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Posted 09 January 2013 - 06:09 PM

Donald Trump's daddy left him $400M when he died. I love how he always tries to come across as some sort of genius businessperson.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 06:17 PM

Donald Trump's daddy left him $400M when he died. I love how he always tries to come across as some sort of genius businessperson.


Forbes has him listed at a net worth of 3.1 billion - http://www.forbes.co.../donald-trump/. Pretty good for someone who in his lifetime increased his assets 8-fold.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 06:18 PM

Donald Trump's daddy left him $400M when he died. I love how he always tries to come across as some sort of genius businessperson.


He definitely got a head start but he's turned that into close to 3 billion dollars so he's done pretty well for himself
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 06:28 PM

He definitely got a head start but he's turned that into close to 3 billion dollars so he's done pretty well for himself


People do realize that money grows over time right?..Plus when you have that much money you can afford to trial and errors, I'm sure he f'd up majorly a few dozen times a long the process.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 06:30 PM

You are aware that Maher is a multimillionaire, right? You are aware that Maher hasn't responded, much less declined to pay up, right? You are aware that it was a joke, right?

No, of course it wasn't a joke. Because everyone knows when you challenge someone to do a ridiculously easy thing for a ridiculous amount of money, it's for real.


Guess what people? That was the whole joke!
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 06:50 PM

If you haven't, read Cracked Article of the 10 Most Ridiculous Stories about Donald Trump. It's hilarious.

Edited by coleman26, 09 January 2013 - 06:53 PM.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:00 PM

^^ HAHA :lol:
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:00 PM

No, of course it wasn't a joke. Because everyone knows when you challenge someone to do a ridiculously easy thing for a ridiculous amount of money, it's for real.


I'm not trying to pick on you, I just wanted to revisit this comment.

From a legal standpoint, Trump could have Maher. Because Maher made the offer, and it was clearly meant in opposition of Trumps very real offer, it can be assumed by a reasonable person that he was trying to show up Trump how Trump tried to show up Obama. However, by taking it absolutely seriously, if Trump can prove that a) the offer was never taken off the table and b- that he truly believed that Maher was making a legitimate offer, as his offer to Obama was legitimate, then it could be argued that Maher made a legitimate proposal to Trump. If Maher didn't go out of his way to say that he was joking, and he was mimicking Trump's offer, then Trump has every reason to believe that he's made a legitimate offer, if an ill-advised one. Like I said, don't care for Trump, I just don't think it's an alright thing to joke about, and if you are going to joke about it, you should make it plainly obvious, and maybe consider the quality of your material, because if you can't think up a better way to make the joke that Donald Trump looks like an Orangutan (and it's actually such a shockingly good comparison that I'm upset I didn't think of it first) then you probably shouldn't be working in comedy.

I'm curious to see how it unfolds, but understand that Trump is also exactly the kind of jackass who won't let Maher get away with this. At this point, it's not about whether Trump has a legitimate case, or whether Maher was joking or not. Because the person taking this intensely serious is Donald Trump, it's going to be a big deal, and Maher is not going to look good after it. Because Trump is a loudmouth prick.

Edited by coleman26, 09 January 2013 - 07:01 PM.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:02 PM

Forbes has him listed at a net worth of 3.1 billion - http://www.forbes.co.../donald-trump/. Pretty good for someone who in his lifetime increased his assets 8-fold.


My Daddy gave me $10 and a suitcase and wished my luck .. my net worth is well over 40,000 times that .. Trump is a douche ..
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:03 PM

I'm not a big fan of Trump as he gives right of centre a bad name. That being said, he is correct that now Bill Mahar has to "put up or shut up". 5 million is a lot of money, but he can easily just say he's not as wealthy as Trump and hold some charity event to raise funds and declare that Donald Trump match the total amount raised or something.

A little note: Anyone find it tiring that many comedians, actors, celebrities or whoever can say pretty much anything and whenever there's a backlash, they just do the whole "it's just a joke" routine?
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:12 PM

I'm not a big fan of Trump as he gives right of centre a bad name. That being said, he is correct that now Bill Mahar has to "put up or shut up". 5 million is a lot of money, but he can easily just say he's not as wealthy as Trump and hold some charity event to raise funds and declare that Donald Trump match the total amount raised or something.

A little note: Anyone find it tiring that many comedians, actors, celebrities or whoever can say pretty much anything and whenever there's a backlash, they just do the whole "it's just a joke" routine?


Have you seen any proof as to Trump's paternity?? .. proof is in the pudding .. :lol:
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:16 PM

Oh, and finally, I want to say that I'm not arguing that Trump has a legal case that is somehow airtight because he doesn't understand jokes. I'm sure Donald Trump understood that Maher was mocking him, it would be beyond daft to assume anything otherwise, because as you said, it was such an easy thing to prove and a fairly obvious parody of Trump's also ridiculous offer.

All I'm saying is, Trump is going to milk this for all it's worth. And Maher can only win if he pays out now. Because if he goes and says it was a joke, Trump will play a card similar to what I was saying and then it's all over the news. And Trump will win. Maybe not in court. He might lose there. But he will win because it will make Bill Maher look like an arsehole. And Trump will probably try and buy a little face by making the donations if Bill doesn't. I'm not dumb enough to realize that this is anything but a play on Trumps part. I'm just of the opinion that Maher left himself wide open to get hit here, and he has no one to blame but himself.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:25 PM

I hate Maher, he's an igonrant, cocky SOB.

I hope Trump demands that 5m lol.

Also one more thing, whi is it ok making monkey reference to Trump or Bush, but if its toward a black person or Obama its gets national outrage.

double standards in the liberal media.

You really don't know "whi"? Shows a lot of ignorance on your part.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:27 PM

Eh, honestly, I'm on Trumps side, which feels foreign and weird. Maher had no reason to call him out, and by making such an outrageous public remark, he's on the hook. Maybe not for the 5m. I doubt Bill Maher has 5m to donate to charity. But he's going to look bad by backing out of a charity pledge, even if he claims it was an obvious parody. If you don't believe me, look at the backlash that Penny Arcade sent Jack Thompson's way when he said he would make a donation then backed out. Of course, no one is especially fond of Jack Thompson to begin with, but I don't know who is championing Bill Maher in any popularity contests.

So yeah. Trump is and will always be a doofus. But if someone said that to me on National TV, I'd put the ball back into his court and make him the chump, which is exactly what Trump has done now. Why would you sit by and take that when you COULD serve someone their ass publicly? Maher will go down like a villain, and if Trump is smart, he'll donate something to all 5 charities and look like a prince for doing so. Lord knows dude could use some image rehab.


I hate myself for doing so, but I'm also on Trump's side on this one. Not that I like either of these clowns...

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:28 PM

^^ HAHA :lol:


You really need to get Cable .. :P
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:28 PM

It's not something that feels good.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:28 PM

He said he wanted proof that he wasn't the spawn of his mother having sex with an orangutan. How is that not a joke? Shocks me that some people are saying Maher needs to give him 5 million dollars. You can't possibly be that dense, can you? Just because you are a republican, does not mean that you have to automatically side with Trump here. Side with who is correct. We should all be united and laughing at Trump.

What's wrong with politics in the USA today is that people pick a side and follow blindly without thinking.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:28 PM

I hate myself for doing so, but I'm also on Trump's side on this one.


Trump has to prove paternity first .. maybe he can pay to get his Daddy exhumed? ..
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:44 PM

I'm not trying to pick on you, I just wanted to revisit this comment.

From a legal standpoint, Trump could have Maher. Because Maher made the offer, and it was clearly meant in opposition of Trumps very real offer, it can be assumed by a reasonable person that he was trying to show up Trump how Trump tried to show up Obama. However, by taking it absolutely seriously, if Trump can prove that a) the offer was never taken off the table and b- that he truly believed that Maher was making a legitimate offer, as his offer to Obama was legitimate, then it could be argued that Maher made a legitimate proposal to Trump. If Maher didn't go out of his way to say that he was joking, and he was mimicking Trump's offer, then Trump has every reason to believe that he's made a legitimate offer, if an ill-advised one. Like I said, don't care for Trump, I just don't think it's an alright thing to joke about, and if you are going to joke about it, you should make it plainly obvious, and maybe consider the quality of your material, because if you can't think up a better way to make the joke that Donald Trump looks like an Orangutan (and it's actually such a shockingly good comparison that I'm upset I didn't think of it first) then you probably shouldn't be working in comedy.

I'm curious to see how it unfolds, but understand that Trump is also exactly the kind of jackass who won't let Maher get away with this. At this point, it's not about whether Trump has a legitimate case, or whether Maher was joking or not. Because the person taking this intensely serious is Donald Trump, it's going to be a big deal, and Maher is not going to look good after it. Because Trump is a loudmouth prick.

From a legal standpoint?

Enforcing such a contract would be on the order of slim and none IMHO... and slim has long since left the building.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:52 PM

Nah

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:55 PM

Again, I didn't say it'd hold up in court. I'm saying Trump can take him to court on it, and then Maher looks like a villain in, let's say, maybe 40% of peoples eyes? And Maher doesn't have the name recognition to get into a circus with Trump. It's hardly an ironclad case. But it's ground to get it into court, and that is all kinds of bad for Bill Maher.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:02 PM

Again, I didn't say it'd hold up in court. I'm saying Trump can take him to court on it, and then Maher looks like a villain in, let's say, maybe 40% of peoples eyes? And Maher doesn't have the name recognition to get into a circus with Trump. It's hardly an ironclad case. But it's ground to get it into court, and that is all kinds of bad for Bill Maher.


Bill needs the rating spurt .. his new season starts soon, hence the mocking of the Monkey Man ..
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:14 PM

Again, I didn't say it'd hold up in court. I'm saying Trump can take him to court on it, and then Maher looks like a villain in, let's say, maybe 40% of peoples eyes? And Maher doesn't have the name recognition to get into a circus with Trump. It's hardly an ironclad case. But it's ground to get it into court, and that is all kinds of bad for Bill Maher.

Donald Trump tries to sue Bill Maher for not paying up on a joke he made on a talk show, and Maher would look bad out of it? Trump would look like a completely idiot (if he could look any more like one).
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:37 PM

Again, I didn't say it'd hold up in court. I'm saying Trump can take him to court on it, and then Maher looks like a villain in, let's say, maybe 40% of peoples eyes? And Maher doesn't have the name recognition to get into a circus with Trump. It's hardly an ironclad case. But it's ground to get it into court, and that is all kinds of bad for Bill Maher.

You can file a lawsuit over pretty much anything but unless it has some legal merit the next step is for the defendant to file a motion to dismiss.

The usual grounds would be that the filed pleadings/petition/statement of claim. etc. discloses no reasonable claim or that the proceedings are "unnecessary, scandalous, frivolous or vexatious" and/or an abuse of the court's process. For example see the BC Rules of Court: Rule 9-5 — Striking Pleadings (other jurisidictions have similar rules):
http://www.bclaws.ca..._01.xml#rule9-5

I am baffled how Bill Maher would appear as a "villain" given that Donald Trump would look like a doofus for making what appears to be a totally baseless claim wasting the time of the court.

We saw this recently when former Cabinet Minister sued Prime Minister Harper and others making claims of conspiracy, defamation, misfeasance in public office, negligence and infliction of mental suffering. Harper brought a motion to dismiss:

Prime Minister Stephen Harper filed a motion in court Friday to get Helena Guergis's "frivolous" lawsuit against him dismissed.


"The action is frivolous, vexatious and an abuse of process and accordingly should be stayed or dismissed," the court document obtained by CBC News says.

http://www.cbc.ca/ne...is-lawsuit.html


The judge agreed and dismissed the lawsuit:

As reported earlier today, former Conservative MP Helena Guergis' lawsuit against the prime minister, various senior PMO officials, her former lawyer and the Conservative Party itself has been dismissed by an Ontario court judge, although according to the latest update, she plans to appeal.

http://www.cbc.ca/ne...e-pm-et-al.html

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:00 PM

It won't matter to some that the lawsuit would be frivolous, all that matters, to some people, is that Maher welched on an offer to give money to charity. It doesn't have to be reasonable, because not everyone is reasonable. I'm saying, Maher opened himself up, and if he doesn't pay, it's going to cost him in the long run, because no matter what, some people are only going to hear that the millionaire TV show host pledged a little of his many millions to charity, and then said it was a joke.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:08 PM

It won't matter to some that the lawsuit would be frivolous, all that matters, to some people, is that Maher welched on an offer to give money to charity. It doesn't have to be reasonable, because not everyone is reasonable. I'm saying, Maher opened himself up, and if he doesn't pay, it's going to cost him in the long run, because no matter what, some people are only going to hear that the millionaire TV show host pledged a little of his many millions to charity, and then said it was a joke.


I agree that unless Maher planned to pay it was a misstep on his part; however, nobody that watches his show will have taken seriously what he said. He won't lose much, if at all. And Trump still looks like an idiot. And so does everyone who thinks Maher should pay 5 million dollars for a poor joke.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:11 PM

It won't matter to some that the lawsuit would be frivolous, all that matters, to some people, is that Maher welched on an offer to give money to charity. It doesn't have to be reasonable, because not everyone is reasonable. I'm saying, Maher opened himself up, and if he doesn't pay, it's going to cost him in the long run, because no matter what, some people are only going to hear that the millionaire TV show host pledged a little of his many millions to charity, and then said it was a joke.

I simply do not see anything for Maher to be concerned about.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:23 PM

I simply do not see anything for Maher to be concerned about.


Nor I .. it is win/win .. an aggressive Trump, on ANY matter, immediately alienates 60% of Americana aware of his douchery .. and Bill shrugs his shoulders and makes an extra $5 mil on his next HBO contracts .. AND, Bill gets to write the three Trump jokes Barry gets to deliver at the Presser later this winter .. you know .. the Presser where Barry made fun of Trump in his face while that Delta team was taking out Osama .. :)
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:23 PM

My Daddy gave me $10 and a suitcase and wished my luck .. my net worth is well over 40,000 times that .. Trump is a douche ..


Made me laugh lol
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:24 PM

Made me laugh lol


Am glad you laughed .. a sense of humor is absolutely key to staying young .. lol
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