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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:40 PM

He will be under the microscope for sure.

Difficult to say whether he'll fit in with this bunch, but at least he's American. ie. Kesler might deem him eventually worthy for Amex Line V2?
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:57 PM

I'm cheering for the guy. It takes more work and more talent for the smaller players to make it in the NHL. I hope he gets a chance and can elevate his game with the more skilled linemates. He's definately the underdog to make the team this year. He could also be the dark horse. Good luck Shroeder!
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:20 PM

The only thing I'm concerned about is his size.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:24 PM

He isn't offensively dynamic enough for his size. He had that upside but it just hasn't translated in the AHL. He is small so if he can't make plays what the hell is he good for? I'd sooner have a big defensively responsible center.
Just being honest

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:20 PM

After listening to MG talk i think Jordan is going to be in camp and that's it. Back down to AHL for him.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:51 PM

I think he should start out on Kesler's wing.

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
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Higgins-Lapierre-Hansen
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:54 PM

I think he should start out on Kesler's wing.

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Booth-Kesler-Schroeder
Higgins-Lapierre-Hansen
Volpatti-Malhotra-Weise
Mallet

Hamhuis-Bieksa
Edler-Garrison
Ballard-Tanev
Alberts

Schneider
Lack


Did you miss the memo or just forget that Kesler isn't going to be playing for a while?
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:57 PM

Gillis has more to prove than Schroeder has.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:59 PM

After listening to MG talk i think Jordan is going to be in camp and that's it. Back down to AHL for him.


I didn't hear that - I heard he has played very well for the last three weeks, and the Canucks are considering unconventional options (ie moving Higgins back to center as in the past). I doubt the Canucks would want to drop Schroeder into the 2nd line, but perhaps the 3rd with Higgy on the 2nd (if no deals are cut in the short term). Gillis isn't going to say Schroeder has a spot - and he's not going to suggest he doesn't - it is his onus to come in and earn the spot, and it's up to AV as much a Gillis whether he stays or not.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:03 PM

Jordon Schroeder has a lot of pressure......hopefully he can finally make the team despite his size........it about time a prospect make the team please!!!!!
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:22 PM

booth-schroeder-kassian. this is my guess at the second line until kesler is back. it also will be good to see what these 3 can do with each other. booth should benifet bigtime off schroeders and kassians playmaking.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:30 PM

booth-schroeder-kassian. this is my guess at the second line until kesler is back. it also will be good to see what these 3 can do with each other. booth should benifet bigtime off schroeders and kassians playmaking.


I just have a feeling they could have chemistry.......if that happen we have a second line that could be a threat in the regular season and playoffs. IF this line put up points no way they should be broken up.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:37 PM

Jordon Schroeder has a lot of pressure......hopefully he can finally make the team despite his size........it about time a prospect make the team please!!!!!


Kassian has just as much pressure if not more.

Hopefully going through it together will help both of them.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:39 PM

No matter how many times you leave Raymond out of a proposed lineup, he's still gonna be there starting day.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:41 PM

to bad schroeder wont get ice time just like hodgson and kassian and soon jensen.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:45 PM

No matter how many times you leave Raymond out of a proposed lineup, he's still gonna be there starting day.


I know. You've gotta create a lineup based on what AV will likely do, not what we think is best.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Raymond on the second line at all.

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Booth Higgins Raymond
Kassian Lapierre Hansen
Weise Schroeder Malhotra

That's my realistic assesment of what we'll see, barring any trades.

Edited by DeNiro, 06 January 2013 - 08:46 PM.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:47 PM

I remember the WJC's before we drafted him, watching every american game, and thinking, man oh man if the canucks found a way to trade into the top 10 to get this guy.

This guy dominated when he had good players around him like it wasn't even funny.

Give him a chance with Booth and Higgins, he can skate like the wind and he's defensivly responsible
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:53 PM

Schroeder's statline does not reflect his overall performance in the AHL this season. I've tuned into several Wolves games and it's always Schroeder who's controlling the play. Whenever he'd get going with some line-mates, be it Kassian, Rodin or even Sweatt, Arniel would shuffle the line for the next game and Schroeder would have to adapt to playing with players like Davies or a slumping Haydar.

I'm fully confident Schroeder can take the reigns and work with players like Booth and Higgins who actually know how to finish. Having Schroeder on the half wall on the 2nd powerplay (unlike the point where dumbass Arniel put him) would be awesome cause Schroeder's vision and playmaking are his best attributes.

The biggest concern with Schroeder won't be his size disadvantage but rather his reluctance to shoot the puck. He has a lethal shot and needs to use it more.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:56 PM

Booth Higgins Raymond
Kassian Lapierre Hansen


Im down for that or a switcheroo of Lapps and Higgy.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:01 PM

I remember the WJC's before we drafted him, watching every american game, and thinking, man oh man if the canucks found a way to trade into the top 10 to get this guy.

This guy dominated when he had good players around him like it wasn't even funny.

Give him a chance with Booth and Higgins, he can skate like the wind and he's defensivly responsible


Yea I remember he played with JVR and I think it was Kristo in 2009, and was really dominant.

He was one of those players that was noticable every time he was on the ice.

I hope he can find some chemistry on our roster and get back to being that player.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:23 PM

I know. You've gotta create a lineup based on what AV will likely do, not what we think is best.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Raymond on the second line at all.

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Booth Higgins Raymond
Kassian Lapierre Hansen
Weise Schroeder Malhotra

That's my realistic assesment of what we'll see, barring any trades.


You have the most sane lineup I've seen so far. I could see them using Malhotra for faceoffs. Also, Lapierre and Malhotra might switch depending on performances etc.

People saying we should be playing a 5'9" completely unproven prospect as our 2nd line center in a CONDENSED season where every single win counts are dreaming. We can't afford that risk if we want to have any success this year, I'm fine with him slotting into the 4th line.

Personally, I'd prefer we just got Arnott for a year. He could be the 2nd line center while Kesler is gone then be a very good 3rd line center for us later. I'm pretty uncomfortable with our center depth overall right now--I guess we'll see how the Canucks respond with no Kesler.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:25 PM

De Niro,realistically speaking, Schroeder and Kassian don't play with the Canucks except for a few pre-games and maybe one or two games to give them some future incentive to do a better job in the AHL.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:26 PM

I remember the WJC's before we drafted him, watching every american game, and thinking, man oh man if the canucks found a way to trade into the top 10 to get this guy.

This guy dominated when he had good players around him like it wasn't even funny.

Give him a chance with Booth and Higgins, he can skate like the wind and he's defensivly responsible


I remember saying that about about Todd Harvey
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:33 PM

De Niro,realistically speaking, Schroeder and Kassian don't play with the Canucks except for a few pre-games and maybe one or two games to give them some future incentive to do a better job in the AHL.


I don't see that happening. AV likes the size that Kassian brings. He doesn't want his teams getting pushed around anymore. Four years in a row is enough.

If it comes down to Schroeder or Ebbett, Schroeder brings more to the table. If the Canucks don't want to use Schroeder, they at least have to boost his value for a trade. The only way to do that is to play him.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:37 PM

I remember saying that about about Todd Harvey


Yea? You remember a player being dominant 20 years ago?

So are you saying that somehow means Schroeder will be a bust?

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:45 PM

I don't see that happening. AV likes the size that Kassian brings. He doesn't want his teams getting pushed around anymore. Four years in a row is enough.

If it comes down to Schroeder or Ebbett, Schroeder brings more to the table. If the Canucks don't want to use Schroeder, they at least have to boost his value for a trade. The only way to do that is to play him.


True,but he will play more in the A.
Ebbett is a veteran and brings maturity and confidence and situational experience to the table-a few hundred NHL games of experience,if I recall.
Pinizzotto ,Volpatti,Weisse and Ebbett or Malholtra on the third/fourth.
This is going to be a tough,condensed season.
As you say,if they can secure another banafide second line winger from the Luongo deal they might do that if Higgins works out.
This is going to be a veteran team,as always,and this is the condensed version so no twenty games of look and see.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:46 PM

I actually wouldn't mind seeing Ebbett given some sort of a chance. Obviously not on the 2nd line, but he HAS scored a few goals in the NHL before, and he's been quite good in the very few games he's played for the Canucks. He had timely goals and seemed to put a quality effort on the ice every shift, and is in his prime.

The problem is we have all these low end centers right now (or in Schroeder's case, unproven), and nobody is clearly our bonified 3rd line center that can step in as 2nd when Kesler goes down. Lapierre is decent as our 3rd center, but let's face it, he's a bit of a band aid. He's a 4th line player that can play 3rd line, not a 3rd line player that can play 2nd line.

The only guy I can really see now filling in as 2nd line center is Higgins.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:56 PM

Yea? You remember a player being dominant 20 years ago?

So are you saying that somehow means Schroeder will be a bust?


I'm saying world jr success for midgets doesn't translate into professional success for midgets.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:01 PM

There's a huge upside that I can see if Schroeder gets to center the likes of Hansen and Raymond.

They all have wheels that can cause absolute havoc on teams Defense. Speed kills and this line will burn holes in the opponent's socks. But Schroeder would legitimately be playing with wingers who have some finish. Hansen had a career high in goals when he had a playmaking center in Hodgson. Schroeder has slick hands and is no slouch as a playmaker if not better than Hodgson. Raymond will finally benefit from having a passer finally. He did fairly well when playing briefly with Hodgson but couldn't respark that chemistry with Kesler who has the ability to be very selfish with the puck. Raymond-Schroeder-Hansen sounds mightly tasty at the moment.

Yes Schroeder isn't the ideal third line center and more likely will play the second line since Kesler's out...but Schroeder's defensive game has improved although his plus minus speak otherwise, but he has taken steps towards it. His speed and ability to stick with the game is a bigger advantage that Hodgson didn't have where his skating couldn't match top line speed. Schroeder isn't physical but he knows how to finish his checks and with a low center of gravity and solid core, he has power to deliver not bone crushing hits but solid checks. He could redefine his game like Nathan Gerbe had to do who is 5"5 and 175 lbs which is similar to Schroeder. Gerbe was able to change from an offensive juggernaut in Boston College to a fiesty checking player who scored 30+ points last year while playing the Wing/Center for the Sabres in the bottom six.

Schroeder has the ability to do that too, but I much rather see him put his offensive skill to good use.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:17 PM

I'm saying world jr success for midgets doesn't translate into professional success for midgets.


Seems to me that Brandon Reid led in points at the wjc before we drafted him. Now if that was going on with todays internet, that guy would have been super hyped also.
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