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[Discussion] Roberto Luongo Trade Thread 4.0

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ABSOLUTELY!!! The fans in T.O haven't seen a playoff game in what 8 years? They still pay the highest ticket prices in the NHL and sell out every game.

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Reminds me of when Vancouver was in the running for Brad Richards in 2008, which "only" would've cost Edler, Kesler, and Schneider. That move probably would've gotten us into the playoffs, but we would not have been a realistic Cup contender. Dave Nonis backed off, which infuriated a lot of people, and it cost him his job. But because of him doing this, he left the Canucks in a prime position for his successor, with a full cupboard.

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I gotta go with BuretoMogilny on this one - simply getting into the playoffs is the main objective for BB & the Leafs right now. I was just in TO over Christmas, it's a huge stigma for fans being the only team not to make the playoffs between the two lockouts. And we wouldn't be raiding their cupboards in this deal. Lu can still mentor Reimer the way he did Schneider.

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If Luongo wants to go to florida, he can now.

How?

Buyout his contract for 2/3 of what we still owe him (47mill)

= 31.33 mil

then resign him to 6 years 3 million = 18 mill

Luongo ends up making 49.333 mil (2.3 mill more now)

trade him to FLA because now they can afford him

Tallon will give us more now!

woohhoooo

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There is one way Burke could have saved his job if he didn't make the playoffs next year. That was by committing to a full rebuild when he joined the Leafs. With the Kessel rade Burke declared he was not interested in a rebuild. He promised playoffs. It hasn't materialized for him so this is a huge reason for the heat he takes.

If Burke had Seguin on the roster and maybe Hamilton then his job might be safe, he could claim a rebuild. Right now it's playoffs or bust.

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Good post! I think Lu was disliked by some media in Van because he challeneged their understanding of the game. He refused to accept all responsibility for letting goals in when his d-core broke down. It was no dif when Cloutier was left out to hand many nights. 'Run & Gun' works well during the season but CUP contending d-cores usually find a way of shutting that type of offence down.

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We hold all of the cards right now. Shortened season, all the pressure on teams who have very little room for error with goaltending.

Tampa, Columbus, Florida, Toronto, Edmonton all hurting big time.

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We hold all of the cards right now. Shortened season, all the pressure on teams who have very little room for error with goaltending.

Tampa, Columbus, Florida, Toronto, Edmonton all hurting big time.

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and if Lou wasn;t a problem and our defense is so bad, why did Schneider post a .1.96 GAA vs Lou at 2.41 and SP of .937 vs Lou at .919? In the playoffs, Schneider was 1.31 vs Lou at 3.50. Same team, same defense, same opponent ! Lou is tuff to play in front of him partly because hes the king of poor rebound control and gives up too many secondary scoring chances. Schneider is far superior in this aspect . Its the technicality of goaltending as 101 would say !

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and if Lou wasn;t a problem and our defense is so bad, why did Schneider post a .1.96 GAA vs Lou at 2.41 and SP of .937 vs Lou at .919? In the playoffs, Schneider was 1.31 vs Lou at 3.50. Same team, same defense, same opponent ! Lou is tuff to play in front of him partly because hes the king of poor rebound control and gives up too many secondary scoring chances. Schneider is far superior in this aspect . Its the technicality of goaltending as 101 would say !

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Stephen Weiss, yuck. That would make no sense. Career Floridian who made the playoffs for the first time this past season, at the age of 29. Pass.

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Yup exactly. Somewhere along the way, Lou began overplaying the puck, not swallowing rebounds. He now kicks too many shots out into bad spots (poor rebound control as you mentioned), and resultantly if often in bad positions to make second saves. Schnieds plays much like Carey Price, efficient in his movements, good rebound control = little need to overcommit/overreact on second shots thus the better numbers.

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Biggs, Kadri, Colbourne, Ashton, 1st. A combination of 2 or 3 of those are what most are expecting.

In 2008, Edler was a shell of what he is today, Kesler too. And nobody thought we had any use for Schneider, because we had "the greatest goaltender in the world" (remember that being crammed down our throats?).

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So we couldn't give Cody a shot at the 2nd line C, but Stephen Weiss will be able to just waltz right in there and bump Kesler to the wing?

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There is one way Burke could have saved his job if he didn't make the playoffs next year. That was by committing to a full rebuild when he joined the Leafs. With the Kessel rade Burke declared he was not interested in a rebuild. He promised playoffs. It hasn't materialized for him so this is a huge reason for the heat he takes.

If Burke had Seguin on the roster and maybe Hamilton then his job might be safe, he could claim a rebuild. Right now it's playoffs or bust.

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Half serious suggestion;

Lou for Sam Gagner and Klefbom? When they cough add in Schroeder and its close but would make them very good... Schroeder would run around with Glee with those wingers!

It would be hard to see Hansen go, but that would be hard to turn down.

Sedin Sedin Burrows

Booth Weiss Kesler

Higgins Matthias Kassian

Weise Malhotra Lapierre

Or for 3 lines of attack:

Sedin Sedin Burrows

Booth Kesler Raymond

Higgins Weiss Kassian

Lapiere Matthias Weise/Malhotra

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