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#271 Canucks_fo_life

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 04:30 PM

There is no way the Canucks shouldn't stomp a mudhole in the flames behinds tomorrow, with or without injuries. Canucks always have injuries and still own the division, 5 years and running. calgary is a mess, dunno how fans put up with that garbage year after year,
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Posted 08 February 2013 - 05:57 PM

Backlund's out 4-6 weeks....

He was flying out there too. Sucks for him
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Johnny Gaudreau>any Casucks

Edler, Markstrom, Hansen, 2nd round pick 2014 to Islanders for Ryan Strome, 5th overall pick 2014

This is fairly even as well.

 


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Posted 08 February 2013 - 06:11 PM

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#Flames FYI: Leland Irving will start in net tomorrow. His 1st #NHL win came in Vancouver on Dec. 23, 2011 when he stopped 29 of 30 shots.
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#274 tera_ha

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 07:50 PM

Anyways, hoping for a good game. I won't mind if Calgary losses by giving their best. :)

good luck Nucks B)
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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:05 PM

I feel like in recent years, the 'Nucks have killed the Flames more than usual.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 10:23 AM

I feel like in recent years, the 'Nucks have killed the Flames more than usual.


I would say the Canucks power play has killed the Flames. 5 on 5 it's been close. Last season you would constantly see the nucks make kipper move side to side.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 10:38 PM

Well we'll see how trolls show up here on Sat. night after the injury ridden Flames school the underachieving regulars / veterans of the canucks!


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 12:12 AM

Different goalie, same old story for the Flames

Irving, like Kiprusoff usually does, played well in this game and made some incredible saves. But what is a goalie to do when the defensive play of the team keeps hanging him out to dry?
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 12:21 AM

Man, if not for a couple of absolute steals by Irving, and Hansen having hands of stone, this could have been more like 8-1.

I couldn't believe how many times Calgary turned it over at their own blueline. It's not like they have any major injuries on D...
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 12:27 AM

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:43 AM

Easily one of the worst games this year. Couldn't generate anything against the Canucks. Irving played well but was hung our dry most of the night. Street needs more icetime
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Edler, Markstrom, Hansen, 2nd round pick 2014 to Islanders for Ryan Strome, 5th overall pick 2014

This is fairly even as well.

 


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:53 AM

Last nights game was one of those ones where I was starting to get worried that Calgary was going to get all the bounces like they did in the 1st.

Good thing the bounces stopped going Calgary's way after the 1st.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:54 AM

Easily one of the worst games this year. Couldn't generate anything against the Canucks. Irving played well but was hung our dry most of the night. Street needs more icetime


Understandable IMO. Lot's of injuries for your guys last night. I thought they held in there pretty good(mostly cuz of Irving) until midway through the 2nd. Then it started clicking for the Nucks.

You weren't at the game last night, were you Sven?? That wasn't your Flames jersey thrown onto the ice was it? ;)
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:12 PM

http://forum.calgary...ad.php?t=124553

Check out the gems flames fans were throwing around in this game thread last night, so funny. Waah waaah Jim Hughson is a Canucks fan cant stand him hahahah love it
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:47 AM

http://forum.calgary...ad.php?t=124553

Check out the gems flames fans were throwing around in this game thread last night, so funny. Waah waaah Jim Hughson is a Canucks fan cant stand him hahahah love it


I just read all 56 pages of the GDT and it was a joke. I thought CDC was bad. Calgary Puck is 100 times worse than our board. These are supposed to be the Flames die hard fans and all they do is rip their team.

They rip on everything. CBC is anti-Flame... Hughson is a homer... Refs cost us the game... Canucks are cheaters, divers, whiners... Oh, wait... I guess that does kind of sound like CDC after a loss.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:53 AM

Calgary Flames management has a destroyed a once proud franchise.
The flames have only 2 first round drafts on their current squad = terrible drafting.

The flames have demonstrated catatstrophic asset management by retaining contracts like Kipper and Iggy till end date. This gets them no return as they lose these players as UFA's.

Calgary is the most poorly run hockey club in the NHL.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:14 PM

Calgary Flames management has a destroyed a once proud franchise.
The flames have only 2 first round drafts on their current squad = terrible drafting.

The flames have demonstrated catatstrophic asset management by retaining contracts like Kipper and Iggy till end date. This gets them no return as they lose these players as UFA's.

Calgary is the most poorly run hockey club in the NHL.


I agree, and they'll continue to remain poorly run becuase people keep paying money to see a poor team. Why would you change when you have blind sheep following your cheap product on the ice. Sutter ruined this club for years to come. He sold ownership on his methods and ownership like fools listened.You're right this team is done for for many years to come. Too bad, I can't even hate this team properl any more. I just feel sympathy for their fans nothing more.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:16 PM

Easily one of the worst games this year. Couldn't generate anything against the Canucks. Irving played well but was hung our dry most of the night. Street needs more icetime


Actually the Flames were dominated by a far superior team in the Canucks.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:18 PM

lol, would you stop cheering for the canucks once the Sedins retire and are not as good? most likely

Nobody bandwagons harder than canucks fans.

Edited by Sven Baertschi, 11 February 2013 - 12:19 PM.

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Edler, Markstrom, Hansen, 2nd round pick 2014 to Islanders for Ryan Strome, 5th overall pick 2014

This is fairly even as well.

 


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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:29 PM

Calgary Flames management has a destroyed a once proud franchise.
The flames have only 2 first round drafts on their current squad = terrible drafting.

The flames have demonstrated catatstrophic asset management by retaining contracts like Kipper and Iggy  till end date. This gets them no  return as they lose these players as UFA's.

Calgary is the most poorly run hockey club in the NHL.


Yup, pretty much.

They very rarely seem to get fair value for their assets. Look at their draft record:

1999 - This draft produced Oleg Saprykin and Craig Anderson. Saprykin was part of the Daymond Langkow trade. But Craig Anderson was not signed, and allowed to re-enter the draft.

2000 - Although Brent Krahn at #9 was a bust, the Flames maanged to draft 3 legitimate NHL-ers this draft (Kurtis Foster, Jarret Stoll, and Travis Moen). But they didn't get anything out of it. Foster was flipped with Jeff Cowen for Petr Buzek. Stoll wasn't signed, and re-entered the draft. Moen wasn't signed either, and left as a free agent.

2001 - Kobasew may have been drafted high, but he was a decent top-6 player. But they traded him for Primeau and Stuart, and then let Stuart walk via free agency. David Moss was a great pick-up for the 7th round, but again, eventually walked.

2002 - Nystrom was picked too high, but was at the very least a solid bottom-6 guy. But he walked as a UFA. Lombardi was a very good player (before his injury problems), but was packaged in the trade for Jokinen (who was underwhelming, and walked as a free agent).

2003 - Say what you will about Phaneuf, he was once an insanely valuable piece. Calgary hung on to him too long, and when they did finally trade him, they got nothing valuable in return. Sutter made it even worse by giving Stajan that ridiculous extension. The rest of the draft came up empty.

2004 - Even though Chucko was a bust, Calgary still got 3 more NHL-ers in this draft - Brandon Prust, Dustin Boyd, and Adam Pardy. Prust was also part of the aforementioned Jokinen trade. Pardy walked as a free agent. At least they got a 4th rounder for Boyd.

2005 - Eight picks this draft - none panned out.

2006 - Eight more picks, only one who may pan out is Leland Irving...but jury is still out.


So not only has Calgary produced few NHL-ers from their drafts, when they have, they have let them go without getting any value for them.

Contrast that with Vancouver, who certainly have had their share of draft mis-steps. But still, between 1999 and 2006, we have produced the Sedins, Bieksa, Kesler, Edler, Hansen and Raymond - all of which are key players on the team. (Also likely would have 1 more, if not for the Bourdon tragedy.)

There are very few teams out there who have had as poor asset management as the Calgary Flames. The only reason they have maintained respectability is from riding the coattails of two fantastic trades: Iginla and Kiprusoff. But then again, that supposed respectability has fooled them into putting off a long-needed rebuild, so that has been almost a negative for them.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:36 PM

lol, would you stop cheering for the canucks once the Sedins retire and are not as good? most likely

Nobody bandwagons harder than canucks fans.


Funny you say that when we've never won a championship. And FYI, been a fan through some of the darkest times in this franchises history. But you keep painting us all with the same brush there Sven....you must be one of the best contributers on CP!! ;) Yah, I read a few pages of the GDT...and wow...I really thought CDC was bad. That was seriously mind boggling the amount if hate and vitriol being spewed by those users...I ended up laughing pretty hard by like page 5.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 04:10 PM

Flames' drafting was atrocious until the last few years. Everyone knows that so no sure why you bothered to write all that :lol:

Anyways, Sutters are gone. Ken King won't go anywhere anytime soon so that's that. Feaster and Weisbrod have completely turned the drafting around. So there is absolutely zero point in basing Calgary's future on what it has done 10 years ago when the personnels are different.

Edited by Sven Baertschi, 11 February 2013 - 04:11 PM.

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Edler, Markstrom, Hansen, 2nd round pick 2014 to Islanders for Ryan Strome, 5th overall pick 2014

This is fairly even as well.

 


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Posted 11 February 2013 - 04:22 PM

Flames keep chasing the dream of a 8th or 9th place season finish instead of retooling their team to make a legitimate contender.

Very shortsighted and this shows the lack of sophistication of the average flames fan that they don't call out management on this.

Edited by ronsmith, 11 February 2013 - 04:51 PM.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 04:36 PM

lol, would you stop cheering for the canucks once the Sedins retire and are not as good? most likely

Nobody bandwagons harder than canucks fans.


We have nothing to "bandwagon" about, Sven! Canuck's fans are starved to do some "real bandwagoning"! What have the club ever won? A couple of President's Trophies... A couple of Conference Championships / Campbell Bowls... A few individual awards... The Canuck's have won squat!

Could you imagine what these boards would be like if the Canucks actually brought the mug home? Canuck's fans never stop cheering. We whinge and moan frequently, but, what fan base doesn't? And after reading the entire 56 page GDT diatribe at CP after the shellacking of the Flames on Friday, the Flame's bandwagon only has a cowboy, a roughneck and a displaced American business exec left on it. Talk about "bandwagon" fans!
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:07 PM

. Feaster and Weisbrod have completely turned the drafting around.


There's no way you can make that assumption so early on.

By the time those draft picks have a chance to play in the NHL, there's a good chance that Feaster and his cronies will be sent packing anyway.

It's obvious that team management doesn't give a crap about their fans, or they would have actually made some moves when the Flames were a few points out of a playoff spot.

Other GMs at trade deadline : Try to make deal to improve team.

Jay Feaster at trade deadline : Extend Tim Jackman's contract.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:14 PM

Flames' drafting was atrocious until the last few years. Everyone knows that so no sure why you bothered to write all that :lol:

Anyways, Sutters are gone. Ken King won't go anywhere anytime soon so that's that. Feaster and Weisbrod have completely turned the drafting around. So there is absolutely zero point in basing Calgary's future on what it has done 10 years ago when the personnels are different.

How has Feaster turned the drafting around when he traded the pick that turned into Mikhail Grigorenko for Mark Jankowski?

Mark Jankowski. :lol:
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:19 PM

Flames' drafting was atrocious until the last few years. Everyone knows that so no sure why you bothered to write all that :lol:



I didn't know a lot of that, so I appreciate it being posted here.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:59 PM

Sometimes I can't help but feel sorry for the Flames. They don't have much luck in the shootout and their GM refuses to rebuild, even though it is the obvious thing to do...
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:40 PM

How has Feaster turned the drafting around when he traded the pick that turned into Mikhail Grigorenko for Mark Jankowski?

Mark Jankowski. :lol:

now you just sound dumb since Grigorenko was picked 2 picks before we could

nice try
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Edler, Markstrom, Hansen, 2nd round pick 2014 to Islanders for Ryan Strome, 5th overall pick 2014

This is fairly even as well.

 


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Posted 12 February 2013 - 12:03 AM

now you just sound dumb since Grigorenko was picked 2 picks before we could

nice try


I think he's confusing Grigorenko with Girgensons, who is cutting his teeth as a pro in the AHL right now.

As for Jankowski, I don't know what to think of that pick. A 1st round pick in the NHL entry draft out of high school?

It's like drafting someone out of Junior B level hockey...it's difficult to assess talent at such a low amateur level.

It's one thing to take a chance on raw talent....completely another to burn a 1st round pick on a longshot like Jankowski.

The Flames were seemingly more hyped up on the kid than anyone else, so I am sure they could have had his rights for much less via trade.
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