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#61 DaMacNamedDre

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:01 AM

No money will be spent on tickets or merchandise this year and not again until Gary Bettman is gone for the league.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:07 AM

I cancelled my NHL game center but that's about it....

I'll still be following the Canucks via certain streaming websites...
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:13 AM

I never said I would boycott the NHL and I still won't. That said, I've never been to an NHL game and I have very little NHL merchandise anyways.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:21 AM

Tell me more about how you're boycotting the NHL after a week into the season.

Tell me more about how you're boycotting the NHL when your team is in the playoffs.


Just watch me

Plenty of people on this board talked tough before and are now flip flopping like a fish outta water.. some are even going do far as to thank fehr and bettman for bringing hockey back? Lmfao

Whether it makes a difference or not, I won't be watching any of this season including the playoffs. Its the principle of the matter. The nhl has taken their fans entirely for granted.. it may be okay for them to treat the fans this way according to the leagues of mouth-breathers in this city who are willing to follow the nhl with open arms, but not for me. I have far less interest in a shortened season anyway.


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Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:29 AM

Just watch me

Plenty of people on this board talked tough before and are now flip flopping like a fish outta water.. some are even going do far as to thank fehr and bettman for bringing hockey back? Lmfao

Whether it makes a difference or not, I won't be watching any of this season including the playoffs. Its the principle of the matter. The nhl has taken their fans entirely for granted.. it may be okay for them to treat the fans this way according to the leagues of mouth-breathers in this city who are willing to follow the nhl with open arms, but not for me. I have far less interest in a shortened season anyway.


I'll just have to take your word for it, lol. But yes, I am basing those remarks solely on the bold part. If I have learned anything about people in my short life, it is that when most people talk tough, they're always talk. Very few back their tough talk up, especially if it requires a long term commitment. :lol:

I might do the boycott thing under one condition: if the majority of the NHL's fans also did it. But that isn't the case and I'm not going to be a sucker in a pointless effort. Plus, with this team, 82 games is a drag, especially the later portion of the season. I love hockey and would rather see it played, but at the same time I kind of welcomed this break but not the reasons behind it.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:43 AM

I'll just have to take your word for it, lol. But yes, I am basing those remarks solely on the bold part. If I have learned anything about people in my short life, it is that when most people talk tough, they're always talk. Very few back their tough talk up, especially if it requires a long term commitment. :lol:

I might do the boycott thing under one condition: if the majority of the NHL's fans also did it. But that isn't the case and I'm not going to be a sucker in a pointless effort. Plus, with this team, 82 games is a drag, especially the later portion of the season. I love hockey and would rather see it played, but at the same time I kind of welcomed this break but not the reasons behind it.


I am real pissed at the league and the players.. you can take my word on it and believe it.

See to me the sheeplike fans are the real suckers here. Rather than try to make a statement to the league and at least try to get their attention in any way they can they would rather just cave and open their wallets as if nothing happened.. the entire season was almost lost and now that hockey is back it seems so many people are just putting the last 4 months out of their minds

This to me is sad and pathetic and I'm pretty disappointed by it however, ultimately not surprised.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:43 AM

I'll watch games on TV but I will PVR and not watch any of the ads nor will I be purchasing ANY NHL merchandise/tickets.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:19 AM

Yes it saves you money, but not buying a ticket won't leave that ticket unsold here. Which means you're not making a protest statement at all in that regard other than in your own mind. The Canucks will still have that money whether it's yours or not. What the networks pay the NHL is based on what they can charge for advertising during the game. What the networks can charge advertisers is based on how many viewers watch the game. So what the NHL receives is directly linked to you watching. So your protest is only in your head. You're still supporting the team financially even if the money isn't coming directly out of your pocket.


Stop using straw man logic. Not once did I say that this was a 'protest'. This was a decision that I have made. That is it. My post very clearly stated that I understood my actions would have no effect on owners or the team. I don't care. I'm not trying to impact the owners, I'm simply choosing to not buy a product that I don't want.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:26 AM

i boycott nhl nao
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:40 AM

I won't but I'll pretend like I will.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:54 AM

I don't understand the logic of a boycott.

'I'm mad that there wasn't hockey in October, November, December and half of January. Therefore, when you give me what I am so desperately missing, I will not partake in it and punish myself further.'

If the first indication that you, as a fan, were low down the priority list was the lockout then you need a reality check. This isn't bush league hockey where they have to beg for fans, this is the most competitive league, not just for the players but for the fans. The Canucks have a waiting list of many multiple years just for the privilege to buy season tickets at thousands a pair. If you boycott the games, you will not be missed by the team in this city.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:58 AM

I will watch only free games on TV

I will never buy anything NHL related again

These clowns don't deserve my cash


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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:59 AM

I'll watch games on TV but I will PVR and not watch any of the ads nor will I be purchasing ANY NHL merchandise/tickets.


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Posted 07 January 2013 - 12:15 PM

I don't understand the logic of a boycott.

'I'm mad that there wasn't hockey in October, November, December and half of January. Therefore, when you give me what I am so desperately missing, I will not partake in it and punish myself further.'

If the first indication that you, as a fan, were low down the priority list was the lockout then you need a reality check. This isn't bush league hockey where they have to beg for fans, this is the most competitive league, not just for the players but for the fans. The Canucks have a waiting list of many multiple years just for the privilege to buy season tickets at thousands a pair. If you boycott the games, you will not be missed by the team in this city.


Yep.. based on your post, this much is clear.

If you are happy to stick with the league after all this then that is your decision.. to disregard the fact that many fans feel like what the league and pa have done is a slap in the face is ignorant on your part though.. people should be upset and I hope that they do boycott in some ways, whichever those ways may be.

I want to watch hockey just like you.. who says it has to be NHL?
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 12:27 PM

Yep.. based on your post, this much is clear.

If you are happy to stick with the league after all this then that is your decision.. to disregard the fact that many fans feel like what the league and pa have done is a slap in the face is ignorant on your part though.. people should be upset and I hope that they do boycott in some ways, whichever those ways may be.

I want to watch hockey just like you.. who says it has to be NHL?


You can still watch them. Just don't throw any of your cash at them.

In my family, there was absolutely no NHL merchandise exchanged for Christmas this year for the first time since I can remember

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 12:36 PM

For every person that says they are going to boycott the NHL, I am going to buy an authentic NHL jersey to even things out.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 12:37 PM

Yep.. based on your post, this much is clear.

If you are happy to stick with the league after all this then that is your decision.. to disregard the fact that many fans feel like what the league and pa have done is a slap in the face is ignorant on your part though.. people should be upset and I hope that they do boycott in some ways, whichever those ways may be.

I want to watch hockey just like you.. who says it has to be NHL?


It was definitely a slap in the face. However, it is naive to think that a small group of boycotters will even register on the consciousness of the brass of the Canucks. You will be replaced, not missed.

The boycott was a greedy act by the collective owners and to a very small extent, the collective players. They took for granted that the fans would return in Canada, and they were correct in that assumption.

I'm not saying you have no right to be angry (I am as well), but it is foolish to boycott something because you are upset that you were deprived of it.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 12:55 PM

lol my thought is I can occupy myself on a Tuesday because.its cheap movie night but let's face it I'm not going to miss the first hnic of the season even if cherry is a plug


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Posted 07 January 2013 - 01:00 PM

Just watch it on TV.

Won't buy tickets or merchandise.

That's it.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 02:19 PM

Pretty heavy op-ed piece on Puck Daddy this morning. Can't say I feel as strongly as him, but he does make some good points and it's worth re-posting:


You can forgive NHL for lockout, but never forget what happened here

You know when a player who really loves his team and city gets traded, and he gives an emotional speech about how sometimes you forget hockey is a business, and that sometimes makes it unpleasant?
Let this lockout be a lesson that the same goes for fans.
During that 113-day ordeal, you were repeatedly condescended to, taken advantage of, and lied to, by both sides of the argument. But never forget that the contents of your wallet, like one of the podded-up humans in The Matrix, are nothing but fuel for a machine that cruelly exploits you.
As of this writing, I know of just a handful of NHL teams that actually took the time to come out and apologize to its hundreds of thousands of fans for the nearly four months of torture through which it just put them. Calgary Flames president Ken King issued a statement more or less as soon as the tentative deal was announced.
"We're sorry," King said. "We regret what we've put them through. It's just something that you would never, ever, want to put them through. It's difficult saying that it was unnecessary, but it's something you would never, ever want to do with your core constituents."
The Sharks and Blues both expressed their own regrets, while some teams, like the Capitals, Flyers,Canucks, Penguins, Coyotes, Wild, Kings, Bruins, and Stars issued statements or held pressers or conference calls about how great it is that the league is back — especially for the fans!!! — but not once mentioning how sorry they were about it (though the Oilers came close).
Sorry, but this kind of apology should come standard-issue from all 30 teams, especially those like the Flames and Bruins, who certainly led the charge for a lockout despite having massive fanbases, popularity, and most importantly, war chests.
Never forget this was a lockout. Never forget this was put upon you and the players and the sport by the owners. Never forget the two biggest engines in all this weren't poor, put-upon teams in tough markets, but rather financial giants whose sole motivation was greed and the desire to squeeze just an extra dime or two out of every dollar spent. They certainly accomplished their goal.

The fact that as far as I can tell the majority of the league's 30 teams haven't so much as considered apologizing is beyond irrational. Obviously, not every team wanted this lockout to happen, but those that stood idly by, hands in their pockets, while Gary Bettman, Jeremy Jacobs, Murray Edwards, and the rest of their villainous cohorts did this are as guilty through their inaction as any actual negative actors in this process.
They should be down on their hands and knees, groveling for the fans to return to their arenas to buy seats and concessions and jerseys after all this. Everything should be half-price. Every purchase should come with the warmest "thank you" imaginable. But of course, they don't. Because the league doesn't give a rat's ass about its fans, no matter how much free Center Ice they throw at us.
Oh yeah, fans are excited to have the NHL back in their lives and, if you like hockey, you can't really blame them. I know many fans have already started buying tickets in a blind scramble to turn over more of their money to the oligarchs who just robbed them of their favorite sport for four months, and I know that all across the league, games will be played before packed houses sometime in the next few weeks. It disgusts me, obviously, but that's the way of the world. I'm sure the "Thank You (Again) Fans!" that's painted at both blue lines will more than make up for it. That's bridge-building for the NHL in 2013.
This league, which seems content to have itself reduced to a national sports punchline every seven or eight years (clock's ticking on that opt-out work stoppage!), has never cared about you, and will do so. Not really. Not as long as you're willing to throw wads of cash at it the second it gives you what it should have been giving you all along.
Everyone's giddy now. Many have lost any sense of reality they had throughout the process. I still can't believe I'm seeing legitimate hockey reporters — and not just the dummies in the owners' pockets — saying stuff about how the NHL gave the Players' Association concessions at the 12th hour.
Did it really? Almost everything the players once had still got rolled back, just not as much as the NHL would have liked. They didn't make concessions, they backed off absurd demands only when a federal mediator told them to stop being ridiculous, and even then, it took a pair of back-to-back days of 13 to 16 hours. That's near-indomitable malevolent will, eroded on a timeline not dissimilar what desert sands do to the pyramids.
This joyous celebration of hockey's return will only cause the owners to double down on their resolve next time around. They now know, absolutely and unequivocally, that they can treat you like garbage, not even think about apologizing for it, and you'll still cut them a blank check every single year.
That is, unless you remember how October, November and December felt. How mad it made you. How the vote to lock out the players for the second time since 2004-05 came unanimously. How the owners lied to you at every opportunity about Donald Fehr's intractability. How they used so-called "moderates" to defame him with absurd press releases. How they had the gall to compare him to a suicide bomber because he would not let the union be broken by their demands. How their steadfastness that the CBA needed to provide better protection for all 30 teams came without a meaningful improvement to revenue sharing. How they tried to move the goalposts the second the NHLPA's ability to file a disclaimer of interest expired. And especially how you swore you'd never give them another cent of your hard-earned dollars.
Or enjoy the 2020-21 lockout. It's really up to you.


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Posted 07 January 2013 - 02:35 PM

Everyone knew the people posting almost daily at TSN that they were never, ever getting back together with the NHL were as full of empty platitudes as Taylor Swift is. That, however, does not mean that there is not a way for fans to show our displeasure in a real way without depriving ourselves even more of what we were all jonesing for to begin with. If people choose not to, that's up to them. But it's unfair to be dismissive or disrespectful of those of us who do feel strongly enough to put our money where our mouth is.

I know in my house we have not spent a penny on anything (except the already pre-ordered EA Sports game) NHL or Canucks related. And we spend a lot on Canucks crap every year. In fact, we've already donated hundreds of dollars to the Canadian Red Cross that we would have spent already on Canucks gear. We've told our family and friends we won't accept any gifts with NHL or Canucks logos (even though that's usually people's go-to gift idea) through this entire season. We've never said we wouldn't be watching, but you better believe our resolve to keep the money we would have spent on merchandise in our pockets this season is as strong as ever! If enough fans share our "punish them, not ourselves" philosophy I absolutely think the NHL and PA will feel it and hopefully think twice before going into another extended labour dispute. And if not, at least we tried and that's more than some can say.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 02:44 PM

I think it's reasonable to expect that you could boycott merchandise, but I doubt that those that are heartbroken over this mess could boycott watching the actual games.

I can't afford much merchandise, but I do share in a pair of half season tickets, and I am anxious to attend my first game.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 03:17 PM

There was this girl once that broke up with me and man did I hate her for it then one day she wanted to get back together and I couldn't resist. Her name was NHL.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 03:28 PM

Well let me tell you what this season's ticket holder is doing.

I am selling all my tickets. All of them. At cost. So I will be undercutting the Canucks since I get the tickets for cheaper than they sell them as at single game prices. (50 bucks a ticket in row 3 of the upper bowl will be easy to sell them all).

When the playoffs come if I can line up people to buy my tickets I will give them the chance but if no one does I am declining them this year.

I will still watch the games on TV but that doesn't cost me anything as i would have cable even if hockey didn't exist.

Ergo I will get my protest cake and eat it too.

Undercutting both the players and owners by taking away customers that would pay full price is good enough for me.

And if you think I am pissed you should see the guy I get the tickets with. He is seriously considering not renewing next year.

Sure there's more people in line but it might turn out that it's their own foolish decision to keep patronizing someone that doesn't give a rat's ass in return. There better be some serious bouquets thrown the direction of ticket holders let's just say that.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 03:42 PM

Well let me tell you what this season's ticket holder is doing.

I am selling all my tickets. All of them. At cost. So I will be undercutting the Canucks since I get the tickets for cheaper than they sell them as at single game prices. (50 bucks a ticket in row 3 of the upper bowl will be easy to sell them all).



SOLD please pm me the section/row and your contact information
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 03:43 PM

Well let me tell you what this season's ticket holder is doing.

I am selling all my tickets. All of them. At cost. So I will be undercutting the Canucks since I get the tickets for cheaper than they sell them as at single game prices. (50 bucks a ticket in row 3 of the upper bowl will be easy to sell them all).

When the playoffs come if I can line up people to buy my tickets I will give them the chance but if no one does I am declining them this year.

I will still watch the games on TV but that doesn't cost me anything as i would have cable even if hockey didn't exist.

Ergo I will get my protest cake and eat it too.

Undercutting both the players and owners by taking away customers that would pay full price is good enough for me.

And if you think I am pissed you should see the guy I get the tickets with. He is seriously considering not renewing next year.

Sure there's more people in line but it might turn out that it's their own foolish decision to keep patronizing someone that doesn't give a rat's ass in return. There better be some serious bouquets thrown the direction of ticket holders let's just say that.


not discrediting or try to goad you into an arguement whatsoever......but what would make you feel better as an STH. I too am a season ticket holder (in a different market), and I have been very pleased with my treatment from ownership thus far. Free DVD's, books, and trinkets have been a constant from my ownership group. I have no doubt they will make me some sort of peace offering/token of appreciation for my loyalty.

What type of "token" are you looking for? Again...not arguing, simply asking from one STH to another STH,....what does ownership do to make you feel better about renewing your tickets?


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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:05 PM

not discrediting or try to goad you into an arguement whatsoever......but what would make you feel better as an STH. I too am a season ticket holder (in a different market), and I have been very pleased with my treatment from ownership thus far. Free DVD's, books, and trinkets have been a constant from my ownership group. I have no doubt they will make me some sort of peace offering/token of appreciation for my loyalty.

What type of "token" are you looking for? Again...not arguing, simply asking from one STH to another STH,....what does ownership do to make you feel better about renewing your tickets?

Not to hijack his reply, but as a STH I expect some form of deal on merchandise or tickets.

Free jersey, playoff tickets at a reduced cost, etc.

We have received nothing so far during the lockout.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:06 PM

Why should I punish myself for THEIR behaviour?

The people that say they will boycott watching, even on TV, are either faux hockey fans, or they are over-the-top stupid.

So you will be denying yourself your favorite sport and meanwhile those players and owners will continue to rake in millions and live the good life. Your little monk-like self flagellation will go unnoticed and be irrelevant.

And the very same people that crowed the about the poor support workers and pubs suffering are now the same people that want to make those workers suffer for the rest of the season. Nice.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:11 PM

Every commenter on here will be watching more than ever, especially with the exciting shortened season.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:19 PM

The NHL owes it's fans free NHL CENTRE ICE for the season.
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