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#3211 Canuck Surfer

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 05:40 PM

Don't think you can include Jensen and Schroeder in that conversation...

Ninno is a big beastly sized winger, but is he tough? (honest question) Do they send guys up the Swiss Alps to fight, and only one guy returns with two less teeth, or am I misunderstanding something here?

and Schroeder in the middle.....skill speed, toughness


Maybe its not just Gomez; maybe it's inking Clowe long term?

Gettin on the ridiculous side of things; how good a one / two / three punch would Hank/ Joe Thornton / Kesler look? :bigblush:
In a realistic look, as much as we need short tern centre help; Clowe is a final piece, a younger Shane Doan who legetimizes our top line in every way necessary? I want him if its the Sharks, but as a rental we also need some other value + (cough) Niemi...

Interesting.

What does this have to do with Gomez though. They could go ahead and make this trade right away. MG said the other team has to do something with another one of their players. To me it sounds like the other team need to move a player before consummating the trade.


Lou also stated that he has "given Mike the green light to do what he needs to do!"

At least two posts above note Bob MacKenzie mentioning the trading list does not exclude many teams.

Lou wants a deal; he is being pretty fair about giving us a chance to get value back in return with how he has played things, just my opinion! And I'm not one who questioned signing Lou on CDC ever but I've heard the critique. Lou would have been UFA prior to our cup run. If we got a cup run, and bear in mind he was traded for Bertuzzi whom we got for Linden and we also got one of the Twins for McCabe who was acquired in the same deal...

Think of the heritage of excellence we accomplished drafting Linden 25 years ago!

Keep in mind guys, Lui still has the no trade clause, so who knows if Luongo would waive for NYI or Wash or any other rumor floating around.


MG has also stated pretty clearly that he's had NO discussions involving taking salary back, nor does he think they need to. In the same interview as he says a deal is possibly in place, Gillis states clearly that proposals for useless players as a cap dump were not part of anything they would accept!

To me that automatically rules out Dipietro!

"(But) we’ve been offered packages that don’t fit what our plan is, what we need,” said Gillis.
Like, how? “Excess salary coming back with a [throw-in] player who can’t play in our lineup. They say, ‘OK, we’ll do this, but you’ve got to take this.’ Well, we’re not taking it. We’ve had lots of proposals like that with good pieces that can help us but the other part doesn’t help us, and oftentimes they have term attached to them, so we’d just be turning around and buying out a guy.
“I’d rather keep the guy we know, who’s a good person.”



Lou
Ballard

for

Dipietro
Visnovsky
Bailey
Nino

Not saying I'd advocate it due to the Dipietro buyout but it makes me wonder if this is the type of deal MG has been talking about.



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Posted 22 January 2013 - 05:46 PM

...Listen up !!!! Lou said he should have had it....get it??????


Listen back!!!

What do you expect him to say? Ah ya, I could never have stopped that puck oh well...he's just better than me...No one is saying he played it perfectly...

But if you're not smart enough to look at that shot and realize very few players in the NHL can pull that off in that tight a spot...oh well..

Perhaps you need to not only learn to "listen" as you put it...but also 'see'

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 05:58 PM

It's so obvious Gillis is talking about Dallas. That other player he was refering to in Jamie Benn.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:05 PM

It's so obvious Gillis is talking about Dallas. That other player he was refering to in Jamie Benn.


I highly doublt that, Dallas is not giving up their franchise player who's younger for Lou. I'd love it too but doubt it. Unless there are more player involved, maybe Booth, Ballard and something else coming back...But Booth is hurt so we can't trade him.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:05 PM

It's so obvious Gillis is talking about Dallas. That other player he was refering to in Jamie Benn.


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:10 PM

We are not getting benn, talk about pipe dream
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:17 PM

Florida and Philadelphia are losing 2-0.
I can't see Philadelphia starting the season 0-3 and not panicking a bit.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:26 PM

To the people here saying they would pick Pavelski over Clowe... youre nuts.

I dont care if he's a UFA or not, you dont pass over a tough character player like Clowe. He is someone we need in the top 6.

Pavelski is nice, but he's a 3rd line center at best on a cup contender and he's making 4m...

MG will trade for the best player he's offered, he can easily make a deadline deal for a temporary 3rd line center if Shroeder doesnt pan out.

He has shown the ability to sign players at a reasonable price, Clowe is 30 yrs old now, he wants to play for a cup contender and im sure MG can make room for a player like him.

Malhotra and Raymond gone next year = enough money to sign Clowe at around 5m ish, buy out ballard and we've got enough room.

It's crazy talk that people here actually believe Pavelski is better than Clowe.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:26 PM

Be curious to watch how Schroeder is used tomorrow...keep an eye on where he's being played, faceoffs etc. If they are utilizing him in highly offensive situations primarily...perhaps they are pulling a CoHo and he'll be part of a Lou deal?

Just something to think about... (not taking anything away from Schroeds nor suggesting Ebbett doesn't deserve to be sitting), simply that if we get a young center or young player/prospect coming back, other side may be asking for a young offensive player as part of any deal..

Edited by BuretoMogilny, 22 January 2013 - 06:27 PM.


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:27 PM

Florida and Philadelphia are losing 2-0.
I can't see Philadelphia starting the season 0-3 and not panicking a bit.


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:32 PM

2 goals on 3 shots for Bryzgalov. :sick:

Woof.


Even better.
Now the Capitals are down 3-1 to the Jets.
Let all the rumours start to fly.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:34 PM

Even better.
Now the Capitals are down 3-1 to the Jets.
Let all the rumours start to fly.


Somwhere in Vancouver MG is making this face :bigblush:

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:41 PM

Pavelski is not a 3rd line center.......have people watched him play? He's in the mold of Kesler.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:42 PM

Jets are beating the Caps 4-1. The Devils are up 3-0 on the Flyers.
Could something happen tonight?

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:44 PM

To the people here saying they would pick Pavelski over Clowe... youre nuts.

I dont care if he's a UFA or not, you dont pass over a tough character player like Clowe. He is someone we need in the top 6.

Pavelski is nice, but he's a 3rd line center at best on a cup contender and he's making 4m...

MG will trade for the best player he's offered, he can easily make a deadline deal for a temporary 3rd line center if Shroeder doesnt pan out.

He has shown the ability to sign players at a reasonable price, Clowe is 30 yrs old now, he wants to play for a cup contender and im sure MG can make room for a player like him.

Malhotra and Raymond gone next year = enough money to sign Clowe at around 5m ish, buy out ballard and we've got enough room.

It's crazy talk that people here actually believe Pavelski is better than Clowe.

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Booth - Kesler - Clowe
Higgins - Schroeder - Hansen
Weise - Lappiere - Kassian

Higgins would not be on the 2nd line over Little Joe...

Sedin - Sedin - Kassian
Booth - Kesler - Pavelski
Higgins - Burrows - Hansen
Lapierre - Malhotra - Weise

In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:44 PM

Caps down 4-1 after 2,,Bryz allowing 3 goals on 5 shots,,,flyers outshooting devils 10-5 and down 3-0

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:45 PM

Laughton is apparently playing very well, perhaps with Giroux, Schenn, Coutourier, Laughton, one of them is expendable (of the last three) and likely Coutourier

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:47 PM

LOL, Philly out shooting Devils 13-5 and down 3 goals.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:48 PM

Pavelski is not a 3rd line center.......have people watched him play? He's in the mold of Kesler.


except 3-4 inches shorter and 15-20 lbs lighter.........that's more of a CH mold

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:49 PM

Luongo and Raymond for Luke and Brayden!

Wishful thinking

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:51 PM

Luongo and Raymond for Luke and Brayden!

Wishful thinking


the starting point would be lu edler
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:53 PM

I was beating the drum of Lou to Was for Laich or Johansson back in Thread 2.0, I think.

Was laughed at. Washington doesn't need a goalie, they said. Won't be interested, they said.

We'll see.


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:53 PM

if Flyers do get Luongo, they can probably make it to the cup final and if we return there again....it be strange and weird .......Luongo vs Schnieder.

Flyers can afford to give up one of their forward as the core is young and unlikely to keep them all with constant goalie problems

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:54 PM

the starting point would be lu edler


no, no it would not

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:55 PM

To Washington

Luongo



To Vancouver

Matt Hendricks, Michael Neuvirth, 1st (or 2nd, or 3rd, or what ever gets the deal done)

Hendricks is a good young center, and a shootout specialist, which we sorely lack.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:58 PM

To Washington

Luongo



To Vancouver

Matt Hendricks, Michael Neuvirth, 1st (or 2nd, or 3rd, or what ever gets the deal done)

Hendricks is a good young center, and a shootout specialist, which we sorely lack.


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:00 PM

To Washington

Luongo



To Vancouver

Matt Hendricks, Michael Neuvirth, 1st (or 2nd, or 3rd, or what ever gets the deal done)

Hendricks is a good young center, and a shootout specialist, which we sorely lack.


umm i like hendricks as well but hes 31 and is certainly not young and is more of a 4th line player. 9pnts in 78games last year. johannson would be the player the canucks would ask for from washington i would think.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:00 PM

Luongo, Ballard, Booth

Coutourier, Simmonds, Leighton

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:02 PM

Higgins would not be on the 2nd line over Little Joe...

Sedin - Sedin - Kassian
Booth - Kesler - Pavelski
Higgins - Burrows - Hansen
Lapierre - Malhotra - Weise

Burrows is not going to be a 3rd line center. Seriously.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:02 PM

If its Chicago: Luongo, raymond, and a pick for kane
If its NYI: Luongo for Okposo
If its Philly: Luongo and a pick for Hartnell
If its Anaheim: Luongo for Bobby Ryan
If its Florida: Luongo for Bjugastad

I have more ideas but thats all i wanna do now




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