gizmo2337 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 The Nonis list of "UFA" signings, coming from outside the team (not including trades or signing own players): Johnathan Aitken Lee Goren Wade Flaherty Jeff Heerema Joe DiPenta Richard Park Anson Carter Prestin Ryan Sven Butenschon Josh Green Brent Johnson Marc Chouinard Jan Bulis Joe Rullier Gordie Dwyer Rory Fitzpatrick Byron Ritchie Brad Isbister Aaron Miller Dan McGillis I don't see anything in this list that suggests Nonis or the organisation was "attracting talent players". On the other hand, the Gillis list doesn't seem that bad. There is plugs, but some talent as well: Darcy Hordichuk Alexandre Bolduc Nolan Baumgartner Ryan Johnson Mark Cullen Pavol Demitra Rob Davison Jason Krog Aaron Rome Lawrence Nycholat Mikael Samuelsson Tanner Glass Andrew Raycroft Mike Funk Mathieu Schneider Dan Hamhuis Jeff Tambellini Joel Perrault Manny Malhotra Tyler Weiman Raffi Torres Andrew Ebbett Marco Sturm Mark Mancari Steven Pinizzotto Alexander Sulzer Matt Climie Byron Bitz Jason Garrison Patrick Mullen Guillaume Desbiens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Well if you watched the games, you would understand why they're losing. Our prospects were constantly being jumbled around the lineup, with no clear system in place for the team. The veterans were often used in key situations despite being outplayed by the Canucks prospects. They've got an assistant coach with no previous coaching experience trying to coach the D... So yea, the coach does have a big part to do with it. Everyone who's following the Wolves right now can se that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Teams will get desperate for a very good goaltender, this team we have ( with Schroeder for a handle of games ) is still good enough to beat the majority of teams in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangelos Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I like Weiss but the numbers won't work next year as Weiss wants Kesler/Plekanec dollars (he demanded $6m from Tallon because he wants out not unlike what Garrison did). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millerdraft Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 What the hell are we gonna do with Gardiner? Replace Ballard with him and make him play 3rd pairing minutes? What a waste.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangelos Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Luongo 3 years before he retires?? where did you get that info?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 As for Bozak... Not sure what being "western Canadian" has to do with it. He may have some potential but we have no need of him once Kes is back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeak Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 No way Tallon gives that package up. It's been mentioned by various media outlets that he's balked at the very mention of the name Bjugstad, let alone Weiss (who the Blackhawks would love). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millerdraft Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 But next year doesn't matter. We want to win this year. And right now Weiss provides the most bang for your buck. I would even say that it's good his contract ends at the end of the season, that way we have more options. What's the alternative? We keep Luongo? Okay lets say for a sec we keep Luongo lets assume both Schneids and Luo split the season. Ignoring the fact that we have over 9M in goalies which is ridiculous to begin with, there will be a total of 24 games where Luongo is glued to the bench. 24 games where we wouldn't get any production out of Luongo when we could have gotten a top-6 forward to play all 48 games. That is such a waste of an asset if you ask me. Weiss is the best player out of the teams that are interested in Luongo that we can get and that works the best cap wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Totally wrong. Luongo has demonstrated that he will not cause an uproar. It's obvious to those of us that follow the team and can feel the pulse. This won't be a distraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avicii Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 This team is being built to have three 20-minute pairings. We don't have any true #1 Dmen and we have about four #2/#3 Dmen instead. For instance: Hamhuis-Bieksa (#1 Dzone start option, #3 Ozone) Edler-Gardiner (#1 Ozone start option #3 Dzone) Garrison-Tanev (#2 Dzone start option, #2 Ozone) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Didn't say he would get Weiss and Bjugstad- just saying that is what an ideal package would be. Saying that he is the best player on the Leafs roster - is not much of an accomplishment. Paying $5M a year for a third line centre... will cost you Edler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Luongo going to Leafs. Book it. And MG will get great return. Toronto ownership wants Luongo bad, they are cable companies after all. BB pbbly wasn't giving in so BB gets fired. Great news for Vancouver because this means MG will get lots in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millerdraft Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Edler - Gardiner? Oh God that would be almost as bad as Murphy - Anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeak Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Cost me Edler? I don't want him. I want Gardiner and Kadri. I'm just as much as I like him as a player I still don't think its wise adding that kind of salary to the Canucks. We need some young stud players/prospects. Gardiner is that and Kadri is close to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Luongo is a marketing machine. Just look at how much attention he's getting from all of those Toronto media vultures. The MLSE are business people with shareholders to please, not hockey people. Luongo in Toronto helps increase their revenue, which to them is a smart decision. I think a deal is being forced through by the owners right now. Which hopefulyl means Gillis gets exactly what he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avicii Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Oh, you're one of those CDC posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangelos Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I like Weiss. He'd give us great versatility and he knows how to mesh with Booth better than any forward on this team. We could ice 3 scoring lines with Weiss. Grabovski is a gamble chemistry-wise both on and off the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo2337 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 We are not getting Weiss. And even if we was traded here, he would be a 0.5yr rental. Doesn't make much sense to me. Stephen Weiss has made it clear — he’s committed to staying in Sunrise. “I want to end my career with the Panthers,” Weiss told the Miami Herald. “This organization has been very good to me. We’re starting to see brighter days ahead with the kids we have coming up and some of the draft picks we’ve stockpiled.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeak Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Luongo is a marketing machine. Just look at how much attention he's getting from all of those Toronto media vultures. The MLSE are business people with shareholders to please, not hockey people. Luongo in Toronto helps increase their revenue, which to them is a smart decision. I think a deal is being forced through by the owners right now. Which hopefulyl means Gillis gets exactly what he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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