Did the possible Lu trade cost burke his job?
Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:46 PM
Burke is done... Well if you ask me, you can look at this two ways:
A: The deal was in place and was about to be final and the owners thought Burke was giving up to much and selling the farm to get luongo, soooo they axed him.
B: They really want luongo and felt burke was not going to get the job done.
I believe it is case number one. If you look at the press conference the new GM Dave Nonis talks about how making a bunch a trades wont fix a struggling team. I think they were just sick of Burkes dumb trades and want to go in another direction, like grow the team from within with good picks and key trades (not big splash deals like the Lu trade.)
Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:50 PM
also perhaps his vision and the owner's did not match
Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:58 PM
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Edited by ER15, 09 January 2013 - 09:23 PM.
Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:25 PM
I do believe Lu will go to Toronto and the Nucks will get something good in return, however that is only one piece of this puzzle. Many people are suggesting that this was lined up before the Lockout started, but as new ownership did not take over until late August it wasn't in there best interest to re leave Burke until they new for sure a season was being played.
You can cut this pie a thousand ways and it still doesn't add up. There are some missing pieces that will be uncovered and some that won't we will just have to wait and see.
Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:29 PM
Edited by Jägermeister, 09 January 2013 - 09:35 PM.
Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:29 PM
Edited by Left Ventricle, 09 January 2013 - 09:35 PM.
Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:45 PM
I've heard Burke didn't want Luongo and the rest of the management in TO does.
I heard there was a bunny that craps chocolate eggs.
Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:46 PM
Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:47 PM
Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:48 PM
I bet he was about to overpay sooooo much for Lu that the Toronto brass had to fire him. Not likely.
He hates Lu type contracts...no way he was willing to overpay. Some analysts are saying board of governors wanted Lu and Burke didnt.
Are you CRAZY??? Trade Green for ONE first round pick?? He's restricted after this season.... He WILL get an offer sheet for 7-8 million from a number of teams regardless if he plays another minute for us or not. That offer sheet would be worth 4 first round draft choices.
Some fans overrate their players, and then there is this guy.
Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:59 PM
Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:03 PM
Wasn't it Nonis who traded for Luongo in 2006? Hopefully history repeats itself.
Hopefully we'll get a better return than Florida did......
Future Canucks top 6:
Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:17 PM
Burke has stated, numerous times, he does not like front loaded, long lasting contracts. |
But this is all pure speculation and opinion, just like all the other garbage read on TSN and Sportsnet. Nothing is true until a trade is done.
These sports websites generate traffic by creating rumours, especially rumours about potentially the biggest trade piece on the market currently. Why would they do such a thing? Because they can, nobody can trace anything to anyone since it's from "confidential sources".
Personally I'm disappointed even the Province newspaper has jumped on the trade bandwagon (what great columnists to write about trading a star goalie :/), and if Gillis doesn't trade Luo, it's for the best considering the condensed season.
Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:22 PM
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:38 PM
Edited by MoneypuckOverlord, 09 January 2013 - 10:40 PM.
Players Nikolaj Ehlers have been compared too by the fan base of the Vancouver Canucks.
1 Pavel Bure
2 Markus Naslund
3 Nathan Mackkinon
4 Jonathan Drouin.
5 Jonathan Tavares
combine results. Ehlers 5'11 162 lbs of solid rock.
Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:07 PM
not a chance. Toronto really didn't have anything decent to offer up, but a bunch of 3rd line plugs and bottom 6 defencemens. He was just a bad gm. Look at the team record during the 4 years he was here. Luongo trade had nothing to do with it. What's funny is he's replaced with Nonis.
I ment it in a way "like the straw that broke the cammels back".... I know he has done very poorly in Toronto.
Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:24 PM
As far as TO, Luongo can put the Leafs in the playoffs for the 1st time in 9 years, that is why they want him.....making the playoffs is worth huge dollars and that is all that matters. The owner is probaly putting Nonis in to get the deal done even at a slight cost to the future. All those playoff dollars make a top prospect like Gardiner expendable.
Edited by bluesman60, 09 January 2013 - 11:26 PM.
Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:43 PM
I'm skeptical of this rumour, but seeing as how someone else just commented on the same rumour I'd say it's a SMALL possibility. I watched on TSN also that MLSE wanted a more "democratic" GM and claimed that Burke was running a "dictatorship" over the management. Maybe his dictator-like style shown with this Luongo deal was the last straw?
All speculation, but it's still worth trying to unravel the reasoning behind this incredibly strange timing.
Edited by KoreanHockeyFan, 09 January 2013 - 11:44 PM.
Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:53 PM
Luongo is just the latest in a looooooong list of players that 'could've gone to TO.'
This was all about Rogers/Bell and how they thought of Burke. Burke had multiple run-ins with the media there. He banned some. He made himself hard to deal with for others. And he was generally disliked by multiple Rogers/Bell people. So what do you think two corporate media giants would think of that?
Totally not a hockey move. Sorry Strombone1, but having a rule named after you is enough. You don't control the destinies of GM's around the league,
Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:55 PM
Likely their board needed all this time to make a decision, and then decided to announce it just after the lockout's end.
Again, not a good hockey move.
MLSE = FAIL
Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:59 PM
they want luo, dave makes the deal, philadelphia also wants him gilis played it right let the bidding begin
THIS. Gardner is ours. Couterier would work too.
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