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Posted 31 December 2012 - 03:41 PM

Priest Blames Domestic Violence on Lack of Domesticity, Housework by Women

ESTHER ZUCKERMAN DEC 27, 2012

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2012/12/priest-blames-domestic-violence-lack-domesticity-housework-women/60370/

The Pope may have called for peace during his Christmas message, but the Italian Catholic community was thrust into controversy over the holiday when a priest posted on his church's bulletin board a text about domestic violence against women that seemed to place blame on the victims. The text was also posted on the Catholic website Pontifex.roma.it, which L'Huffington Post says has a reputation for being homophobic, anti-Semitic, and racist. On that site it was attributed to Bruno Volpe, who has written in support of the priest, Piero Corsi. The screed claimed that men can't have possibly
just turned violent — and that women who don't take care of homes must share the blame for violence. Reuters has a translation and la Repubblica has an image of the flyer itself.


Babies left to themselves, dirty houses, cold meals and fast food at home, soiled clothes. So if a family ends up in a mess and turns into crime (a form of violence which should be condemned and punished firmly) often the responsibility is shared.


The text also blamed women for wearing provocative clothing.

James Mackenzie of Reuters explained the extent of the problem of violence against women in Italy, noting a UN report which found that a third of Italian women had been reported being domestic violence victims, and 127 women were murdered by men in 2010 for "honor, men's unemployment and jealousy by the perpetrator."

Now, let's also point out that the the priest responsible for posting the note, Piero Corsi, has a nasty habit of posting offensive and inflammatory items to the bulletin board. He previously put up cartoons lampooning Islam. And Mark Easter of L'Huffington Post explained that in responding to a journalist's question about his recent controversy Corsi lashed out with an anti-gay slur.

Mackenzie reported that both the mayor of the village of San Terenzo di Lerici that houses the church and the bishop of the province denounced the flyer. Reports of Corsi's resignation were later contradicted.


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Posted 31 December 2012 - 03:52 PM

Priest Blames Domestic Violence on Lack of Domesticity, Housework by Women

ESTHER ZUCKERMAN DEC 27, 2012

http://www.theatlant...rk-women/60370/

The Pope may have called for peace during his Christmas message, but the Italian Catholic community was thrust into controversy over the holiday when a priest posted on his church's bulletin board a text about domestic violence against women that seemed to place blame on the victims. The text was also posted on the Catholic website Pontifex.roma.it, which L'Huffington Post says has a reputation for being homophobic, anti-Semitic, and racist. On that site it was attributed to Bruno Volpe, who has written in support of the priest, Piero Corsi. The screed claimed that men can't have possibly
just turned violent — and that women who don't take care of homes must share the blame for violence. Reuters has a translation and la Repubblica has an image of the flyer itself.


Babies left to themselves, dirty houses, cold meals and fast food at home, soiled clothes. So if a family ends up in a mess and turns into crime (a form of violence which should be condemned and punished firmly) often the responsibility is shared.


The text also blamed women for wearing provocative clothing.

James Mackenzie of Reuters explained the extent of the problem of violence against women in Italy, noting a UN report which found that a third of Italian women had been reported being domestic violence victims, and 127 women were murdered by men in 2010 for "honor, men's unemployment and jealousy by the perpetrator."

Now, let's also point out that the the priest responsible for posting the note, Piero Corsi, has a nasty habit of posting offensive and inflammatory items to the bulletin board. He previously put up cartoons lampooning Islam. And Mark Easter of L'Huffington Post explained that in responding to a journalist's question about his recent controversy Corsi lashed out with an anti-gay slur.

Mackenzie reported that both the mayor of the village of San Terenzo di Lerici that houses the church and the bishop of the province denounced the flyer. Reports of Corsi's resignation were later contradicted.


This is not meant as a blanket statement about religion but ..........Why is it that so many who think like this hateful, ignorant, fool hide behind religion?

Edited by nuckin_futz, 31 December 2012 - 03:55 PM.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 03:57 PM

Idiot, as if domestic violence wasn't more common back in "the good old days" or in societies where women still don't have much power.
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 04:01 PM

Someone want to tell the Catholic Church the 1950's are over?
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 04:19 PM

Someone want to tell the Catholic Church the 1950's are over?


putting the domestic abuse issue aside, which is ludicrous, there a lot of good things about a traditional, 50's style relationship marriage. A lot of women enjoy that traditional role of being the home maker as that's the way it's been for humans for a cpl million years. I think a lot of "modern women" are unhappy in their dogged pursuit of the traditional male role in society because they are denying the role women have fulfilled since the human species walked the earth.

That said, no woman should be forced into that role and everyone should be free to choose the life they want.
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 04:33 PM

putting the domestic abuse issue aside, which is ludicrous, there a lot of good things about a traditional, 50's style relationship marriage. A lot of women enjoy that traditional role of being the home maker as that's the way it's been for humans for a cpl million years. I think a lot of "modern women" are unhappy in their dogged pursuit of the traditional male role in society because they are denying the role women have fulfilled since the human species walked the earth.

That said, no woman should be forced into that role and everyone should be free to choose the life they want.


I was mostly calling the mentality into question. "A woman's place is in the kitchen"...that kind of nonsense. It's 2012...and I don't know very many women from my generation on at least that want a whole lot to do with the "traditional" gender roles as it relates to this society. There are high profile females in politics, sports, journalism, even in the business world..they are admirable women...and they certainly didn't get to where they are by slaving over a stove, waiting on their husband hand and foot and pumping out a unit every nine months. The Catholic church has always been bass ackwards when it comes to their views on women, and this is really nothing we didn't already know.
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Well I tell you what Heretic..if Tim Tebow becomes Terry Bradshaw I will shave off all my hair, convert to Christianity, go into the ministry and become a preacher.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 04:40 PM

lololol
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 04:45 PM

The church finally got one right.
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 04:46 PM

I was mostly calling the mentality into question. "A woman's place is in the kitchen"...that kind of nonsense. It's 2012...and I don't know very many women from my generation on at least that want a whole lot to do with the "traditional" gender roles as it relates to this society. There are high profile females in politics, sports, journalism, even in the business world..they are admirable women...and they certainly didn't get to where they are by slaving over a stove, waiting on their husband hand and foot and pumping out a unit every nine months. The Catholic church has always been bass ackwards when it comes to their views on women, and this is really nothing we didn't already know.


Spoken (written?) by a truly enlightened man! ::D

Edited by Bertuzzi Babe, 31 December 2012 - 04:47 PM.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 04:47 PM

I suffered domestic abuse last night, the issue wasn't so much my lack of fufilling domestic duties but the results of the Dos Santos-Velasquez fight.

I don't think she even meant to hit me but I happened to get a bloody lip because she's so uncoordinated.
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 04:48 PM

Spoken (written?) by a truly enlightened man! ::D


Well-behaved women seldom make history, babe ;)
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 04:49 PM

I suffered domestic abuse last night, the issue wasn't so much my lack of fufilling domestic duties but the results of the Dos Santos-Velasquez fight.

I don't think she even meant to hit me but I happened to get a bloody lip because she's so uncoordinated.


:lol:

You need to learn to duck faster, ER! :P


Well-behaved women seldom make history, babe ;)


Ain't that just the gosh darned truth, MM! B)

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 04:51 PM

:lol:

You need to learn to duck faster, ER! :P



Yeah or taunt less, however whenever a Chicano fighter beats a Brazilian fighter (she's Brazilian) in our presence, I can't help myself...
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 05:04 PM

Idiot, as if domestic violence wasn't more common back in "the good old days" or in societies where women still don't have much power.


I doubt domestic violence has increased or decreased much, it just nowadays women don't feel as afraid to come forward about it.

That's my opinion anyway.
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 05:24 PM

I was mostly calling the mentality into question. "A woman's place is in the kitchen"...that kind of nonsense. It's 2012...and I don't know very many women from my generation on at least that want a whole lot to do with the "traditional" gender roles as it relates to this society. There are high profile females in politics, sports, journalism, even in the business world..they are admirable women...and they certainly didn't get to where they are by slaving over a stove, waiting on their husband hand and foot and pumping out a unit every nine months. The Catholic church has always been bass ackwards when it comes to their views on women, and this is really nothing we didn't already know.


I know many women who choose that role..........if its the role they, themselves, choose, does it make them any less admirable? I think raising a family and taking care of a household is as admirable as it gets.

when I get home from work, there is a drink, snack, and a clean house waiting for me when I walk in the door. I don't ask this of her, it's what makes her feel good.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 05:27 PM

I doubt domestic violence has increased or decreased much, it just nowadays women don't feel as afraid to come forward about it.

That's my opinion anyway.

It's changed but not enough. In fact only a few hours ago I was given a reminder:

A friend of mine back in California is essentially trapped in her own head as to what to do. I was the only real friend she had there, she stupidly got herself into an awful predicament dating a coworker that she supervises, moved in with him, only to have him become extremely abusive, choking, kicking, and punching her, especially following extensive drinking. She's young (21'ish) so she sees battered woman shelters as "embarrassing", she can't go to her family because when she lived with them she was so depressed she wanted to kill herself, she has no self esteem whatsoever (thus an automatic magnet for losers and scum), she can't even get help from her boss who I know she trusts but cannot be trusted with sensitive information like that because it would put her job in jeopardy if anyone reported it, and the grand finale.. she just took 3 pregnancy tests with a positive result. I've tried everything to get her to seek help including having a friend of mine in town check on her occasionally because I'm afraid this guy will wind up in a fight with her and inadvertently killing her. It puts an awful feeling in the bottom of my stomach and I wish many things upon this guy that would get me banned to express. I just hope she can get away. Make enough friends and you'll find abuse is still all too common, and unreported out of fear.

Edited by zaibatsu, 31 December 2012 - 05:29 PM.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 05:31 PM

More oral sex on both sides, and less oral debate, is the key .. that is all .. :rolleyes:
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 05:32 PM

I know many women who choose that role..........if its the role they, themselves, choose, does it make them any less admirable? I think raising a family and taking care of a household is as admirable as it gets.

when I get home from work, there is a drink, snack, and a clean house waiting for me when I walk in the door. I don't ask this of her, it's what makes her feel good.


You genuinely believe that most women who settle for the role of a housewife WANTED to grow up to be a housewife? I'd wager that a good many of them once had much higher aspirations and because of unforeseen events had to give up on those dreams. No one chooses to be subservient to others..feeling obligated to keep up the house, clean, cook...It isn't that they've chosen "housewife" it's because they either had little choice or it was a last resort.
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 05:38 PM

You genuinely believe that most women who settle for the role of a housewife WANTED to grow up to be a housewife? I'd wager that a good many of them once had much higher aspirations and because of unforeseen events had to give up on those dreams. No one chooses to be subservient to others..feeling obligated to keep up the house, clean, cook...It isn't that they've chosen "housewife" it's because they either had little choice or it was a last resort.


Again, I know many women who choose, yes choose, that role and are very very happy and completely fulfilled. Is that so hard to believe? I think our society would be a lot better with a little more tradition regarding home and family.........that sounds a lot better than letting our children raise themselves.......or worse yet, facebook and xbox
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 05:42 PM

Being a "housewife" can be a noble undertaking .. my Mother was a teacher for over 40 years, while having 9 children .. often was the time I arrived home after school wishing she was there for a hug ..
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 05:44 PM

Again, I know many women who choose, yes choose, that role and are very very happy and completely fulfilled. Is that so hard to believe? I think our society would be a lot better with a little more tradition regarding home and family.........that sounds a lot better than letting our children raise themselves.......or worse yet, facebook and xbox


That's very odd, because almost all of the women I know...my family, my friends their mothers...are not exactly "happy and fulfilled" with their lives, and wish they'd done more with them than they have to this point. It must be an American thing...I wouldn't know about Canada...maybe your women are satisfied with the housewife role...
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 06:03 PM

It's changed but not enough.


Sad but true...

That's very odd, because almost all of the women I know...my family, my friends their mothers...are not exactly "happy and fulfilled" with their lives, and wish they'd done more with them than they have to this point. It must be an American thing...I wouldn't know about Canada...maybe your women are satisfied with the housewife role...


Not all women want to be a homemaker, not all women want to be police officers and astronauts. Everybody's different...
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 06:58 PM

Pretty sure domestic abuse existed before women's lib.

Still, our society's lack of family values could be attributed to mothers no longer raising their children. However, there are many more factors involved. Economy being a big one. Not many families can afford a single income while still paying the bills.
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 10:56 PM

More oral sex on both sides, and less oral debate, is the key .. that is all .. :rolleyes:


That'll keep their mouths shut! :lol:
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 11:32 PM

I remember asking my mother that question when I was but a lad. She said that she always wanted children( 6 boys) and when I was old enough, I could take care of my brothers while her and dad were at work. She then enjoyed being a newspaper printer for 35 years, while I got to be my brothers supreme comander for awhile.Years later she said that she had the best of both worlds. I miss you mom. RIP.
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 11:55 PM

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 12:47 AM

Spoken (written?) by a truly enlightened man! ::D

Intersting tid-bit for you...our town has the highest rate of women on men abuse cases in Canada...
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 01:46 AM

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:12 PM

You genuinely believe that most women who settle for the role of a housewife WANTED to grow up to be a housewife? I'd wager that a good many of them once had much higher aspirations and because of unforeseen events had to give up on those dreams. No one chooses to be subservient to others..feeling obligated to keep up the house, clean, cook...It isn't that they've chosen "housewife" it's because they either had little choice or it was a last resort.


I also know many women including my own family members who chose to and enjoy being a homemaker. Many of them have also had professional jobs but chose to leave them to raise kids. I don't think they necessarily enjoyed cleaning and stuff like that, it's the raising a family part that makes it worthwhile and enjoyable to them. It doesn't just apply to women either, many people of both genders who have good jobs want to spend more time with their family.

Obviously no one should be forced to be a housewife, but if they want to there's nothing wrong with that. At least when kids are young, it's better to have someone around to take care of them (whether it's the father or the mother).
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:46 PM

I know many women who choose that role..........if its the role they, themselves, choose, does it make them any less admirable? I think raising a family and taking care of a household is as admirable as it gets.

when I get home from work, there is a drink, snack, and a clean house waiting for me when I walk in the door. I don't ask this of her, it's what makes her feel good.


Sounds great, you have a nice maid.
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