider Schneider for Columbus' Ryan Murray perfectly fair.


Schneider for a "1D" - that being the 18 year old 1D of the Moose Jaw Warriors in the WHL?
And you want to make jokes about Smurf's "mangina"?"
An 18 year old = "Canucks win the Cup".
You talk pretty tough for someone who makes claims like that.
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 01:33 PM

source/quote por favor?


Yep, months without a single 1st source or 2nd source quote from anyone here on CDC. But listening to the media and buying it like cheap burgers on sale is the fad. So be it. I'm also still waiting for legitimate sources.
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 01:36 PM

Schneider for a "1D" - that being the 18 year old 1D of the Moose Jaw Warriors in the WHL?
And you want to make jokes about Smurf's "mangina"?"
An 18 year old = "Canucks win the Cup".
You talk pretty tough for someone who makes claims like that.


Yep, let him play if not this year, the next and let him learn the ropes in the bigs and turn him into the next Doughty; do not let him rot in the minors for the next decade and call him up when there's an injury; with Salo gone, that's even more seldom now.
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 01:40 PM

A young franchise goaltender signed @4M

Patrick Kane.


Now you're talking.
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 01:56 PM

Who comes up with these crapty nicknames?
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 08:14 PM

Schneider's value is equal to the 26th overall pick in the 2004 NHL entry draft.
That's the guy the Canucks are interested in.
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 09:03 PM

For Schneider you want an established star back in return.
Schneider can easily have 10-12 years in the league as a teams cornerstone piece.

Logan Couture comes to mind. That type of player, however San Jose might be hard pressed to acquire him with the sieve Niemi taking up valuable cap space.

Schneider will get you a Couture level player at the least.
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 09:17 PM

Do you realize the situation of keeping Luongo becomes toxic every year?
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 10:05 PM

For Schneider you want an established star back in return.
Schneider can easily have 10-12 years in the league as a teams cornerstone piece.

Logan Couture comes to mind. That type of player, however San Jose might be hard pressed to acquire him with the sieve Niemi taking up valuable cap space.

Schneider will get you a Couture level player at the least.



I agree that San Jose needs a Canuck goaltender.

Luongo for Couture.

San Jose has tasted elimination at Luongo's hands year after year.

Niemi to Toronto for who cares what - Kadri to 'replace' Couture...

It hurts San Jose to give up Couture, but they still have Thornton, Pavelski (a 30 goal scorer) for their second line, and pick up the much vaunted (on CDC anyway) Nazem Kadri, and still have Handzus for their 3rd line.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 07:01 PM

I agree that San Jose needs a Canuck goaltender.

Luongo for Couture.

San Jose has tasted elimination at Luongo's hands year after year.

Niemi to Toronto for who cares what - Kadri to 'replace' Couture...

It hurts San Jose to give up Couture, but they still have Thornton, Pavelski (a 30 goal scorer) for their second line, and pick up the much vaunted (on CDC anyway) Nazem Kadri, and still have Handzus for their 3rd line.


You are one of the most intelligent posters on here IMO but man oh man do you overvalue Luongo I would hate to be a realestate agent trying to sell your house.


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 07:29 PM

Just because a bunch of bandwagoners and hackjob media speculate a trade, doesn't mean it's gonna happen.
How often does a trade that is rumoured to happen actually happen? Very rarely. When someone gets traded, it almost always catches people off guard and no-one saw it coming.

If Corey had won the starting job, why didn't he start the series?

He didn't win the starting job, he was being showcased at the end of the series so that other teams could see he's not just a flash in the pan and would be able to handle himself in the playoffs.

...wake up bonehead...no team showcases a goalie when vying for the Stanly Cup ! He was put in because Lou gave up 7 goals in 2 games and stunk on 3 of them !!!
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 07:37 PM

Please Gillis, just play it safe; keep Luongo and go public to defend the greatest athlete to ever wear a Vacouver uniform, continue to exercise your amazing patience in developing a great goaltending prospect and wait for the calls to pour in and take the best offer at the trade deadline.

Schneider package for a 1D.

Canucks win the Cup.

I would consider Schneider for Leaf's Rielly an absolutely fair deal, as Rielly has not been poisoned by the Leafs world yet. I would also consider Schneider for Columbus' Ryan Murray perfectly fair.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:17 PM

Whichever goaltender stays here doesn't matter we will be more than well-off with either one of them, our problem the last 2 years in the playoffs has been OFFENSE. in the last 2 playoff series we've scored 16 goals in 12 games that is absolutely pathetic, whichever goalie will beef up our offense more in a trade is the move they will make.


The way things usually go for the Canucks we'll trade Luongo and then whichever team he ends up on will win the cup and we'll look like tools

Edited by Primus099, 02 January 2013 - 09:20 PM.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:54 PM

Whichever goaltender stays here doesn't matter we will be more than well-off with either one of them, our problem the last 2 years in the playoffs has been OFFENSE. in the last 2 playoff series we've scored 16 goals in 12 games that is absolutely pathetic, whichever goalie will beef up our offense more in a trade is the move they will make.


The way things usually go for the Canucks we'll trade Luongo and then whichever team he ends up on will win the cup and we'll look like tools

...well..your ace goalie gives up 7 goals has a SP of .891...not going to win with him are you? On the flip side, your so-called backup, gives up only 4 goals in 3 games and has an SP of .960...so, LA didn;t score a lot on Schneider. Maybe if we had started Schneider we would not have been in a 0-2 hole...just maybe?
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:29 PM

...well..your ace goalie gives up 7 goals has a SP of .891...not going to win with him are you? On the flip side, your so-called backup, gives up only 4 goals in 3 games and has an SP of .960...so, LA didn;t score a lot on Schneider. Maybe if we had started Schneider we would not have been in a 0-2 hole...just maybe?


great he gave up 4 goals in 3 games, and we still lost 2 of those 3 games. So what was the problem? Offense

I don't care if your goalie is letting in 20 goals if your team can't score it's irrelevant. Look at the Flyers/Penguins this past year that series was ridiculous but because both teams offense's were going it didn't matter if their goalie let in 7 goals in a game cause they went down and scored 8. What was Bryzgalov's GAA for the series like 3+? yet his team still won the series

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