King of the ES Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Canucks draft Seth Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Correction. What I haven't seen is King or Smashian formulate a proper assessment of how ludicrous these over-valuations of Leafs like Gardiner and Reilly are. Won't be holding my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Hey there - you're looking at the context and talking sense here. That sh won't fly - it doesn't fit with what folks have be told on twits-a-verse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I still think it will be Florida in the end. Luongo, 3rd. Goc, Petrovic, Ellerby, Drew Shore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Hodgson was voted (multiple times) by the OHL coaches as the smartest player, the hardest worker, the best on faceoffs, and the best penalty killer. He can play defense. Stop fooling yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 i agree with you, people seem to knock his defensive game too much. His foot speed doesnt allow him to stand out defensively like hansen or burrows but he is a very intelligent player and far from being bad defensively. He got robbed of the mvp at the wjhc in my opinion because he played in all situations, including the pk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Luongo Schroeder. Couturier, Simmonds, Leighton. Some Philly twitterers are suggesting that Grossman is a centerpiece, which is ludicrous. He was picked up for a 2nd and a 3rd round pick - he'd be a third pairing guy in Vancouver, a stay at home, penalty killer type, with virtually no offensive upside. I personally consider him a saw-off at best for Ballard (the version we have seen in Vancouver, or a downgrade on a healthy Ballard playing the role he is suited to). Philly is absolutely loaded at RW. Their fifth best RW is Read, who put up 24 goals and 47 points last year - they are so stacked they have to move natural RWs(Giroux) to center. That is where they can most afford to move a player to strengthen their back end. I think a deal with them centers upon Couturier (not the Schenns) and their 4th or 5th RW - Simmonds or Read. I think Schroeder is the type of guy who could fit well with the likes of Giroux, Briere etc, he'd lessen the pain of moving Couturier, and he's not likely to find a spot (behind Couturier) in Vancouver. With Giroux, Schenn, Talbot, Rinaldo, Schroeder and Holmstrom they'd be in fine shape up the middle. And they could always move Bryz to TO for Franson and a 2nd lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangelos Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 If Lu doesn't end up in Fla, he's going to Philly IMO. I've always said if there was an amnesty buy out, Philly would come calling about Lu. Considering they can't talk trades during lockout, Holmgren obviously made the call previous to Sept 15. There was a 'mystery team' calling before that date, I'm guessing it was Philly. Of course, the fact this info is now out there must have hit Homgren like a semi truck. He's got a $40+M crazy Russian goalie on his hands, the last thing he wants is that guy having a bird - in case he can't obtain Luongo and is stuck with him. This Grossman speculation must be wrong, why would GIllis want another lefty d-man who's grossly overpaid for the next 4 yrs and has bad underlying numbers? The most pts he ever had in a season was 12 (4 yrs ago). Nuff said. I'd bet my condo he wants Couturier. I think he was the mystery '6th' targeted player in a Hodsgon trade. No way Holmgren wants to give him up, but if he wants Lu - he might not have a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babych Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Question: is the "Luongo clause" officially in the new CBA? I've heard talk that if Luongo is traded and retires early then both Vancouver and the other team split the cap hit. If this is true there are going to be a lot of surprised/angry people on CDC when they see how little Vancouver gets for Luongo. Edit: by "I've heard talk" I meant from various radio shows (Bob McCown, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbulletz Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Playing on a strong team in the east with a 4:00PM PST start-time would probably do wonders for Lu's future Vezina chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millerdraft Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Holmgren: Hey bud I realized I messed up with the Bryzgalov signing so I'm here to buy him out with your money. Owner: Get the $&@& out of my office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Question: is the "Luongo clause" officially in the new CBA? I've heard talk that if Luongo is traded and retires early then both Vancouver and the other team split the cap hit. If this is true there are going to be a lot of surprised/angry people on CDC when they see how little Vancouver gets for Luongo. Edit: by "I've heard talk" I meant from various radio shows (Bob McCown, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 It's common knowledge that Ed Snider was the one yelling at Holmgren to sign Bryzgalov at any cost and Holmgren actually wanted nothing to do with the sieve but finally acquiesced to his boss' wishes. If anything it's gotta be Ed Snider telling Holmgren that his demand of Bryzgalov was his own fault and he'd fix it by buying him out. What's $23m spread over 14 years, $1.65m per? That's peanuts to a guy like Snider especially if he knows it was his mistake after his entire management team advised him against the move prior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I agree. A Bryz buyout is expensive but it isn't that bad for a team that was runnin an $80mil cap 10 years ago. Add in a playoff round or 2 would cover the costs. Bryz is brutal and the fact he is a headcase and has one of those contracts that gets penalized makes it more and more obvious that a buyout is highly possible. Philly with Couturier and Bryz is significantly weaker than Philly with Lu and no Couturier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiDeN Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Yeah, I don't see why we need a center. Ebbett, Schroeder, Lapierre, Higgins, Malholtra should be able to hold down the job until Kesler comes back. Sedin Sedin Kassian <---It has been rumored that they will try this (Hopefully for more than 2 games) Booth Higgins Raymond <---Without a great faceoff guy this line would have more offensive zone starts Hansen Schroeder Burrows <---Hansen and Burrows are perfect 2 way guys to shelter and teach Schroeder Lapierre Malholtra Weise <---I have high hopes that Malholtra could return to awesomeness after a long break Ebbett, Volpatti Obviously the lines can be shuffled in all sorts of configurations, but I would like to see Hansen and Burrows flanking Schroeder, because they are of the same mold that we are hoping to cast Schroeder from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suolucidir Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Yeah, I don't see why we need a center. Ebbett, Schroeder, Lapierre, Higgins, Malholtra should be able to hold down the job until Kesler comes back. Sedin Sedin Kassian <---It has been rumored that they will try this (Hopefully for more than 2 games) Booth Higgins Raymond <---Without a great faceoff guy this line would have more offensive zone starts Hansen Schroeder Burrows <---Hansen and Burrows are perfect 2 way guys to shelter and teach Schroeder Lapierre Malholtra Weise <---I have high hopes that Malholtra could return to awesomeness after a long break Ebbett, Volpatti Obviously the lines can be shuffled in all sorts of configurations, but I would like to see Hansen and Burrows flanking Schroeder, because they are of the same mold that we are hoping to cast Schroeder from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Wouldn't happen - he plays in the WHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Right, so because Philly has a lot of young players, they thus shouldn't care about trading Sean Couturier? Is Nick Jensen expendable to us, since we have Anton Rodin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raoul Duke Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Luongo missing from practice just minutes ago?? Hmmmmm..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Should just lock the news thread. It was a great idea, but people around here either can't read big glaring road signs or think their opinions are news lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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