TOMapleLaughs Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I'm more of a 'big picture' person. The Asian comment is pretty minor compared to the social problems in Hawaii, and the US in general. Behind all homelessness, drug addiction and financial debt, there is at least one rich white man, like a conservative, either causing it, profiting from it, or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuckNuckNucks Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I'm more of a 'big picture' person. The Asian comment is pretty minor compared to the social problems in Hawaii, and the US in general. Behind all homelessness, drug addiction and financial debt, there is at least one rich white man, like a conservative, either causing it, profiting from it, or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common sense Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 don't these right wing drones all sound like 1 person with multiple screennames? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 But in all seriousness, I think O'Reilly has a point - he just phrased it wrong. Asians didn't just land on North America with a pot of gold, many, and that includes my grandparents and parents, were forced to work...a lot. Almost all Asian parents are not very liberal as they emphasize on hard work and a self-sufficient attitude (not saying that liberal parents don't emphasize on this, it's just that this is enforced in a much more strict manner). Despite all the spoiled rich Asian kids you see rolling around in their expensive sports cars, a lot of us are living with typical strict Asian parents. Where do you think all those stereotypes came from? Despite all these generalizations that surround Asians, it's true to a considerable extent. Welfare? Social programs? No. You study your ass off to avoid being dependent on those kinds of things. Back in countries like, Japan, Korea, China, the amount of schoolwork high school kids go through make ours look like nothing. It's just the culture the people are raised in - and it has existed for hundreds of years. In my specific case, my parents are kinda weird as they were pretty "liberal" when raising me. But in the end, I don't know O'Reilly just focused in on Asians though...I think this sort of hard-work attitude is instilled in the minds of almost all immigrant families... Off-topic: I still laugh everytime whenever I see that idiotic book title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Hartnell's Mane Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Bill O'Reilly isn't "by nature" a conservative idiot...he just works at it real hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 One term adequately defines Bill .. "Shanty Irish" .. it says it all .. think of a rude Bruins fan, only someone pays him to talk .. voila!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucklehead Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 One term adequately defines Bill .. "Shanty Irish" .. it says it all .. think of a rude Bruins fan, only someone pays him to talk .. voila!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Hi But in all seriousness, I think O'Reilly has a point - he just phrased it wrong. Asians didn't just land on North America with a pot of gold, many, and that includes my grandparents and parents, were forced to work...a lot. Almost all Asian parents are not very liberal as they emphasize on hard work and a self-sufficient attitude (not saying that liberal parents don't emphasize on this, it's just that this is enforced in a much more strict manner). Despite all the spoiled rich Asian kids you see rolling around in their expensive sports cars, a lot of us are living with typical strict Asian parents. Where do you think all those stereotypes came from? Despite all these generalizations that surround Asians, it's true to a considerable extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Capitan Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I'd rather Fox news do a report on why Asian people walk so slow in downtown Vancouver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Like Al Gore or David Suzuki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobLoblaw Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 It seems that a majority of people don't see harm in the "more industrious and hard-working" statement in regards to describing Asians. However, the perpetuating of stereotypes is still the seed that allows prejudice and discrimination to persist. http://colorlines.com/archives/2012/10/ohio_university_students_warn_against_making_a_racist_fool_of_yourself_this_halloween.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 It seems that a majority of people don't see harm in the "more industrious and hard-working" statement in regards to describing Asians. However, the perpetuating of stereotypes is still the seed that allows prejudice and discrimination to persist. http://colorlines.co..._halloween.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I'd rather Fox news do a report on why Asian people walk so slow in downtown Vancouver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobLoblaw Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Would it also be the case that a "smart" enemy is perceived as a greater threat than a "dumb" enemy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoreanHockeyFan Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 You shouldn't buy into his concept that "industrious" hard work is somehow NOT a liberal value. I have seen lazy conservatives and hard-working liberals. They're not oxymorons. In any case, Bill is talking about East Asians who come to North America. For Vancouver, we've got, among many other countries, people from South Korea, Hong Kong, and what used to be South 'Nam. In general, these people aren't going to align themselves with left-wing politics. For your parents... if they had actual liberal values (politically), I'm guessing they were students in Korea during the 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Recommended viewing for every Asian, or non-Asian kid, for that matter, with strict controlling parents... Most notably, Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Recommended viewing for every Asian, or non-Asian kid, for that matter, with strict controlling parents... Most notably, Now, who was a greater success in life? Mr. Jobs or your Mom and your Dad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electro Rock Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Bill may have a point. Asians in North America are pretty low key and not looking for sympathy or attention like other skin tones. They just go about working hard knowing to idle in self pity makes them no money. Asians are a lot like white people except shorter. Take for example the Native Indians or the blacks (Sorry if the term is not PC now. It keeps changing by the week.) in the US. Disagree with this group and you will be labelled a racist. For a black person to go on TV, Radio, Movies, Rap music to call the white man every derogatory term in the book or degrade women children or white society in general in their rap music, it's funny and acceptable. For you to disagree with Obama automatically makes you a racist. To call a black person unqualified, lazy, incorrect or mistaken is now racist. If you are interviewing an Asian, Black or a White person for a job, the only correct way of not being a racist is to hire the black person. The Asian or the White will just move on and keep fighting the fight. This applies also to Native Indians also but to a much higher degree. Waving the race card to garner sympathy has been abused and wrecklessly used. It's tiring. This as a disturbing trend. Because they must walk on eggs, in this present day, white people are the lease racist. Bill O'Reilly might be correct. It's just too painful on the ego and pride for some to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electro Rock Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Bill may have a point. Asians in North America are pretty low key and not looking for sympathy or attention like other skin tones. They just go about working hard knowing to idle in self pity makes them no money. Asians are a lot like white people except shorter. Take for example the Native Indians or the blacks (Sorry if the term is not PC now. It keeps changing by the week.) in the US. Disagree with this group and you will be labelled a racist. For a black person to go on TV, Radio, Movies, Rap music to call the white man every derogatory term in the book or degrade women children or white society in general in their rap music, it's funny and acceptable. For you to disagree with Obama automatically makes you a racist. To call a black person unqualified, lazy, incorrect or mistaken is now racist. If you are interviewing an Asian, Black or a White person for a job, the only correct way of not being a racist is to hire the black person. The Asian or the White will just move on and keep fighting the fight. This applies also to Native Indians also but to a much higher degree. Waving the race card to garner sympathy has been abused and wrecklessly used. It's tiring. This as a disturbing trend. Because they must walk on eggs, in this present day, white people are the lease racist. Bill O'Reilly might be correct. It's just too painful on the ego and pride for some to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 That all depends on how one measures "success" .. there is no one measure so perhaps his Mom and Dad were much more successful .. only they can measure that relatively, not someone pontificating from the "snide-lines" .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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