Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

TOMapleLaughs

NHL will Allow Teams Two Contract Buyouts for '13-'14. Who are yours?

123 posts in this topic

Fyi. Mason Raymond and Manny Malhotra are UFA's for the season in question. So please stop suggesting their buyouts or people will snap.

Michael Grange of Sportsnet reported on Thursday that the NHL has agreed to two compliance buyouts per team for the 2013-14 season, likely beginning this offseason.

The NHL’s initial offer in this round of bargaining included a one-time buyout whose money would not count against the salary cap but would count against the players’ share of hockey related revenue. That the players agreed to this “keeping money outside the system” provision, and accepted a second buyout, is a significant concession.

Then again, taking a dozen elephantine contracts off the books next season could be beneficial to the players. With the salary cap dropping – the NHL wants a $60 million cap while the NHLPA is asking for a $65 million cap – the union wants to keep its escrow withholdings from spiraling upward. The fewer teams pressed up against the upper limit of the cap, the better the chances are that escrow wouldn’t balloon.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Compliance buyouts wouldn't count towards the cap,

The cap for that season might be as low as $60mil. Our big UFA is of course Edler.

Gillis is not a fan of buyouts, but he may have to do it if he wants to keep Edler. Massive speculation of Ballard being one guy, at least. The question is if he'd buyout Luongo as well.

In either case, all these teams currently over the cap are generally safe:

- Boston will buyout Savard and Thomas comes off the books, allowing them to retain Horton.

- Minny has Bouchard, Cullen and Backstrom coming off the books, but Clutterbuck is a RFA. They will be strapped with no obvious buyout candidates.

- We have several UFA's coming off the books, including Edler, Raymond, Lappy, Manny, Higgins and Alberts. We're under the cap, but then short of players. Luongo and Ballard are buyout candidates. Needless to say, our 13-14 lineup will look pretty different. Insert our plethora of prospects? Hehe.

- Calgary won't have much of a problem as Iginla and the mighty Roman Cervenka come off the books. They might buyout some guys anyway.

- Philly is strapped as usual, but they haven't let silly things like the cap bother them before.

- SJ will have enough room to retain their guys.

- Chicago is strapped still, but no overly. Hossa's status is still a question.

Honestly, it looks like our team is the team in the biggest trouble. Yay for compliance buyouts?

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If I had to choose, Lu and Ballard would be the ones to go.

Would suck to get nothing but cap relief for them, though. There could be a lot of very good players walking around unemployed at the beginning of 13-14 who may have to sign for "peanuts" in the NHL just to suit up.

KHL, anyone?

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ballard and Booth. Looking to see if we can still get something for Lu.

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Since we're already discussing this in the CBA thread and you're talking about for any NHL team, why did you put this in Canucks Talk?

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Honestly I think it's better for something like this to be in Canucks talk than cluttering up the CBA talk when people are anxious to see if there is any progress.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Too late for that, we've already had someone detail a number of possibilities for all the teams in the CBA thread. Is there really a lot of debate that would require its own thread beyond Ballard and Booth for who we'd buyout anyway (assuming we could trade Luongo, but he'd be a third option)?

EDIT: Found the post, which was related to the single buyout option, but there's been plenty of discussion since on our options as well as for other teams.

Likely buyout candidates? These are my best guesses that would get the teams under a $60 mil cap with no other additions.

Ana - None/Under

Bos - None/Under

Buf - Leino

Cal - Bouwmeester

Car - None/Under

Chi - Frolik

Col - None/Under

Clb - None/Under

Dal - None/Under

Det - None/Under

Edm - Horcoff/Hemsky/Whitney

Fla - None/Under

LA - None/Under

Min - Heatley

Mtl - Gomez

Nas - None/Under

NJ - None/Under

NYI- None/Under

NYR - None/Under ( But still need to sign Del Zotto)

Ott - None/Under

Phi - Briere??? - If not counting Pronger the Flyers only need to shed approx $ 2mil but do not have full roster

Pho - None/Under

Pit - Martin

SJ - Havlat

Stl - None/Under

TB - Ohlund

Tor - Komisarek

Van - Ballard + ???

Was - Ward & ???

Win - None/Under

What a cursory look at the numbers shows that the Canucks are one of the few teams, along with Wash and Philly, that likely cannot get compliant with a single move but that the $60 mil cap seems highly doable for most teams.

The guys who will suffer the most are the RFAs who have not signed with their team yet. ie. Subban, Del Zotto.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Since we're already discussing this in the CBA thread and you're talking about for any NHL team, why did you put this in Canucks Talk?
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Other teams a mentioned so there is a gauge on how big our problems look compared to other strapped teams. imo Fairly substantial.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

obviously ballard is our first choice, cdc has been throwing names like booth and lu in the mix though. why not discuss garrison? he's Making some serious coin for having one good season. I wouldn't want to let him go but maybe resign him for less?

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The title asks 'Who are yours?'

That meant Canucks. Hence Canucks talk.

There is a Luongo amnesty buyout thread yes, but now that 2 buyouts are possible for '13-'14, it's news. Besides the Lockout/CBA thread is dryer than a fart.

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ballard is my biggest one he has no trade value, and are just eating up cap space. Ballard is a borderline 6th d-man, getting paid 4 mill a year

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

obviously ballard is our first choice, cdc has been throwing names like booth and lu in the mix though. why not discuss garrison? he's Making some serious coin for having one good season. I wouldn't want to let him go but maybe resign him for less?

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Garrison put up a great amount of points with the Panthers. He'd be deadly on the power play with the Sedins. And who would replace him?

Honestly, this isn't NHL 13. We need players like Garrison especially considering there's no d-man close to him left on the market.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The title asks 'Who are yours?'

That meant Canucks. Hence Canucks talk.

There is a Luongo amnesty buyout thread yes, but now that 2 buyouts are possible for '13-'14, it's news. Besides the Lockout/CBA thread is dryer than a fart.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

it was a question not a suggestion. just wanted to see what others thought. don't refer to nhl 13 like I'm a 6 yr old.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ballard is the obvious choice. After that Malhotra or Booth, but I'd wait to see what they can do first.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

He has a point - not to mention you can't buyout a player only to re-sign him for less. They become UFAs and can go wherever they want. Why would Garrison want to sign with us as a UFA, only to be bought out and have us ask him to sign for less than we just signed him for before he's had a chance to play a single game?

2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.