Smashian Kassian Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Weiss has outperformed him over the past three seaasons, while being 2 million less of a cap hit, doesn't have a 'party' reputation, and isn't signed for $5.3 million until 2022, when Carter will be 37. Under contract alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 How has Weiss outpreformed him. Carter had 34 points in 55 games this year, 66P in 80 last year, 61 in 74 the year before. Weiss had 57 in 80 last year, 49 in 76 the year before, then 60 in 80 the season prior. Looks to me like Carter has been the better player, and he's not a pending UFA, what point are you trying to make anyways? I said it would be more of a toss up, which means it's not a sure thing but if I had the choice I would likely chose Carter, then you bring up what he was traded for? Not sure what point you are trying to make at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Lets get off the Florida Toronto Philly talk for a bit. Gillis apparently says there's more interest than people realize and the new cba has gained more interest. Anyone got ideas who it may be? I'm guessing maybe New Jersey Also says he's not feeling pressured at all to trade him right away but he does have options. I believe him, if he's really feeling the pinch he'd be gone today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 The point is the claim that Weiss isn't worth one of the pieces that Carter was traded for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Weiss has outperformed him over the past three seaasons, while being 2 million less of a cap hit, doesn't have a 'party' reputation, and isn't signed for $5.3 million until 2022, when Carter will be 37. Under contract alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Lets get off the Florida Toronto Philly talk for a bit. Gillis apparently says there's more interest than people realize and the new cba has gained more interest. Anyone got ideas who it may be? I'm guessing maybe New Jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I doubt it, they just sign Broduer to a 2 year deal and it was a pretty big contract. I think Toronto and Florida are the only teams in the running right now, and Philly might be seriously in the running in the offseason, that's pretty much it, the market isn't all that big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Lets get off the Florida Toronto Philly talk for a bit. Gillis apparently says there's more interest than people realize and the new cba has gained more interest. Anyone got ideas who it may be? I'm guessing maybe New Jersey Also says he's not feeling pressured at all to trade him right away but he does have options. I believe him, if he's really feeling the pinch he'd be gone today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I'm throwing in the Jets. Noel doesn't believe in Pavelec. Caps are also interesting. A lot of veteran players with rookie goaltending. Don't trust Neuvirth and Holtby is a big question mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Howcome these are never things that you mention when discussing the value of Luongo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerines Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 If I were Gillis I would try 4 this: To philly Edler To van Couturier Then To florida Luongo To Van Kulikov Daniel Henrick Burrows Booth Kesler Higgins Hansen Couturier Kassian Weise lappeirre schroeder Hammer juice Kulikov Garrison Ballard Tanev Schneider Back up goalie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I never said he wasn't, is Roberto Luongo not a good enough piece? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Very surprised at the "trade Edler koolaid" going around. People underestimate the value of a dman of his calibre/age. Mgmt should be looking to free cap space to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 New Jersey is interesting to me. Imagine if they made a trade for Luongo now, and kept Brodeur until the end of next year as well? In a 48 game season with Kovalchuk up front and Luongo and Brodeur keeping the GAA low.. they could repeat what they did last year or better.. Zajac + a young player interests me a lot, because Zajac can play LW or C and possess that 'playmaking' ability that so many people agree the Canucks lack on the 2nd line. Plus he can play C if there's an injury to Hank or Kesler or if the 3rd line needs a boost. Zajac had a 58 percent faceoff win percentage last year, and 55 the year before. He's pretty big and has put up 40+ assists twice. The Devils could also use a top-9 winger back .... and as everybody knows Raymond is pretty darn expendable. To Vancouver: Travis Zajac, Jon Merril To NJD: Roberto Luongo, Mason Raymond, 2nd round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangelos Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 New Jersey is interesting to me. Imagine if they made a trade for Luongo now, and kept Brodeur until the end of next year as well? In a 48 game season with Kovalchuk up front and Luongo and Brodeur keeping the GAA low.. they could repeat what they did last year or better.. Zajac + a young player interests me a lot, because Zajac can play LW or C and possess that 'playmaking' ability that so many people agree the Canucks lack on the 2nd line. Plus he can play C if there's an injury to Hank or Kesler or if the 3rd line needs a boost. Zajac had a 58 percent faceoff win percentage last year, and 55 the year before. He's pretty big and has put up 40+ assists twice. The Devils could also use a top-9 winger back .... and as everybody knows Raymond is pretty darn expendable. To Vancouver: Travis Zajac, Jon Merril To NJD: Roberto Luongo, Mason Raymond, 2nd round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 If I were Gillis I would try 4 this: To philly Edler To van Couturier Then To florida Luongo Tanev To Van Kulikov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noheart Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I am guessing from Gillis' interview this saga will continue through this short season and maybe into the summer I don't buy his comments on all the interest and deals on the table. He is trying to manipulate the media to stir up interest around the league. Im guessing if interest exists its lowball offers. He should however, be cautious because he could end up bent over like Howsen. On the bright side Oldnews and King can continue to express the overwhelming passion they have towards each other. Bring on 6.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Very surprised at the "trade Edler koolaid" going around. People underestimate the value of a dman of his calibre/age. Mgmt should be looking to free cap space to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I am guessing from Gillis' interview this saga will continue through this short season and maybe into the summer I don't buy his comments on all the interest and deals on the table. He is trying to manipulate the media to stir up interest around the league. Im guessing if interest exists its lowball offers. He should however, be cautious because he could end up bent over like Howsen. On the bright side Oldnews and King can continue to express the overwhelming passion they have towards each other. Bring on 6.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangelos Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Meh.. I honestly have no idea what kind of person kulikov is and I'm basing this just in the fact he's Russian but is he the kind of young greedy Russian, or does he put getting the cup first? I'd rather throw in something else and try for gudbranson. He's a total package(no homo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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