theminister Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 A lot bad can happen...not sure what good could come of keeping him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 The Edmonton rumour intrigues me.. sure it would suck helping a divisional rival, but if we can get their 1st and MPS or Klefbom that would be great. I feel they have 1 more year of suck before challenging us for the NW tittle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Even though Edmontons draft picks would be great I can't imagine trading Luongo there.Comes with too huge of risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Well they would have to give up one of there top guns Eberly,Hall or Nugen!I do not see them doing that at all or they would have for nail at draft time.I think they will stay with who they have and wait till trade deadline to upgrade if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 A bunch of random teams without logical reasons behind why they might want Luongo is not exactly convincing. It's not cheaper. They're buying out the contract and then filling his spot with some other guy (contract). It'd only work in cases like Gomez's, where the salary is so massive that savings actually can be realized. Which goalie is going to get bought out to acquire Luongo? Bryzgalov? Highly unlikely. Niemi? Old team with a bleak future, not a realistic buyer. Hiller? Ducks future also bleak, with Getzlaf & Perry possibly/likely on their way out. Why would they want Luongo? Who's going to get bought out? No guarantee that he'd walk. If he fit in well, it would not be an issue to fit him under the cap. Higgins & Lapierre were also supposed to walk at the end of the year they were acquired. They fit in, so they were extended. What about the minimum of 10 games where we'll have either Jordan Schroeder or Max Lapierre as our second line center while Kesler's gone? Can we really afford to have zero secondary scoring on this team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Then the Canuck should keep him. It is too tough of schedule to give him away. According to HI (I know), its Gunner, Bozak, Kadri and a 2nd with Nucks giving up Lu, Ray, 3rd. 2 of the TO players are up for contract raises, 1 is a mid-prospect that most Leaf fans would give up and a 2nd pick that has a very high chance of amounting to nothing. If only TO is involved Gardiner or Rielly have to becoming back or it does not make the Canucks better, unless, there is a 3rd team that is involved that want the Leafs secondary players. Leafs are lookin for another Phaneuf deal. Give enough secondary players for a top player. The Canucks have enough of those. Gillis is/needs to move Lu and whatever secondary pieces for blue chip. If that trade is not there then the Canucks need to keep him. Best tandem in the league. When every teams goalies are exhausted going into the playoffs, the Canucks will have 2 fresh elite goaltenders. That is worth more than an abundance if secondary players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Oh yeah we should definitely try to get the 2nd as well, I'm sure MG will get the best deal possible. OK I know both of us think we aren't getting Gardiner or Couturier or B Schenn etc but.... I've been thinking since last night that because Gardiner is injured and he can't be traded until cleared, perhaps there is reason for hope that MG could pry Gardiner out of TOR. Maybe this is the reason Lu hasn't been traded yet. Once Gardiner is cleared then the trade could be consummated. Canucks also need a backup goalie if Lu traded, so Reimer may also be coming this way Jake Gardiner + Kadri + Reimer for Lu + Raymond + Schroeder or Sauve What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin6Schultz Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 3 way deal involving Toronto, Philly and of course Vancouver To Toronto : Bryzgalov + Van 1st + Phi 1st (5.66 cap hit) To Philly : Luongo + Edler (8.55 cap hit) To Van : Couturier + Read + Gardiner (3.385 cap hit) toronto gets a bonafide starter to hold the fort until the riemer/scrivens combo develop properly. Plus a couple of picks to speed up a much needed rebuild. philly gets a bonafide starting goalie, and a consoloation prize on losing out on weber in edler. vancouver didnt aquire the best player in the deal but still looks the best on paper. an injection of youth in all positions FWD, D and G (schneids) will allow time for injured vets to heal. vancouver gets temporary cap relief in the form of ELC's, but only for two years (cup window) all vancouver is missing is a reliable backup goalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 3 way deal involving Toronto, Philly and of course Vancouver To Toronto : Bryzgalov + Van 1st + Phi 1st (5.66 cap hit) To Philly : Luongo + Edler (8.55 cap hit) To Van : Couturier + Read + Gardiner (3.385 cap hit) toronto gets a bonafide starter to hold the fort until the riemer/scrivens combo develop properly. Plus a couple of picks to speed up a much needed rebuild. philly gets a bonafide starting goalie, and a consoloation prize on losing out on weber in edler. vancouver didnt aquire the best player in the deal but still looks the best on paper. an injection of youth in all positions FWD, D and G (schneids) will allow time for injured vets to heal. vancouver gets temporary cap relief in the form of ELC's, but only for two years (cup window) all vancouver is missing is a reliable backup goalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 That will not happen we won't give up Luo plus a 1st at all.TML wouldn't get much either.FAIL!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Luongo + Schroeder for Yakupov!!! Sedin-Sedin-Burrows Booth-Kesler-Yakupov Higgins-Lapierre-Kassian Weise-Malholtra-Hansen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin6Schultz Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 No kidding. Toronto only gives up Gardiner and gets Bryzgalov and two first round picks? Nonis isn't that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 If it was Edmonton I'd be ok with a Khabby, Gagner, Paajarvi deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noheart Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 So some wingers and a pick? Might be good return, but does it help us since we could use a center to replace Kesler and/or fill in on the 3rd? It's not necessary we upgrade there, since we may do ok with what we have, but it's an area of uncertainty for us for sure. After that though, a new tidbit on Edmonton: Watters is a former asst. GM to the Leafs for those unsure. Not sure why they would be, as I'd trust Dubnyk with a young and growing team so long as they give him help on D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I can see the Canucks keeping Lu until the trade deadline. Value of two elite goalies is highest during a compact season (multiple back-to-back games). Trade Luongo when Leafs (or FLA) are on the cusp of a playoff birth and Nonis (or Tallon) feels more pressure than ever to get his team over the hump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc44 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 The Edmonton rumour intrigues me.. sure it would suck helping a divisional rival, but if we can get their 1st and MPS or Klefbom that would be great. I feel they have 1 more year of suck before challenging us for the NW tittle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaGuy Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Dont count on it , Most of there young guns have been playing together already this yr and being so young with a condensed season and now with a yr or more of experience there is a very good chance they thrive while veteran teams may struggle to get going and deal with injurys because there not in game shape , I would not be surprised if they take the NW title this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Dont count on it , Most of there young guns have been playing together already this yr and being so young with a condensed season and now with a yr or more of experience there is a very good chance they thrive while veteran teams may struggle to get going and deal with injurys because there not in game shape , I would not be surprised if they take the NW title this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naslundfan921 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 The Edmonton young guns put up a point per game pace or above in the AHL and the team only finished as one of the bottom playoff seeds ( 6th or 7th I believe). Now I think its safe to assume that that level of production will not occur at the NHL level so unless Yakupov puts up unreal numbers or Dubnyk pulls an Elliot type jump in numbers I do not see them coming anywhere near the division title with their team as currently constructed..If we don't take it Minnesota has a better chance than Edmonton. Back on topic though I really don't like what has been suggested in the leafs proposals..if possible I'd much prefer the likes of Gagner or Weiss over Bozak and prospects like Huberdeau over Kadri. I understand that to get these pieces it'd cost a little more than the guys offered in the Toronto deals but I'm hoping Gillis can coax a team into making a deal involving those guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I think you'r right. Constant pressure on a forecheck for almost two minutes. Takes the puck from behind the net to the front and scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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