King of the ES Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 The bolded part is where your little story falls to pieces. You clearly haven't glimmered a clue about the reality of scarcity at the position of NHL starting goaltending despite hundreds and hundreds of pages of Luongo threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I (and you) are not talking about regular season. Talking about the playoffs series where the Canucks were decimated setting a record for fewest goals scored and the Flyers were setting scoring records for a series. So No not even close. Next... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Is that right King. What do you see when you look at Weiss' cap hit for next season (the one where the cap drops to 64 million)? Do you see the 60 point center signing for 3.1? You'll need your healthy imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_Element Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Can't wait for this Contract to get signed so we can all stop holding our breath and finally see what all the GM's have been working on. Anyone think this is gonna be as fun as Trade Deadline day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_Element Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 More bickering on here than my Wife and I.. Haha.. Seems CDC should hire our own mediator! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TmanVan Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Very wealthy people are often the cheapest people on the planet - part of why they're very wealthy to begin with. Think about it - what compelling reason would Ed Snider have to buy out Bryzgalov? When you compound the direct financial loss of the buyout with the fact that other assets would need to be parted with to land Luongo in the form of players, it's a terrible deal for Philadelphia. Is there a guarantee that Luongo would have any more success? Of course not. Look at their numbers - nearly identical, and Luongo's both older and more expensive (total contract value). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 "Hundreds and hundreds of pages of Luongo threads"...on Canucks.com. Go to the Leafs' site and take a gander at what they're suggesting. I'll give you a hint: it's a lot less than something along the likes of Sean Couturier, Braydon Coburn, and Wayne Simmonds, which was your brilliant and unbiased proposal. Here's a question: Toronto offered Luke Schenn in the summer. There are now proposals all over this site suggesting "Kadri, Gardiner, and a 2nd, or bust", which is clearly a better haul than Luke Schenn by himself. What exactly has caused Luongo's value to grow so much since the off-season, that would give any sort of credibility to an offer like that? Is it because he's funny on Twitter? Honestly - what is it? The scarcity that you refer to is false. Where is the scarcity? As has been demonstrated in the past, there are 5 - 7 teams in the NHL who might have a realistic interest in a guy like Luongo - teams who aren't already heavily invested in other goalies. That list includes a couple of destinations that Luongo almost surely wouldn't agree to be traded to. That's scarcity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 IF the Canucks don't have a deal done for Luongo over the next couple of days... MG should hold a news conference and announce to the media that.... 1. NO CANUCKS PLAYERS including Lu would talk about a possible trade or the goalie situation 2. If a media member asks a question re Luongo trade the player asked the question will not answer it 3. Only updates provided will be by Mgmt. Luongo should also tell reprorters that he will no longer talk about possible trade scenarios etc... This will stop much of the "controversy" and "DISTRACTIONS". This way the players can concentrated on a short season which affords little time for distractions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Shea Weber offer sheet says you don't know what your talking about. I swear your logic is purposely "off" just to get people going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Shea Weber offer sheet says you don't know what your talking about. I swear your logic is purposely "off" just to get people going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I have to agree with king on bryz. Trying to get arguably the best defenseman in the league is a little different than cutting a guy 30 million because you think you made a colossal mistake 1 year into his 9yr contract... I'm sure they would rather have luongo but at the price of 30 million and the assets to trade for him, no way. Not a chance they buy him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Why exclude only one piece of my proposal when you can exclude two pieces? Which player, Couturier, Simmonds or Coburn has greater value than Luongo? None of them. Luongo is worth more than any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I think Elvis could be on to something. Bryz gets shipped to long Island for Dipietro and a quality young player. Philly cuts their buyout payment significantly, and gets a player to compensate - one of the Isles centers - they have Tavares, Bailey, Neilsen, Strome, Nelson... perhaps a strong, talented two way guy like Nelson to lessen the pain of moving Couturier. Philly then still looks pretty damn good and deep up the middle. Long Island gets an upgrade over Dipietro, a serviceable NHL goaltender who isn't going to require that they add yet another starter on top of Dipietro's salary. Not ideal, but better than what they are rolling with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Wrong again. For the past couple of days I've been saying that Florida is the most likely destination, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 If something like this happens, sure, start the Lu to Philly rumors. Until then, though, there's probably absolutely nothing to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyLow_ Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Sign memo thing faster.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Here's a question: Toronto offered Luke Schenn in the summer. There are now proposals all over this site suggesting "Kadri, Gardiner, and a 2nd, or bust", which is clearly a better haul than Luke Schenn by himself. What exactly has caused Luongo's value to grow so much since the off-season, that would give any sort of credibility to an offer like that? Is it because he's funny on Twitter? Honestly - what is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Gonna take a gamble and say Luongo gets traded on Monday. Idk why but Monday just feels like the day he'll be traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanev Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I'm gonna say Luongo, Schroeder for Biggs, Kadri, Franson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 What's the return from Florida King? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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