WiDeN Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 He's only 33.3% in the shootout though, so he can't be that good. He is also buoyed by the fact that he is being handed powerplay time on a silver platter. He's probably also juicing. I sure hope we didn't trade Hodgson for a juicing goon that only puts up points in the first 10 games and then disappears. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm often not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonfruits Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 He's only 33.3% in the shootout though, so he can't be that good. He is also buoyed by the fact that he is being handed powerplay time on a silver platter. He's probably also juicing. I sure hope we didn't trade Hodgson for a juicing goon that only puts up points in the first 10 games and then disappears. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm often not. are you joking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 He's only 33.3% in the shootout though, so he can't be that good. He is also buoyed by the fact that he is being handed powerplay time on a silver platter. He's probably also juicing. I sure hope we didn't trade Hodgson for a juicing goon that only puts up points in the first 10 games and then disappears. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm often not. Lol, I don't think you're serious... but not sure.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orca Canoe Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I think you could put almost any player on the team with the Sedens and they'd have three goals by now, but maybe not five Excluding Louongo of course but Schneids might even get one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiDeN Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 are you joking? Lol, I don't think you're serious... but not sure.. Guys... come on. Does it even remotely sound like I might be joking? This is super serious stuff. WE MIGHT HAVE A BUST ON OUR HANDS! I guess that worked out OK for Mozart though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedMachine Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I think you could put almost any player on the team with the Sedens and they'd have three goals by now, but maybe not five Excluding Louongo of course but Schneids might even get one If the Sedins were actually playing well, you might be right. Kassian is the best player on the line right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiDeN Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 If the Sedins were actually playing well, you might be right. Kassian is the best player on the line right now. They were looking really good last night, even though they only managed to set up the one goal. It was their best game this season. Kassian definitely completes that lines better than anyone we've seen yet. Burrows could put the puck in the net with the Twins, but he didn't bring the other aspects that Kassian does, and is more valuable to the rest of the line up than he does on the first line. The situation is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLLmAtlc Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Can we just let this topic die already? It's really not humorous like the Burrows one because this guy is most likely a troll and just looking for attention anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Now that Kassian's essentially played the same amount of games in the AHL this season as he did last, I thought I'd have a look at the numbers to see how exactly he's "developing" (generous term). WARNING: this ain't pretty 2011-12: 30 GP, 15 G, 26 P, +4, 94 SOG, 31 PIM 2012-13: 28 GP, 6 G, 18 P, -1, 72 SOG, 59 PIM By my calculations, this amounts to the following data comparatives:60% year-over-year reduction in goals31% year-over-year reduction in points18% year-over-year reduction in SOG/game90% year-over-year increase in PIMs.And, to be honest, the two things that are of the most concern to me are the decline in SOG and the increase in PIM. There's really no explanation for getting less SOG as a 22 year-old AHL sophomore than as a 21 year-old AHL rookie. And this SOG figure is even inflated, as Kass did have 7 SOG last game, bringing up his average significantly. And while it's nice that he does seem willing to throw the body, at times, and drop the gloves, at times, I really hope that we didn't trade Cody Hodgson for a bottom-six goon that will be lucky to get 5 - 10 goals per year in limited minutes. I'm beginning to wonder if Kassian has a bit of "Kyle Beach" in him; capable of so much, too stupid to realize it and in the penalty box way, way too much. Let's not forget that Kassian was hand held by the Sedin's in the off-season to try and get his training habits in shape (not a good sign), and even went on to be a healthy scratch in 1 (or more, I'm not sure) game, also (clearly) not a good sign. Who else is concerned? I really enjoyed reading this post, and even more the 10 +'s it had. I knew the comparable stats as if stats alone matter was a problem when comparing AHL to NHL production of a player to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Looks like Canucks management are finally realizing the value of developing young talent on the parent team. Both Kas an Schroeder have looked better that they did on the Wolves. Good players learn more from playing with good players. But I agree with the post earlier, it's time to end this thread. We all know that Kass has a great future ahead of him. Time to except it and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Kassian is doing really well but he was slotted on to the line due to multiple injuries,not because he 'earned it'. That is ridiculous to the point of star bursting trolling extraordinaire. Could be you are devoid of hockey common sense because it is ridicuous to even suggest he 'earned it'. How,when,where? Certainly not with his play on this team last season. He could not even be trusted to be slotted in on the last game of the playoffs - on the fourth line. Troll la la la la I don't think you quite understand the concept of "trolling". Praising a player is not trolling. Being rediculously critical (or simply making up pure bs) to irritate, insult, or incite, is trolling. Players earn their spot be seizing their opportunities. Last year Kassian failed to seize his opportunities and ended up in the press box in the playoffs. That was last year. In the off-season he worked out hard and came back in much better shape. Opportunity came again and this time he seized opportunity by the nuts and hasn't stopped crushing them. Thus earning his spot and ice time this year. Whether or not he can hold on to that spot when Kesler and Booth return is yet to be seen. That sir is "hockey common sense". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted February 2, 2013 Author Share Posted February 2, 2013 Which injuries slotted him into Burrows spot? The fact that a guy like Max Lapierre would otherwise be the 2C is what motivated the move to put Burrows down a line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmployeeoftheMonth Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 The fact that a guy like Max Lapierre would otherwise be the 2C is what motivated the move to put Burrows down a line. Which has what to do with him staying in that position and earning PP time? If he stays in a top 6 role when Kesler is back would he also have been gifted the spot? At what point will you say he's earned the opportunity to be there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrippledCanuck Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Which has what to do with him staying in that position and earning PP time? If he stays in a top 6 role when Kesler is back would he also have been gifted the spot? At what point will you say he's earned the opportunity to be there? King will never admit they are wrong because trolls are only here to incite and annoy, hence why this particular troll just got off having the account suspended and from the posts this troll has made since back off suspension, the ban hammer can't be far along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 The fact that a guy like Max Lapierre would otherwise be the 2C is what motivated the move to put Burrows down a line. Thus creating an opportunity for Kassian to seize. Has he succeeded or failed in seizing this opportunity? Do you recall at all how Burrows got to the first line and managed to stay there??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted February 2, 2013 Author Share Posted February 2, 2013 Which has what to do with him staying in that position and earning PP time? If he stays in a top 6 role when Kesler is back would he also have been gifted the spot? At what point will you say he's earned the opportunity to be there? Not sure what you're trying to say. The slaughtering of the Canucks by Anaheim in game 1 is what led to Kassian being moved to the first line. It was clear that there just was not enough depth/scoring on this team, which drove AV to move Burrows to a 2C role. Kassian has seized this opportunity - kudos to him. Whether or not he has "earned" it is a pointless debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniwaki Canuck Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Agreed that good players get better when playing with other good players. I am as pleasantly surprised by Kassian and Schroeder as the next person, but expect that they were told to work on certain parts of their game with the Wolves so that they wouldn't be a liability when they got the call-up. Despite what was said to Schroeder a couple of years ago, it wasn't a question of lighting it up in the AHL before getting a chance in the NHL. He just needed to learn how to play a complete pro game against bigger men, just like Kassian needed to become defensively responsible. With that groundwork in place, they are in a position to break out in the NHL, but it had to be in place. It's great to see how far Kassian has come since he joined us and to put all the drama about Hodgson and our supposedly closing window behind us. We have some really solid young players entering the lineup this year and will have a few more in the next couple of years. I think our forward group is going improve when Jensen and Gaunce make the jump, and that we are retooling nicely on the fly, without having to tank like our hillbilly friends in Alberta. Looks like Canucks management are finally realizing the value of developing young talent on the parent team. Both Kas an Schroeder have looked better that they did on the Wolves. Good players learn more from playing with good players. But I agree with the post earlier, it's time to end this thread. We all know that Kass has a great future ahead of him. Time to except it and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi Babe Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Not sure what you're trying to say. The slaughtering of the Canucks by Anaheim in game 1 is what led to Kassian being moved to the first line. It was clear that there just was not enough depth/scoring on this team, which drove AV to move Burrows to a 2C role. Kassian has seized this opportunity - kudos to him. Whether or not he has "earned" it is a pointless debate. Yet you created it......go figure, eh? THAT, sunshine, is trolling. So happy to know you are in possession of such impressive mind reading skills regarding how/why Kassian was moved to the first line.......quick, what are the next 6/49 numbers to be drawn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Here's the point you've missed, ES. The coaches/management decide and, with that, they've decided he's earned his spot in the lineup - it's their decision to make, not yours/mine. The fact that they select him to do ______ means he's earned it (the opportunity, if not the permanent spot) . That's how hockey goes sometimes...as lines are juggled to cover injuries or other issues, players will be slotted in and, with that, have earned that opportunity. The management/coach are in control of who/what is earned....it isn't rocket science. If they've juggled Burr around to fill a void and Kass gets slotted in, he's earned the trust/support from those in charge who decide on the assignments. You may not feel he's WORTHY of the spot, but you're not the one to make the assignments and, with that, determine who's earned them. Wordy, but it shouldn't have to be because it's pretty basic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Anyhow....yes, opposing goaltenders, be warned: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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