Ossi Vaananen Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I hope you're right because based on the top 300 scorers in the league, all the Nucks have is one scoring line. Our scoring depth is lacking as evidenced by what happens to our scoring when the Sedins struggle or are shut down. Defense and goaltending are not the Nuck's weak points...secondary scoring is. I hope Lu nets us a serious top 6 scoring center or wingman. That's the biggest missing piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Gardiner or Rielly has to be in the trade. Offensive dman is a big hole in the organization. Everyone else on the Leafs are secondary players which the Canucks have an abundance of (except Kessel and JVR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 We keep talking about Toronto, but Florida is still a more likely destination. I'm starting to think Matthias and Gudbranson would get the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I've been trying to figure out who I'd want more, and I'm curious as to why you think Couturier fits better than B.Schenn? I know they're both great prospects but haven't seen them play much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Top 300 scorers in the league, and Canucks have only 1 scoring line? Where are you getting this? We were pretty deep last season in terms of scoring. 300 scorers is like 10 per team, I highly doubt that the Canucks 2nd line was worse than most teams 3rd lines. Backes was the blues leading scorer last year with 54 points, Edler alone almost had that much for the Canucks. When you have Higgins and Hansen playing 3rd line roles for much of the season but putting up 40 pts each, I think we're doing OK. The gap that needs to be filled is Kesler's 2nd line centre, while he's out to start the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I tend to agree. Toronto will use the excuse of "we only want guys who want to be here. Roberto wanted to be in Florida". EDIT: but I don't think Gudbranson is a guy that we'd be able to get back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I tend to agree. Toronto will use the excuse of "we only want guys who want to be here. Roberto wanted to be in Florida". EDIT: but I don't think Gudbranson is a guy that we'd be able to get back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 How about a different look? Because we kinda could use a puck rushing D in spite of all the depth and skill we have! Kadri, Bozak (plus a conditional pick please, or preferably Biggs cause we need more value?) for Lou as advertised. Add Gardiner for Edler! We'll take on a cap dump (MacArthur?) to make the cap work. And we still have massive LW depth to trade for size at right wing and right D or whatever at the deadline! This helps them bg time cap wise. With MacArthur gone,and Connely expiring, possibly buying out Komisarek they can expect to have money to re-sign Lupul, Edler and Kessel. They get a Phaneuf / Edler top PP pair and a major media splash for their media owner Bell. Voila; Toronto makes the play off's, and we get young puck moving defence (on an ELC) to add to a depth centre, plus passing and scoring right wing. And we get exactly asset's we need for Edler and Lou who we cannot afford. Bingo; we also probably win a cup and extend our window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TmanVan Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 How about a different look? Because we kinda could use a puck rushing D in spite of all the depth and skill we have! Kadri, Bozak (plus a conditional pick please, or preferably Biggs cause we need more value?) for Lou as advertised. Add Gardiner for Edler! We'll take on a cap dump (MacArthur?) to make the cap work. And we still have massive LW depth to trade for size at right wing and right D or whatever at the deadline! This helps them bg time cap wise. With MacArthur gone,and Connely expiring, possibly buying out Komisarek they can expect to have money to re-sign Lupul, Edler and Kessel. They get a Phaneuf / Edler top PP pair and a major media splash for their media owner Bell. Voila; Toronto makes the play off's, and we get young puck moving defence (on an ELC) to add to a depth centre, plus passing and scoring right wing. And we get exactly asset's we need for Edler and Lou who we cannot afford. Bingo; we also probably win a cup and extend our window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Kadri can't play defense, he's just like Hodgson. AV won't trust him, he's still recovering from having to put Hodgson on the ice. Once Kesler gets back Bozak would be useless. Lapierre is a better option for the 3rd line, he showed it in the playoffs. He centered our 3rd line to game 7 of the finals. So I don't want an If and a throw-away for Luongo. Better deals can be had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Well Schenn is obviously the more dynamic of the two, and he's pretty feisty. But Couturier is 6'4" and is a better two way player. If Kesler struggles in the playoffs, Couturier would be much better suited to try and shut down guys like Thornton or Kopitar. And I honestly think Couturier could beome a better player then Schenn down the road. Plus having a big skilled centerman ready to go for when the Sedins are done here would awesome for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 How about a different look? Because we kinda could use a puck rushing D in spite of all the depth and skill we have! Kadri, Bozak (plus a conditional pick please, or preferably Biggs cause we need more value?) for Lou as advertised. Add Gardiner for Edler! We'll take on a cap dump (MacArthur?) to make the cap work. And we still have massive LW depth to trade for size at right wing and right D or whatever at the deadline! This helps them bg time cap wise. With MacArthur gone,and Connely expiring, possibly buying out Komisarek they can expect to have money to re-sign Lupul, Edler and Kessel. They get a Phaneuf / Edler top PP pair and a major media splash for their media owner Bell. Voila; Toronto makes the play off's, and we get young puck moving defence (on an ELC) to add to a depth centre, plus passing and scoring right wing. And we get exactly asset's we need for Edler and Lou who we cannot afford. Bingo; we also probably win a cup and extend our window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I'm betting this will all be history in 10 days to 2 weeks and the speculation will be over. Lou will be gone, we will have a veteran backup and a prized player who can score ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Philly Luongo Kulemin Franson Van Couturier Bozak Tor Bryzgalov Raymond Connaughton Van 2nd Philly 2nd Philly gets an elite goalie, and more depth to their Offense and Defense with solid additions that will play their physical style. They lose Couturier, an unwanted Bryz and a 2nd to acquire Van gets immense center depth for years to come ensuring with Jensen, Kassian, Couturier, Bozak, Gaunce, and Hansen make a physical top 9 to ensure our competitiveness. Toronto lose Franson, Bozak, and Kulemin 2 of which were RFA and in exchange load up on picks and prospects, they get their goalie, have a replacement for Kulemin immediately and essentially can have Reilly replacing Franson this year. Sedin Sedin Burrows Booth Kesler Higgins Couturier Bozak Kassian Malhotra Lapierre Hansen Weise Ebbet Jensen/Gaunce Hamhuis Bieksa Edler Garrison Ballard Tanev Alberts Barker Schneider This is the kind of depth you need to win a cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I fully believe that the Flyers inquired about Luongo and did so recently. Personally I think this is the Flyers trying to run up the price that Toronto will pay to bring Luongo to their division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Luongo seems very zen like lately. I like the new Luongo. I'm thinking that if the Flyers did in fact inquire about Luongo, they may have said: if he's available after the season we would be interested. Cause really it doesn't make that much sense for the Flers to acquire Luongo when they still have Bryzgalov. But come summertime, when they can use one of their buyouts on Bryzgalov, then it makes more sense. I'm starting to think Luongo stays a Canucks for this shortened season though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millerdraft Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I can't see Philly trading one of the Schenn brothers, as that would surely sour the relationship with the other, so they are a package pair. Keep in mind that any trade sending Couturier or the Schenns this way would 100% have to be sending Gaunce the other way to help even out the loss of youth on Philly's end. It fits each respective team's windows as well since Vancouver needs a guy like Couturier right now instead of having to wait for Gaunce while Philly would still have Giroux, B. Schenn & Talbot as a very solid top three and Briere as a fall back option at centre if Schenn displays a need to move back onto the wing for more seasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Castiglione Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I'm starting to think Luongo stays a Canucks for this shortened season though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I've been thinking this as well. I don't think he gets moved this season unless we get an amazing return. ie. Couturier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I can't see Philly trading one of the Schenn brothers, as that would surely sour the relationship with the other, so they are a package pair. Keep in mind that any trade sending Couturier or the Schenns this way would 100% have to be sending Gaunce the other way to help even out the loss of youth on Philly's end. It fits each respective team's windows as well since Vancouver needs a guy like Couturier right now instead of having to wait for Gaunce while Philly would still have Giroux, B. Schenn & Talbot as a very solid top three and Briere as a fall back option at centre if Schenn displays a need to move back onto the wing for more seasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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