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#1 shawn antoski

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:47 AM

Vancouver
Connolly
Franson
Biggs


Toronto
Luongo
Rodin


Raymond & Ballard to any teams for anything


FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m)------Henrik Sedin ($6.100m)----------Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m)
David Booth ($4.250m)------Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / --------Tim Connolly ($4.750m)
Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)---Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) /----- Chris Higgins ($1.900m)
Tyler Biggs ($1.138m) ------Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) / -----Zack Kassian ($0.870m)

Dale Weise ($0.615m) / Andrew Ebbett ($0.600m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Jason Garrison ($4.600m) / Alexander Edler ($3.250m)
Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) / Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m)
Cody Franson ($2.000m) / Chris Tanev ($0.900m)

Andrew Alberts ($1.225m) /

GOALTENDERS
Cory Schneider ($4.000m)
Eddie Lack ($0.750m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,997,500; BONUSES: $212,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $215,000
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 12:01 PM

No thank you to Connolly.

... and where did you get the $64 M cap
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 12:07 PM

Your cap number is definitely wrong... you should check that.

As for the deal.... It isn't bad value wise but we need to clear cap space by trading Luongo and getting connoly back doesn't acheive that
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 12:58 PM

Your cap number is definitely wrong... you should check that.

As for the deal.... It isn't bad value wise but we need to clear cap space by trading Luongo and getting connoly back doesn't acheive that


So you expect another high cap hit team like Toronto to take 5.33 without losing any cap?

That doesn't make any sense.
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:46 PM

So you expect another high cap hit team like Toronto to take 5.33 without losing any cap?

That doesn't make any sense.

No, but when Toronto gets back $8.25M in cap space just by virtue of having Connelly and Lombardi go to free agency this summer, and we have players we have to sign as well as they do without getting as significant a UFA bonus in cap space I expect we win in the amount of cap going either way. The closest comparison we have for that is Malhotra and Raymond coming off the books for $4.775M, and we may want to re-sign one or both of them.
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:11 PM

I'd prefer Kadri over Connolly, and I think Toronto would be willing to part with Kadri as well.

Other than that, I'd be happy with this trade.
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:15 PM

I'd do it.
Connolly, the oft injured, would be a good playmaking fit with Kes on the PP.
Biggs will be a good 4th liner at the very least, but that being said I can't see Burke giving him up, he loves guys that play like Biggs.
Franson would be a good addition to our D and give us the depth we need to shop around Ballard if needed.
I'm not too sure TO would go for it though.
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:52 PM

I wouldn't do it.

Franson sucks (Tanev is better), Connolly is overpaid and underpreforming, Biggs is the one piece I like but even he is just a good prospect (likely a 2nd/3rd liner) nothing spectacular

I also don't like that we give up Rodin.

Another thing that get's me, you basicly swap Raymond and Ballard for Franson and Connolly (In terms of cap: 4.2 and 2.1 for 2 and 4.7) and say that it improves our cap situations, honestly I would rather have Ballard & Raymond than Franson and Connolly myself.
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 04:13 PM

No thank you to Connolly.

... and where did you get the $64 M cap


Gillis will have to take one of Burkes bad contracts if he wants them to take Lu . its either Connolly or komisarek

and I made up the cap hit. i think its a reasonable number to work with considering the cap is coming down
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 04:21 PM

I wouldn't do it.

Franson sucks (Tanev is better), Connolly is overpaid and underpreforming, Biggs is the one piece I like but even he is just a good prospect (likely a 2nd/3rd liner) nothing spectacular

I also don't like that we give up Rodin.

Another thing that get's me, you basicly swap Raymond and Ballard for Franson and Connolly (In terms of cap: 4.2 and 2.1 for 2 and 4.7) and say that it improves our cap situations, honestly I would rather have Ballard & Raymond than Franson and Connolly myself.


:picard:


Connoly> Raymond
only thing better is raymonds cap hit and that still bad)

Franson> Ballard
Franson is 25 years old 6'5 and 215 pounds and a BC boy and has way better playoff stats then ballard.
I'd rather have Franson as my 5th defenceman especially against Boston and La

Bigga and Kassian together :towel:

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 04:22 PM

People need to understand Luongo is a star (with value) regardless of his long term contract.

If Toronto wants to dump bad contracts for an elite goaltender, they can do it somewhere else.
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 04:27 PM

:picard:


Connoly> Raymond
only thing better is raymonds cap hit and that still bad)

Franson> Ballard
Franson is 25 years old 6'5 and 215 pounds and a BC boy and has way better playoff stats then ballard.
I'd rather have Franson as my 5th defenceman especially against Boston and La

Bigga and Kassian together :towel:


:picard: Then you team would probably lose.

Connolly > Raymond in terms of what each player brings on the ice, but when you look at contracts, Raymond > Connolly (For us)

Ballard > Franson. Franson was brutal this year, similar to Ballard was last year and him being a BC boy doesn't add any value to the deal for us, he has upside but is brutal defensively, just go asks Leafs fans how bad he was last year. Plus he struggles on the left side, so it's not a fit for us.

I would rather have Ballard and Raymond here at the same dollars than I would Franson and Connolly.
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 04:33 PM

I read reasonable, so I was optimistic that this might be worth viewing .... and then I read Shawn Antoski ... and I'm like eff that noise.
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 08:15 PM

If Toronto wants to move Connolly or Komisarek, they'll have to give the Rangers a call and inquire about Redden.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 06:56 PM

Reasonable? :picard:


Can't believe I wasted my time opening this thread
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:47 PM

switch connolly with kadri and its a deal
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:21 PM

People need to understand Luongo is a star (with value) regardless of his long term contract.

If Toronto wants to dump bad contracts for an elite goaltender, they can do it somewhere else.


Couldn't agree more,

that's why I'm hoping for a player of high skill in a Luongo deal, and not spare pieces that merely 'fill positions' and 'add depth'

If we get Grabovski+ or Weiss+ then I'll be happy.

Bozak,Komisarek,Kopecky, or Matthias.........not so much
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 04:24 AM

I think a potential deal with the maple leafs will involve MacArthur and Gardiner (read that Burke was not willing to give up Gardiner but management were)

MacArthur makes sense and would likely be a pretty good fit on a line with Kesler with his play making skills.
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