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[VIDEO] 35 Minutes of Pavel Bure: Why He Was the Most Spectacular Canuck of All Time.


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#1 WeatherWise

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:20 PM

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The following is a continuation of the "Lost Shifts" series I've been working on, featuring Pavel Bure. This is a brand new video, and the third in the series thus far. Enjoy.

As Pavel Bure’s Hockey Hall of Fame induction approached in November, hockey fans and members of the media alike were beginning to once again share their thoughts on the Russian Rocket’s style of play and his contributions to the game of hockey. Throughout these discussions, however, it became apparent that some still believe Pavel’s game was not as complete or well-rounded as I had hoped to prove.

While both of my previous videos (see “Pavel Bure: The Lost Shifts” and its sequel) may perhaps have assisted in changing some of the opinion of Pavel both online and within various hockey communities, there still exists a belief in some that he was a “cherry picker” or “one dimensional.” In discussions I’ve had recently, some have called my assertions of Pavel being reliable defensively “revisionist history,” though I will argue Pavel’s less-than-stellar reputation must only apply to his final years in Florida on a team that desperately required offense.

My prior videos focused primarily on the magic that happened whenever Pavel would touch the puck and how he could transition from a defensive play in the defensive zone to an attacking play in the offensive zone. In this video, I made sure to encompass as many aspects of Pavel’s game as I could by showcasing every defensive play and transition, as well as to demonstrate how vital he was to the team’s offense by incorporating much lengthier shifts such as on the power play. As a result, this video reflects Pavel’s ability to dominate games, his importance to the team, and the role he played throughout the games featured, as well as throughout his entire time as a Canuck.

The footage in this video is taken from three games between his rookie season (1991-92) and perhaps the greatest season of his career, 1993-94. At the end of the video, there is a goal reel centered on the skills seen throughout the video and how they were applied when Pavel scored:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=y-UARpq7ATU

Footage was taken from the following three games, randomly selected from my collection:

April 30, 1992 vs the Winnipeg Jets
March 27, 1994 vs the Los Angeles Kings
May 24, 1994 vs the Toronto Maple Leafs

Also, here are two of my older videos featuring Pavel. I shared these with everyone a while ago, but if you have not yet seen them, please enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zt5YW_GqO1c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YOCMPsv_5sQ

Now, a bit of analysis regarding the latest video:

Pavel, throughout his years in Vancouver, and especially in his earliest years, was more than just a reliable player in the defensive zone -- he was a primary contributor to the team’s defense, playing in every shorthanded situation and compensating for his teammates’ mistakes. He anticipated where the puck would be in all zones of the ice, and using his speed and natural skating ability frequently positioned himself to intercept passes, cut off the opposition’s lanes, or reach the puck before the opponent could. In mere moments, he could position himself effectively to make a difference for the Canucks. In many of the clips, he is matched against other top players such as Doug Gilmour, Wendel Clark, Phil Housley, Jarri Kurri, and even Wayne Gretzky, and it is he who draws potential penalties from them as in Housley’s case, frustrates them as in Gilmour’s case, or tracks them down defensively and generates a subsequent scoring chance of his own.

Due to his tendency to begin plays in his own zone, he was quite focused on retrieving pucks via strong defensive play, then winding up for an attack at breakneck speeds. As much as some would like to call him a “cherry picker,” his signature play was the end-to-end rush. The excitement from fans was almost always generated whenever he touched the puck in the defensive zone, as once he began to skate, he became incredibly difficult to contain.

Pavel’s anticipation in all three zones of the ice made him a threat to the opposition at all times, and his agility, speed, and acceleration allowed him to attain ideal positioning very quickly. He always had his head on a swivel in order to read his situation, and would react accordingly. He could elude players with the puck, pick up loose pucks to keep his own team’s plays alive and to cut short the opponent’s, and was always a threat to overwhelm the opponent with his combined skating ability and apt stick work. As a player hailing from the Soviet Union’s hockey program and adopting their complete team philosophy, Pavel was equipped with a great understanding of his role on the team, especially defensively, and what was required for success.

Pavel desired nothing greater than for his team to succeed, and throughout his first few years with the Canucks was tremendously passionate about the game and about his teammates. He played for them, and was a kid whose presence his teammates appreciated. One may speculate that the dark and painful relationship he had with team management might have tempered his love of the game by the time he left Vancouver in 1999, but prior to that he would stop at nothing to help his team.

The reputation that has developed for Pavel over the past decade has been an unsatisfactory and unjust one, to say the least. In Scott Morrison’s 2010 book, “Best of the Best: Ranking the Greatest Players of All Time,” Pavel is described as one who would “drift around without interest or purpose, then suddenly turn on the jets…” while E.J. Hradek in 2012 called Bure “more of an offensive guy [who] didn’t maybe come back into his zone.” Pavel’s reputation, especially regarding his time in Vancouver (a majority of his career), has been decimated by misnomers, “revisionist history,” and perhaps a lack of media coverage, televised games, or general access to them in his days with Vancouver. Whatever the case may be, it is crucial to discern the truth about Pavel’s game and, for many, to appreciate how tremendous a player he was.

Edited by WeatherWise, 14 January 2013 - 12:01 AM.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:05 PM

There is a perception of "cherry-picking" on the part of Pavel and I would agree it's unfounded.
Most of it is due to his explosiveness and ability to get ahead of the defender.
You watch game tape and see him coming in on a breakaway and wonder how did he get all the way up the ice.
The first assumption is he wasn't back-checking and simply waiting at center ice for the puck.
Often that's not the case.

Though I wouldn't say he was consistent in the defensive zone, he was by no means a cherry-picker.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:19 PM

There is a perception of "cherry-picking" on the part of Pavel and I would agree it's unfounded.
Most of it is due to his explosiveness and ability to get ahead of the defender.
You watch game tape and see him coming in on a breakaway and wonder how did he get all the way up the ice.
The first assumption is he wasn't back-checking and simply waiting at center ice for the puck.
Often that's not the case.

Though I wouldn't say he was consistent in the defensive zone, he was by no means a cherry-picker.


Agreed.

Ovechkin in his first few years was the definition of a cherry-picker.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:47 PM

For whatever reason, the video disappeared when I edited my post. I've added it again. Sorry for that. I hope you'll enjoy it!

Edited by WeatherWise, 10 January 2013 - 01:47 PM.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 02:00 PM

From what I can see from the first 6 min.. In the d zone he wasn't exactly a 'positional' player.. But in a blink of an eye.. He was right there in the guys face.. Or suddenly right in the correct passing lane to pick it off.. Been a while since I've seen a Russian player do so well at both ends of the ice(as a forward.)
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 03:35 PM

The NHL has not seen a player like Pavel Bure, nor may they ever. His two-way play was exceptional, and his speed and hands allowed him to overwhelm the opposition with an immediate counter-attack or an unstoppable rush. The crowd roared every time he had the puck, and many of the plays seen in the footage demonstrate how effective he was defensively.

For whatever reason, he has been painted as a "defensive liability" and that reputation has seemingly become accepted as reality. In truth, Pavel was as excellent a two-way player as this team has had. Time and inaccurate beliefs about his game have ruined his legacy as an incredible player who had the hockey IQ, skill set, and phenomenal skating ability to dominate the game.

Edited by WeatherWise, 10 January 2013 - 03:38 PM.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 11:21 PM

Weatherwise, hats off to you - this was a ton of work pulling all that footage together. It's beautifully done - I watched the entire thing. It was a great trip down memory lane - watching Bure night after night was such a luxury. These highlights really capture his incredible efforts, creativity and passion that he put into every shift.

I don't think of Bure as defensively lacking at all - he was responsible all-round, and was in his own category of talent. Still the greatest talent to ever wear a Canucks jersey, hands down!
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:09 AM

Awesome vid... Pavel was indeed a one of a kind and we will be lucky to see another player like him in the league in our lifetime.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 06:14 PM

Thank you for the kind words, everyone. It really is a pleasure to be able to share this with you. It was such a treat for many Canucks fans to be able to see Pavel live, and I hope this can provide everyone with a chance to relive (or experience for the first time) some of the magic he brought to Canucks games all those years ago.

Edited by WeatherWise, 11 January 2013 - 06:15 PM.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 11:56 PM

A little easter egg at the end, as well, is Pavel scoring on the Canucks in his return to GM Place as a Panther.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:42 AM

Guys, come on!

Seriously.

Pavel Bure was a really exciting and amazingly talented player, but he was by no means such a good two-way player as you guys claim.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:27 AM

No-one covered as much ice as Bure did and had such game changing impact on the the game, the fans and his team mates. Was he a two way monster? No. But he was defensively responsible and consistently potted 50+goals and multiplt 100+point seasons.

It's pretty sad when the fans have to stand up for the best Canuck ever 20 years after his reign. Says alot about the fans, the media and the organization in general. This is why we can't attract legit superstars and why we don't have a cup.

When the word cherry picker is brought up, I think of Bertuzzi. There was a guy who would sit at the blue line and hardly move his feet.

Edited by scottiecanuck, 14 January 2013 - 09:29 AM.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 11:04 PM

A little easter egg at the end, as well, is Pavel scoring on the Canucks in his return to GM Place as a Panther.

That part was painful to watch. The worst was the footage of him as a Ranger though. That just didn't feel right at all.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 01:40 PM

Ah, the memories. :sadno:
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 01:21 PM

Bure is the best Canucks player ever. I remember when he came over from Russia. In camp he benched 225 Lbs for 25 reps. His team mates were amazed at the Pavel's strenght and conditioning.

Soon after NHL changed it's game to clutch and grab because North American players couldn't keep up with Europeans. Mogilny 86g almost broke Gretzky's goal single season goals record 92g, and Sellane did break the rookie goal record with 76.

There was a grass roots movement by Hockey Canada to change the way Canadian kids were trained from a young age. Canadians went over to Russia and Scandinavia to learn training techniques employed by them.Crosby, Stamkos and company are a product of that change initiated because of Bure, Mogilny, Sellane, Jagr et all.
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