Ossi Vaananen Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Well round 4... I hoped I would never see the day... I suppose we should acknowledge the topic as to whether a shortened season would necessitate keeping Luongo around, if only for the condensed schedule. I'm not opposed to it, though it does make us desperate to move him before the salary cap reduction next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onesmallleap Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 this seems more like a 3.01 beta thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 While we're at it; why don't we trade for three more left wingers, 5 more left D and 4 goalies? We'll get Niemi, a pick we can use to draft a goalie, a prospect and maybe SJ can acquire the rights to Hasek to include him so the deal works... I mean really, our depth is in goal, on left D (Edler, Hamhuis, Garrison, Ballard) and on left wing (Danny, Burrows, Booth, Raymond, Higgins, prospect Jensen). Hansen is our top natural RW followed by prospect Kassian. You can decide whether your happy with our depth at centre. And Tanev is our 2knd best natural right D, which is scary. For all our fast skating, good passing D we lack both a bone cruncher, are desperately short on right handed shots and miss a guy that can lug the puck against pressure not just pass it. So first lets trade Lou for a UFA, then lets not bother to actually address any team needs! I am completely convinced that if Luo gets traded he will go to a left field team that can give us a reliable goaltender To San Jose Luo Higgins 3rd To Van Niemi Clowe 1st Of corse all of you homers will say we are overpaying but in reality both teams need to feel they are getting the upper hand. SJ is more desperate than we are to keep the window open. I don't think Clowe likes SJ he constantly lays that out in interviews. He would help this team and MG would be all over locking him up. You wanna buy out a goalie? I think neimi would be an easier buy and probably relatively easy to move when lack is ready Higgins is awesome but Clowe is more awesome both UFA's We give SJ short term cap relief they give us long term cap relief. We will not get high end prospects for Luo or capspace it will involve a money exchange. So MG can help the team now and a contender can fit Luo in. The buy out is kind of an interesting tool. We could take a big contract from a team that cannot afford a buyout in exchange for prospects. Like a DePetro. I can't imagine what the islanders would give to unload that sucker. Not saying Luongo would be part of that but it would be another way to acquire youth rather than using Luo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noheart Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 While we're at it; why don't we trade for three more left wingers, 5 more left D and 4 goalies? We'll get Niemi, a pick we can use to draft a goalie, a prospect and maybe SJ can acquire the rights to Hasek to include him so the deal works... I mean really, our depth is in goal, on left D (Edler, Hamhuis, Garrison, Ballard) and on left wing (Danny, Burrows, Booth, Raymond, Higgins, prospect Jensen). Hansen is our top natural RW followed by prospect Kassian. You can decide whether your happy with our depth at centre. And Tanev is our 2knd best natural right D, which is scary. For all our fast skating, good passing D we lack both a bone cruncher, are desperately short on right handed shots and miss a guy that can lug the puck against pressure not just pass it. So first lets trade Lou for a UFA, then lets not bother to actually address any team needs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I'm not the GM it's an example of what could happen. We will exchange salary and because we have a long way to go to be cap compliant in a few years a pending UFA may be an option. You can let him walk if he doesn't fit you team or you can have exclusive negotiating to resign him. He is a upgrade to Higgins, clearly. For those that think MG is not going to do a return favor for his trading partner, your living in a dream world. Lack has cute little blogs and stuff which is great but Remember, he will be our starter If Cory is Injured, is he ready? Possibly, but that's pretty debatable. If Cory went down in the playoffs would you be more comfortable with say Neimi? Or Lack? Ya... I'm going to bet a short term vet backup is on the way back in whatever deal we get. If not, one will be acquired after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Castiglione Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I am completely convinced that if Luo gets traded he will go to a left field team that can give us a reliable goaltender To San Jose Luo Higgins 3rd To Van Niemi Clowe 1st Of corse all of you homers will say we are overpaying but in reality both teams need to feel they are getting the upper hand. SJ is more desperate than we are to keep the window open. I don't think Clowe likes SJ he constantly lays that out in interviews. He would help this team and MG would be all over locking him up. You wanna buy out a goalie? I think neimi would be an easier buy and probably relatively easy to move when lack is ready Higgins is awesome but Clowe is more awesome both UFA's We give SJ short term cap relief they give us long term cap relief. We will not get high end prospects for Luo or capspace it will involve a money exchange. So MG can help the team now and a contender can fit Luo in. The buy out is kind of an interesting tool. We could take a big contract from a team that cannot afford a buyout in exchange for prospects. Like a DePetro. I can't imagine what the islanders would give to unload that sucker. Not saying Luongo would be part of that but it would be another way to acquire youth rather than using Luo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I take back anything I've ever said about Lu. I strapped on the pads last night and hit a local outdoor rink and holy crap that's hard. I can barely move today lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I take back anything I've ever said about Lu. I strapped on the pads last night and hit a local outdoor rink and holy crap that's hard. I can barely move today lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 While we're at it; why don't we trade for three more left wingers, 5 more left D and 4 goalies? We'll get Niemi, a pick we can use to draft a goalie, a prospect and maybe SJ can acquire the rights to Hasek to include him so the deal works... I mean really, our depth is in goal, on left D (Edler, Hamhuis, Garrison, Ballard) and on left wing (Danny, Burrows, Booth, Raymond, Higgins, prospect Jensen). Hansen is our top natural RW followed by prospect Kassian. You can decide whether your happy with our depth at centre. And Tanev is our 2knd best natural right D, which is scary. For all our fast skating, good passing D we lack both a bone cruncher, are desperately short on right handed shots and miss a guy that can lug the puck against pressure not just pass it. So first lets trade Lou for a UFA, then lets not bother to actually address any team needs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 By far the hardest position on the ice. I played goal for 10 years growing up and now as an adult I play forward, way easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I'd be ok with Niemi in net in the playoffs if Schneider went down. Remember Niemi just won the Cup not that long ago and has a 7-2 playoff series record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I am completely convinced that if Luo gets traded he will go to a left field team that can give us a reliable goaltender To San Jose Luo Higgins 3rd To Van Niemi Clowe 1st Of corse all of you homers will say we are overpaying but in reality both teams need to feel they are getting the upper hand. SJ is more desperate than we are to keep the window open. I don't think Clowe likes SJ he constantly lays that out in interviews. He would help this team and MG would be all over locking him up. You wanna buy out a goalie? I think neimi would be an easier buy and probably relatively easy to move when lack is ready Higgins is awesome but Clowe is more awesome both UFA's We give SJ short term cap relief they give us long term cap relief. We will not get high end prospects for Luo or capspace it will involve a money exchange. So MG can help the team now and a contender can fit Luo in. The buy out is kind of an interesting tool. We could take a big contract from a team that cannot afford a buyout in exchange for prospects. Like a DePetro. I can't imagine what the islanders would give to unload that sucker. Not saying Luongo would be part of that but it would be another way to acquire youth rather than using Luo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noheart Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I see what you did there Noheart. I'm gonna go to right field and say Long Island and take back one of their tenders as well. Luongo 3rd Okposo Nabokov Brock Nelson The Canucks take back $5.55 million in cap hit. Okposo - the kind of (second line) RW I'd love to see added to the roster. Nabokov is a 37 year old UFA - a good insurance policy for this season but no commitment thereafter if Lack proves himself. Nelson - a good depth addition / potential third line center - good size, speed, defensive game, offensive upside as well - and behind Tavares, Nielson, Bailey and Strome, there's a lot of young talent at center in the Isles org. The Isles buyout Dipietro themselves, and get back the goalie they probably never should have moved in the first place (ahem, one of the many Milbury strokes of genius - Luongo and Jokinen for Parrish and Kvasha - ouch!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noheart Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I'll be ok with Schneider in net in the playoffs if Luongo went down. Remember Luongo brought the Canucks to a Stanley Cup Final game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I take back anything I've ever said about Lu. I strapped on the pads last night and hit a local outdoor rink and holy crap that's hard. I can barely move today lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 The Islanders are a team on the rise especially now that they are moving to Brooklyn. Luongo would quickly become a fan favorite as his fellow greasers are quite established in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 derp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Fatigue Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Fortunately, it is your mere opinion! We will find out indeed! See what I did there! ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I see what you did there Noheart. I'm gonna go to right field and say Long Island and take back one of their tenders as well. Luongo 3rd Okposo Nabokov Brock Nelson The Canucks take back $5.55 million in cap hit. Okposo - the kind of (second line) RW I'd love to see added to the roster. Nabokov is a 37 year old UFA - a good insurance policy for this season but no commitment thereafter if Lack proves himself. Nelson - a good depth addition / potential third line center - good size, speed, defensive game, offensive upside as well - and behind Tavares, Nielson, Bailey and Strome, there's a lot of young talent at center in the Isles org. The Isles buyout Dipietro themselves, and get back the goalie they probably never should have moved in the first place (ahem, one of the many Milbury strokes of genius - Luongo and Jokinen for Parrish and Kvasha - ouch!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Rather see Loungo- fills a big hole and yes agree NYI on the upswing and Lou could carry them to a birth and be a star in NYC, he'd likely love the limelight...and it would be great for him to recapture some appreciation Ballard-NYI need a veteran puck moving dman, their d is young and inexperienced Ballard fills a big need Schroeder - Addresses filling a gap I am creating with the trade but also a reliable player who's likely to get a better chance in NY for Nabakov - makes absolute sense for both sides as you suggested Matt Martin - love this kid and is the 4th liner we need - hitter/fighter/speed/size Ryan Strome - Fills our need for a potential real 1/2 center and is a Canadian kid with decent size 2nd Result is what I like in the future..our core should/would include Jensen, Strome, Kassian, Martin, Tanev, Connauton, Sauve, Corrado, Gaunce, Lack - that's not a bad core if you can find a couple steals in the next 4-5 years thats a decent group (once our current vets are gone for the most part) LW/Kesler (mid 30's)/Kassian Jensen/Strome/RW LW/Gaunce/Martin 4th Corrado/Edler (mid 30's) Tanev/Connaghton Aging vet- ie Garrison?/Sauve Lack Schnieder (aging/backup) Not too many holes and a solid group and have to just LOVE that size and intensity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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